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We have been using a  very large custom generic panel in CS4 File Info.  The MRU file has  grown to 2.5 mb, the properties are 1.5 mb -- but they have been working  great in CS4.  In CS5 they frequently do not work .   The panel will either be empty when  you open it, although there are xmp values in file, or after entering data, the panel will spin for a while, show empty again, often after trying to process the MRU's.
Are panels  in CS5 products OK to be used for this large of a  metadata set of attributes and values?
Using latest Macs, 4GB of ram, happens in all CS5 apps.
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Todd

Todd,
I understand your requirement. Controlled vocabularies can be a 
critical component of a metadata strategy.
I know people that use a semicolon delimited file to pre-load the CS3 
File Info MRU of a bag or seq field via a single copy and paste. Its 
limit appears to be fifteen entries. Like you they are simulating a 
controlled vocabulary for a list.
Pound Hill's MetaGrove Plug-in provides controlled vocabularies for 
lists (bag and seq). These are displayed as a table of one column, 
popup at the top, open or closed choice.
The largest single (internal) MetaGrove vocabulary I have implemented 
has 4004 entries in one language, 1 mb in size. PHS's format is more 
verbose than Adobe's MRU or File Info panel formats. It takes 20 
seconds to initialize.
MetaGrove vocabularies can optionally be external text files, with tab 
delimited value/label pairs, local or on the network. These are single 
language, by definition. This is intended for an enterprise where the 
external vocabulary file is typically updated monthly or quarterly. 
The plug-in will automatically cache the update within a week 
(default). The vocabulary can be maintained using a spreadsheet or 
output from an application like yours.
Regarding your test with repeated red, green blue, for 100,000 entries:
In File Info v0 and v1 (CS through CS3), "All names and keyphrases 
(values) in the list must be unique." This constraint is not mentioned 
in the v2/3 File Info document. Does repeated red, green blue work 
with 9 entries or so?
Most CS3 applications have odd behaviors with more than 99 entries in 
a File Info popup. This appears to be fixed in Acrobat 10. I haven't 
attempted more than 200 entries in a CS3 panel popup.
I suspect that building a in-memory copy of a vocabulary from a panel 
file, or from the MRU file, is a serial process and does not scale 
linearly. Each incremental entry takes longer to add to the in-memory 
representation because the entire in-memory copy must be scanned each 
time. The design goals of tens to entries probably did not warrant 
using database techniques for the internal representation. The 
performance in CS4 is your benchmark.
CS4 and 5 File Info appears to be doing some central caching. 
Sometimes, I need to remove the panel entirely, Exit all File Info 
applications, run an application and its File Info, Exit and then add 
the panel in again to get changes to take. You probably need to get 
everyone-out-of-the-pool before you touch the MRU file.
The CS3 copy and paste technique mentioned above might be an 
alternative to let FIle Info manage the MRU. However, in your case, it 
will test the implementation limits of the menu field payload capacity.
Carl  crambert at poundhill dot com

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