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Hi,
I am looking into purchasing the CS4 Master Suite and, of course, look for the best price since my funds are very limited. Now I found these two retailers who sell the suite for $1399 while you can purchase the suite here at Adobe for $2700. These two retailers claim that the software is 100% genuine and the full version. What is the catch? Did anybody purchase the software at one of these retailers? Their reviews are 99% positive and they are accredited BBB businesses.
I just want to be sure that I will be able to upgrade later to the next version without any problems.
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Thanks

Frank,
On behalf of Adobe, I can assure you that what is being offered you isn't "genuine."
What you
may get from these so-called retailers is either:
(1) A pirated copy of the software or even a beta test version of same with a crack to get around the activation mechanism.
(2) DVDs with a stolen license key for a volume license meant for a large, single organization.
(3) DVDs (sometimes a set of 30-day evaluation DVDs) with an educational version serial number meant for use in large educational organizations.
(4) Stolen goods.
Contrary to the claims of such websites, Adobe does
not sell so-called OEM versions of this software. Nor do they sell it in bulk packs without a box.
Unless you are getting a factory sealed box that does
not say anything about a student or educational version, you are acquiring illegal goods. And you better be careful about sealed boxes as well.
By the way, the BBB (Better Business Bureau) does not accredit any businesses.
In virtually all cases where we have heard about such bargains being offered to end-users, it turns out that the vendor is
not an authorized Adobe reseller and what is being offered is either pirated, stolen (either individual boxes or serial numbers for volume licenses), or improperly sold educational/student versions.
There is no reason for any authorized Adobe reseller to sell this software well-below their cost or even the cost to the distributor they would purchase legitimate copies from.
A deal that is too good to be true usually is!
- Dov

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Dear Sandesh,
I am writing to make a formal complaint about the way in which several members of your staff have handled a case of mine recently. For your reference, the case numbers opened by your staff members are #0212480723, #0212621543 and #0212612935. Also, find attached at the bottom of this letter two separate online conversations that I had with your staff members within 24 hours. I am frustrated to even have to quote you three separate case files seeing as each of them relate to only one case, yet for some reason, your staff members opted to open new cases each time I was in contact with them rather than add to or resolve the cases already opened on my behalf. This is a ridiculous way to run a support company that is not at all focused on the customer at all.
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Not only this, but on three separate occasions I was promised a call back and/or email response to my problems within 24 hours of getting in touch with Adobe Customer Support. This was after two of your staff members told me that my case had been ‘escalated’ to a higher department as they did not have the means to deal with and investigate my problem correctly. Needless to say, none of these responses from the higher department actually occurred otherwise I would not have had to get in touch repeatedly. I am absolutely disgusted that multiple members of your staff made these assurances to me and for NOT A SINGLE ONE of them to follow through. On the second occasion where I was assured my case had been escalated to the higher department, I repeatedly asked the support administrator what the name of the higher department is and who my contact from the department would be and the administrator totally evaded my questions, simply telling me that I would hear back within 24 hours.
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Conversation 1
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Charlotte : Hello
Biswaranjan: Hello! Welcome to Adobe Customer Service.
Biswaranjan: Hi Charlotte.
Charlotte : Hi, thanks
Biswaranjan: I am sorry for the delay.
Charlotte : That's fine. To save some time, please may I ask you to refer to the details currently held for case 212480723
Charlotte : As this support request is a continuation of this case
Biswaranjan: I will definitely help with this issue.
Biswaranjan: Please allow me 2-3 minutes while I check the case number for you.
Charlotte : No problem
Biswaranjan: Thank you.
Charlotte : Not a problem. In short, I am contacting you because in spite of my phoning Adobe Customer Support twice since the case was opened, I have yet to hear anything in response.
Charlotte : This is despite being told by the second individual that the priority of my case had been upgraded to a high level and that I would receive a phone call from the technical support team within 24-48 hours after they had done some investigation into my issue.
Charlotte : Obviously, this is very frustrating for me as it is impeding my work presently.
Charlotte : I am currently using Adobe CS4 Master Collection on a trial basis and the trial will shortly run out, which will obviously bring my work to a halt.
Charlotte : As such, I am very keen to get an answer to my issue and incredibly disappointed by Adobe Customer Support so far, as I feel like I am being misled or ignored.
Biswaranjan: I apologize for the inconvenience caused.
Charlotte : Thank you. Obviously I understand that this is not your fault personally, but it is appreciated nonetheless.
Charlotte : More importantly, of course, I just need this issue resolved ASAP
Biswaranjan: I'll be right with you.
Biswaranjan: Thank you for waiting. One moment please.
Charlotte : That's fine.
Biswaranjan: Sorry for the wait. Please do stay online.
Biswaranjan: Thank you for staying online.
Biswaranjan: I checked and see that the serial number you have provided is invalid. Since you have purchased the product from eBay.com, in this case I will suggest you to please contact the reseller to get the valid serial number.
Charlotte : I have done this already. I have already spoken with the seller at considerable length, and he has provided me with the original receipt of purchase and confirmed that he has no other serial number available.
Charlotte : Again, I have already told other members of Adobe's Customer Support this. The first support administrator assured me that by providing the original receipt of purchase (which I have already done), I would be sent a new, valid serial number by Adobe.
Charlotte : After hearing nothing from them again, the second support administrator told me that he would chase the case up to higher technicians/'investigators' who would get back to me in 24-48 hours. This was last week and I have yet to hear anything.
Biswaranjan: I'll be right with you.
Biswaranjan: Thank you for waiting. One moment please.
Biswaranjan: Sorry for the wait. Please do stay online.
Charlotte : That's not a problem. I will stay online.
Biswaranjan: Thank you for staying online.
Biswaranjan: In this case I need to escalate the issue to the higher department so that they can assist you with the issue. Is that okay with you?
Charlotte : It is okay with me, yes. However, I have already been promised this by another Customer Support advisor and I have yet to hear anything. As such, I'm sure you will understand that I am sceptical that this will resolve anything/
Charlotte : As such, I would appreciate some contact details for this department/higher advisor in the event that I need to get in touch with them
Biswaranjan: I will assure that you will get the resolution with 24 hours.
Charlotte : Okay. Regardless, please could you tell me the name of this higher department and or the advisor that I will be dealing with? Also, will I hear from them via phone or email?
Biswaranjan: Once I escalate the issue you will get the resolution via an email within 24 hours.
Charlotte : Very well. Please could you confirm this for me by updating my case file on the Adobe Support Centre accordingly with all of these details
Charlotte : Including your own details, that is
Charlotte : Just for reference for who I have spoken to about this
Biswaranjan: You will get a case number for this conversation.
Charlotte : Will this include all the information I have asked for?
Biswaranjan: You will also get the whole chat conversation.
Charlotte : Thank you very much. This is very much appreciated.
Biswaranjan: You are welcome.
Biswaranjan: Is there anything else I can help you with?
Charlotte : In which case, if in the event that I have not heard anything by 10:
Charlotte : 30am GMT tomorrow, I will phone Adobe Customer support directly
Charlotte : And quote this case number and conversation
Charlotte : No, that will be all for today, thank you very much for your help
Charlotte : I look forward to hearing a response from your higher department
Biswaranjan: It was pleasure assisting you.
Biswaranjan: You may receive an email that will contain a link to complete an optional survey to provide your feedback on the support experience. Your feedback is very much appreciated.
Biswaranjan: Thank you for contacting Adobe. We are available 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. Goodbye!
Charlotte : Thank you. Good bye
This chat session has ended.
Thank you for contacting Adobe.
Conversation 2
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Nakul: Hello! Welcome to Adobe Customer Service.
Charlotte : Hello Nakul
Nakul: Hello Charlotte
Charlotte : Please may I ask you to refer to the cases numbered stated
Nakul: Let me check on that case.
Charlotte : CaseS. Plural.
Nakul: Thank you for waiting. One moment please.
Nakul: I'll be right with you.
Charlotte : Right, well. Whilst you're investigating, I will tell you my situation.
Charlotte : I am incredibly disappointed and infuriated with Adobe Customer Service at the moment. One TWO SEPARATE OCCASSIONS I have been told that my case has been escalated to a mythical 'higher department' and that I will receive a response to my serial number issues within 24 hours
Charlotte : As you will see, my first case was opened at the end of February and it is still marked as 'Pending Adobe Response' and as of yet I have yet to hear anything of substance
Charlotte : I will state clearly right now that I DO NOT WANT YOU TO CLOSE EITHER CASE
Nakul: I understand.
Nakul: May I know where did you purchased the product?
Charlotte : And instead, I would like to know the exact NAME of this higher department and a contact number
Charlotte : You would be able to find out by checking the receipt attached to my case
Charlotte : The point is that I already know you will not be able to help me with this issue - hence why my cases have been escalated by the higher department - and so I wish to be put in touch with the higher department immediately
Charlotte : I am FED UP of running around in circles at this level and answering the same questions REPEATEDLY
Charlotte : I apologise to hit out at you personally like this, but I just want to get in touch with someone who can actually and actively HELP ME instead of making empty promises
Nakul: Sorry for the wait. Please do stay online.
Nakul: I checked and see that you have purchased the product from eBay and reseller who has sold this has purchased the serial number from TOPPER GLOBAL LIQUIDATORS INTERNATIONAL.
Charlotte : You are correct
Nakul: In this case you need to contact Ebay. As this was not direct purchase from authorized reseller.
Charlotte : This is not what I have been told before
Charlotte : This includes what I have been told by other Adobe customer support agents on Live Chat and over the phone
Nakul: No I am sorry, there was little confusion about point of purchase. As you have purchased from Ebay to need to contact Ebay if not the reseller from whom you have purchased.
Nakul: Iam sorry there are no other options.
Charlotte : And is the result of the investigation by the 'higher department'
Charlotte : Because if so, I want to know exactly WHY I have not received this already in writing from a named agent from Adobe
Charlotte : As this is what I was promised
Nakul: Yes, that is correct.
Charlotte : Forgive me if I do not trust the conclusions made by an agent at this level, after I have already been fobbed off and mislead by so many others
Charlotte : Please tell me WHY I have not received this in writing then before having to contact you again now
Charlotte : And may I just take the opportunity to point out that Adobe's customer service is without question THE WORST customer service I have ever had the mispleasure of having to endure
Nakul: I am really sorry, I truly understand your concern. You can send us the email to [email protected].
Charlotte : I will certainly do that
Charlotte : In the meantime, I request that you DO NOT CLOSE OR DELETE EITHER OF MY CASES
Charlotte : As I am firmly dissatisfied and mistrusting to the conclusion that you would have me believe
Nakul: Okay I will not close the case. You can mention the case number in the email also.
Charlotte : I have all of my previous conversations with adobe customer service agents in the past in writing, and the information you have given me directly contradicts what I have previously been told about investigations and responses
Charlotte : Furthermore I would like to point out that the serial number I have used to activate my product has come from an adobe sealed product
Charlotte : It has not been used before
Charlotte : And neither has it been fabricated
Charlotte : The box has an adobe barcode and seal and so I see no reason why Adobe cannot fulfill the promise already made to me that it would provide me with a valid serail number or a valid reason why this cannot be done
Charlotte Cartner: But regardless, I do not wish to discuss this with someone at this level
Nakul: I am sorry, as because the purchase was from Ebay we are not able to help in this issue.
Nakul: We do not support for the Ebay purchase products.
Charlotte : It's not an ebay product. It's an AUTHENTIC ADOBE PRODUCT
Charlotte : Adobe generated the serial number, so why on earth can the company not CORRECT IT
Charlotte : The serial number was ACCEPTED upon my initial activation of the product!
Charlotte : It was only AFTERWARDS that it was suddenly and magically decided that the serial number wasn't valid!
Nakul: I'll be right with you.
Nakul: I am sorry, In this chat itself you have mentioned that you have purchased from Ebay and hence you need to check with the point of purchase itself, there are no other options.
Charlotte : I have checked the point of purchase
Charlotte : But the bloody point is that the serial number was ACCEPTED, and then the activation server came back to me TWO DAYS LATER and said that 'LICENSING FOR THIS PRODUCT HAS EXPIRED'
Charlotte : Accordingly, this problem has LITERALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE POINT OF PURCHASE
Charlotte : It has to do with ADOBE
Charlotte : Do not try and rub me off onto some phony excuses to legitimise your support teams pure, ridiculous incompetence
Nakul: I am really sorry. I checked all the possibilities, there are no other options.
Charlotte : Somehow, I fail to believe this as again it DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS INFORMATION GIVEN TO ME BY OTHER CUSTOMER SUPPORT AGENTS
Charlotte : So which one should I believe? You or the first guy I spoke to, the second guy I spoke to, or the third?
Charlotte : Forgive me if I am dubious as to the validity of any claim you are making
Charlotte : You've taken the easiest conclusion to resolve this problem to your convenience
Charlotte : And by way of fact, you're totally ignoring what I'm telling you
Nakul: I am sorry for the wrong information provided by earlier agents. We do not support for the eBay orders as it is not an authorized reseller to Adobe.
Charlotte : Well, in which case, I insist on complaining about the other agents
Charlotte : I believe their names and or agent ID numbers should be marked in my case files
Nakul: Sure, you can send a complaint to [email protected].
Charlotte : I see no reason why my problem should have to be dragged out by FALSE INFORMATION provided by other agents
Charlotte : And NO. I want YOU to put me in touch with your departmental supervisor or manager
Nakul: I truly understand.
Charlotte : I will NOT ACCEPT a generic email address that bears no promise of a response or certified apology for all this aggrevating inconveneince
Charlotte : I want a NAME, a JOB TITLE, a PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS and a UK phone number for whom I can address this complaint specifically to
Charlotte : As this is totally unacceptable. #
Nakul: We have one more email that directly goes to the manager, that is [email protected].
Charlotte : And what is the managers name?
Nakul: Sandesh, you can mention his name in the subject.
Charlotte : I'll mention it in the address line, thank you
Charlotte : And what is their phone number
Charlotte : And please may I also have their last/surname?
Nakul: I am sorry, we do not have the option to provide the contact number of Managers.
Charlotte : Then at least give me a surname
Nakul: His first and last name is Sandesh Acharya.
Charlotte : Thank you. Please inform him that he will be hearing from me very soon.
Nakul: Sure, I have already informed about this. You can send the email right away.
Charlotte : Thank you
Charlotte : That will be all
Charlotte : No, there is nothing else you can help me with today
Nakul: You are welcome Charlotte.
Charlotte : Thank you and good bye. Have a good day.
Nakul: Take Care Charlotte.
Nakul: I am really really sorry for this inconvenience.
Nakul: Thank you for contacting Adobe. We are available 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. Goodbye!
Charlotte : Good bye

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- Adobe doesn't provide this as a download, so I can't download a new version. So the CS4 is my only option, I believe.
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I recently received all the install discs for CS4. Spent the last hour researching how CS3 and CS4 play together when installed on same machine at same time. I haven't found anything that addresses my questions, thus the post.
At present, not enough of my work colleagues have CS4, so if I install CS4 and uninstall CS3 - and need to pass a file on to someone who doesn't have CS4, they can't open it in CS3.
Also, I use AfterEffects with many 3rd party plugins. Until I can verify that CS4 plays nice with these plugins, I can't afford to uninstall AfterEffects CS3. Obviously, I need to keep CS3 up and running on my desktop and laptop.
But now that I have CS4 ready to install, I of course want to start using it and learning the new features.
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I trust Adobe takes these types of version overlaps seriously and plans for them since people want to try out or start using the newest version but ensure there is a sufficient overlap period before uninstalling the older versions.
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jslicer

j,
Your old apps will work. But the new versions will be the defaults. You can touch your files to the old application to launch it or launch the old application first, and then open files "normally".
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Bob

CS4 Master Collection PN 65023349 and 65023345

According to google, this has been discussed here before, but my forum searches come up empty. I am trying to understand the difference between CS4 Master Collection part numbers 65023349 and 65023345 . Except for the stickers on the bottom, the packages are identical. And even those stickers are quite similar, except for the part and UPC numbers and a line that reads "001 DV" on one box and "001 DV RET" on the other.
If someone can explain the difference, I'd appreciate it very much.
Many thanks,
Rich

There is no option to upgrade your CS4 license except to subscribe to the Creative Cloud's special first year discount plan for CS owners (Adobe: Creative, marketing, and document management solutions).
Platform swaps are only allowed for the most recent released CS software (CS6). You cannot get a Mac version license of CS4 thru Adobe since Adobe does not sell older versions and the only CS version for sale is CS6... CS4 does not qualify to get CS6 at an upgrade price.
You can purchase CS6 thru the following page: http://www.adobe.com/products/catalog/cs6._sl_id-contentfilter_sl_catalog_sl_software_sl_c reativesuite6.htm

CS4 Master Collection Won't Install

Alright...so I insert the Adobe CS4 Master Collection DVD (yes, the first disc) and the autorun comes up. I hit install and nothing happens. I see in the task manager that setup runs for anywhere from 30 seconds to a couple minutes (tried this quite a few times) and then terminates. I wanna know what's going on. I've already searched the internet for answers as well as tried everything in the Adobe KB and every related topic here on the user-to-user forums. My specs are as follows:
AMD Athlon X2 4200+ (2.2GHz/core)
4gb DDR2 1066 RAM
250gb SATA HDD
Nvidia GeForce 9800GT
Windows Vista Ultimate SP1 64-bit

If you've gone through all of that, I can only offer one more thing to
try before calling Adobe.
Create a new user account and install it there. If that doesn't do it
you're going to have to call Adobe for help...installation issues are
handled free of charge.
Bob

CS4 Master Collection/Windows 7 Broken Setup.exe

Yesterday I made the jump from Windows Vista to Windows 7 Beta--everything carried over nicely except for my CS4 Master Collection. Upon booting Premiere Pro up, I was informed that my "trial" had expired--a fact which I knew was not true as I own retail. I figured that uninstalling and re installing would solve my problem, but when I rebooted the setup, the installer would install about 15% of the complete package before giving me an error and closing.
After this, I read through some forums and learned that I needed to run CS4Cleanup from Adobe to reinstall the programs; I installed both the CS4Cleanup and the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility (the Windows Installer Cleanup was needed for the Adobe Cleanup to work) and ran the CS4Cleanup successfully.
However...when I attempted to run the Setup.exe after the cleanup, the initial Setup gets to about 80% and then informs me that the "setup encountered an error and cannot continue" and then closes on me. Since using the WIndows and Adobe Cleanups, I am now worse off then I was before! Does anyone have any suggestions/solutions?

Hopefully you were not even thinking about using a beta release of an operating system for production work! Even Microsoft warns you about that! And even more so, you should not even attempt to do an "in place" operating system "upgrade" (something that has never worked particularly well with any Microsoft operating system).
Assuming you were just "hacking around" trying to see how well Windows 7 may work with existing applications, you should have deactivated the Adobe software running under Vista, backed up data, and totally reformatted the disk (low level format) before attempting any such experiments.
Please understand that Adobe does
not support operation under pre-production operating systems. CS4 was released well before there were any builds of Windows 7 available to developers.
- Dov

CS4 Master Collection wont fully uninstall

I have been running CS4 Master Collection on Windows Vista for some time, upgraded to Windows 7, had a few installing issues with putting CS4 MC back on my PC. Decided to start from scratch so uninstalled it, using Add/Remove AND the CS4 Cleanup Script, and a rgeistry cleaner.
Problem now is when I go to reinstall it, it still thinks some of the products are still installed. The boxes are greyed out next to After Effects, Premiere etc so it won't reinstall them!
Any suggestions on how I can can COMPLETELY remove CS4 Master Collection, totally, so that I can reinstall it again? It's obviously leaving a trace somewhere, even after running the cleanup script. (I can confrim I have manually deleted the CS4 folder form Program Files too which the cleanup script does not seem to getting rid of!)
I am running on 32 Bit Windows 7 system.
Thanks
Ricardo Lacombe

I would make sure that you de-activated the program. Wipe the drive clean and then install Windows 7. There are too many issues with doing an in-place major upgrade of a Windows OS.

CS4 Master Collection Updated Installation Media

I am setting up a remote deployment package for CS4 Master Collection using the Development Tool Kit to use with SCCM.
I was initially using the 4 installation media provided using the steps provided in the documentation. However, they are clearly outdated now and require updating. If i download the Installation media from the http://helpx.adobe.com/creative-suite/kb/cs4-product-downloads.html webpage will these have the current updates installed or will the client systems have run the updates still?
I did find the remote updating tool but it states it is for CS5 and above. Is there a similar tool for CS4?
Thanks for any assistance.

Moving this discussion to the Enterprise Deployment for Creative Cloud, Creative Suite forum'
Mikey_it please be aware the installers available at Download CS4 products are for retail licenses. If you are deploying the software then it is likely you have a volume license. In this case you will want to download the volume license installation files from https://licensing.adobe.com/.

CS4 Master Collection Installation Fails

I have tried several times over the last 2 days to install the CS4 Master Collection from the 30-day trial DVDs. However, it has failed every time I have tried with the folowing message: "Error 1603. Fatal error during installation." I have used the Adobe Support Advisor to read the log file and deleted the specified files, but it still fails. I just tried installing Fireworks by itself and it still failed. It should not be this difficult.

i have the same error 1603 my os is windows xp and all that aplications are closed and i dont know why it keeps showing me that error. i am running from an adm account could it be that???

CS4 Master Collection - Problem occurred while extracting...

After spending $1,500 and two days of RL time downloading the CS4 Master Collection twice, I am just a tad frustrated.
Each time I download the CS4 suite file and try to install it, I immediately get the error:
"A problem occurred while extracting the archive. Please try downloading the Adobe CS4 Master Collection again."
No. I refuse to spend another full day downloading this file yet again just to receive the same error.
Anyone have some insight into this problem? (more so than "turn off your anti-virus program"
Thanks in advance.

I am having the same problem. I found a forum that suggested this. Apparently it worked for some people, but not for me. Let me know if it does:
1. Start -> All Programs -> Accessories
2. Right-click on Command Prompt and select "Run as..."
3. Run as Administrator (even if you are logged in as Admin. You need to run in the Black Command Prompt, not the White one)
4. Run: regsvr32 JScript.DLL
5. Then run: regsvr32 vbscript.DLL
(dont forget the spaces, or it won't work)
6. Then try running the set up again
As i said, it worked for some on the forum, but not others (like me). Try it and see if works for you

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