Curly quotes

My company is moving away from windows based servers running IIS to Linux running Apache. So now I'm running into the curly quotes issue when pasting from Word in dreamweaver CS4. I have a bunch of sites already built that will be ported over. Not to mention the fact that I get virtually all the content from Word docs. Is there any way to automatically convert curly quotes, apostrophes, em dashes etc without having to resort to manual find and replace on every page? This has become a major issue for me and I'm wondering if there's any way to set up CS4 to automatically handle these characters when cutting and pasting from Word. DW used to do this but CS4 doesn't seem to. Any info is appreciated.
thanks

That is bad programming, they should not occur in these situations.
Thank you for pointing it out I never noticed, because like 95% of the known universe I use metric measures.
I have tried all the likely keyboard commands and searched the user manual and can not find a solution.
I thought of replacing the auto correction with the appropriate space" and "space but this is already hard encoded in and wouldn't fix the problem. What was required in the programming was to check if there was a leading quote mark before substituting a trailing quote mark.
Send feedback to Apple at http://www.apple.com/feedback/pages.html
A work around is to go:
+Menu > Edit > Special Characters… > Punctuation > and use ′ or ″ (single or double Prime)+
These are actually the correct characters for feet and inches and will not be substituted.
To speed it up as you type you could use auto-correction to substitute for /' and /" or whatever you think will work.

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