CVC - Hierarchy aggregated level - dis aggregation level

Dear Experts,
I have simple question
just wonder how system recognize which characteristics is higher lever and which is lower level
i know we assign location and product in planning area so that system can recognize
like say i have region and brand how the system recognize it
Profit center ->Region->location->salesorg->product and so on ...
Regards
Raj

Hi Raj,
System finds the aggregates based on the characteristics in MPOS
I can explain you via an example:
Let us say you have an MPOS with only 3 Characteristics - P, L1, L2
And the above 2 rows (excl Header) are your CVCs.
A-B-C AND A-B-D are the detailed level, accordingly the Keyfigures
Now, in your shuffler you selected only A-B as your selection that includes C and D also, so
Key figures for selection A-B (aggregated) = KFs of A-B-C + A-B-D
Guess this explains.
Regards
JB

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Copyright (c) 1982, 2007, Oracle. All rights reserved.
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Hi Gokhan,
Thank you for point this.
After spending a time studying about this I find out this:
Your expanation apply only in Oracle 10gR1/R2.
Because there is differences between RMAN Version 10gR1/R2 and 11gR1/R2 about Incremental Level 1 and this confuse me.
Oracle 10gR1/R2 run only one backup incremental level 1 even if level 0 not exists .
Oracle 11gR1/R2 run two backups incremental if level 0 not exists. i.e level 0 first and after that level 1.
Oracle 10gR2
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http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B19306_01/backup.102/b14192/bkup004.htm
Thats means wich RMAN run level 0 with name level 1. (i.e: Only one Backup) This is confuse.
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http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/B28359_01/backup.111/b28270/rcmcncpt.htm#BRADV89500
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http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E11882_01/backup.112/e10642/rcmcncpt.htm#BRADV89500
Thats means wich RMAN run (automatically) level 0 first after finish level 0 backup RMAN run level 1 backup (i.e Two Backups). This seems right.
Regards,
Levi Pereira

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