Custom File Info Panel: Bridge Locks Up (trials, tribulations, woes)

o/ all!
So I've spent the better part of this morning trying (for what I think is the fifth time this year) to get a custom file info panel installed properly. I've managed to successfully install a generic panel with most of the properties that I'd like in the panel proper, however, I'm having no end of trouble publishing and installing the panels and having them display properly in Bridge CC (64-bit).
I've followed the instructions provided in the Programmer's Guide to the letter (yes, including the trust files), and I'm still having issues.
-- System Information --
OS: Windows 7 64-bit
Flash Builder 4.7 (64-bit)
Adobe Bridge CC (64-bit)
Right now, all I'm trying to do is:
Create the flash builder project for an XMP File Info Panel
Publish the file info panel
Confirm the file info panel was installed correctly in Adobe Bridge CC.
The process:
1. I create the new project in Flash Builder (I've attempted using the 4.6.0 and 3.6A flex SDKs).
Now, at this point, I'm simply attempting to confirm that everything is hunky-dory with the installation process before I start converting my generic panel into a flash/flex panel; so I'm not modifying any of the files that the wizard created.
2. Right-click the root project folder in the leftmost pane in Flash Builder, select XMP>Publish.
3. Locate the published panel's output directory that Flash Builder published to
4. Copy/paste the published panel's root directory to the following directories:
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\
I put the panel definition in all of these folders as per various 'fixes' to what I think my issue is that I've discovered while google-troubleshooting.
5. Create a trust file in FlashPlayerTrust folder with the name testPanel36A.cfg (contents listed below):
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\testPanel36a\bin\testPanel36a.swf
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\testPanel36a\bin\testPanel36a.swf
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\testPanel36a\bin\testPanel36a.swf
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\testPanel36a\bin\testPanel36a.swf
As far as I know, I can put multiple paths in these .cfg files, but I'm not-at-all confident that this is, in fact, the case.
After all this, I fire up bridge, right click an image file, and select FileInfo. The dialog displays fine, and the panel tab appears on the right. Clicking on the panel reveals nothing but a gray area with no content, and Bridge locks up entirely. I can't cancel out of the dialog, and end up having to end the process from Task Manager.
My gut tells me that I'm doing something wrong with the trust files, as this seems like the issue that most closely resembles what I'm encountering. Secondarily, It may be the flex SDKs -- I only have the 4.6.0 and the 3.6A SDKs, and the link in the Flash Builder dialog takes me to the sourceforge page for Adobe, and from there, I cannot locate any additional older SDKs to try this with (I've seen posts around saying that people got their panels to work with 3.0, or 3.5).
Anyone have ANY insight on this? Seriously at my wits end -- I've tried everything but nothing seems to work . Many thanks,
.e

Hi The_Mumm,
 You need to correct content fo the .cfg file (hope your .cfg file is at correct directory i.e. C:\Documents and Settings\<user name>\AppData\Roaming\Macromedia\Flash Player\#Security\FlashPlayerTrust). Yes, I agree that you have followed the documentation and put the path upto .swf file.
 Could you please modify the content of the trust file, with the below content (you path have been modified)
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\testPanel36a\bin\
C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\testPanel36a\bin\
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels\testPanel36a\bin\
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\custom\testPanel36a\bin\
Hope everything will work now. If it doesn't work, please put only one path in trust file e.g. "C:\Users\Erik\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels" and put the publish panel in this folder.
One more precaution, don't copy, if required move the custom panel from one place to other.
Please let me know if you still faces any issue. Enjoy you new year.
For your reference, I am following the following steps and everything is working fine
1. Open the Fb7,
2. file->new->project
3. in the new project wizards, select "xmp->custom panel wizard"
4. xmp->publish custom panel
5. Open the .cfg file and added the path (C:\Users\<user name>\appdata\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels) where my panel has got published.
6. Ran Bridge CC, panel is there and working fine.
One more variations I did is, moved custom panel from C:\Users\<user name>\appdata\Roaming\Adobe\XMP\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels to C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Bridge CC (64 Bit)\Custom File Info Panels\4.0\panels (the location of the custom file info panel inside bridge).
 For you doubts I tried with flex SDK 3.3A and 3.6a both worked fine. As in forum you have written that you don't have any other sdk. If you like please go on the following links for older SDKs "http://sourceforge.net/adobe/flexsdk/wiki/Download%20Flex%203/"
-Sunil

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