Deactivating Font Book

I got so fed up of Font Book I download another Font Management software. What I'd like to know is will Font Book still be running in the background as well as the new font software? One of the reasons why I was using Font Book was to deactivate all my fonts (2,700) so my Mac would run faster. So if it is still running this kind of defeats the object. And it won't let me delete it.

Yes, deleting the Font Book app is all it does. You can easily replicate it by opening Terminal and entering:
sudo rm -r
Put a space after the -r, then drag and drop Font Book into Terminal. The path and its name will fill in for you the same as above. For this particular Unix command, it doesn't matter if the -r is upper or lower case.
As with deleting any item from the drive, you can't reverse it without returning the item to the drive. So if you think you may ever want to put Font Book back, copy the app to an external drive, first. All other components it relies on will still be on the drive. They'll just all be inert without the main app.
If you're wondering what the command means:
sudo (Super User DO). You're giving yourself temporary root privileges. Necessary in Terminal for this particular removal since your admin account doesn't have great enough permissions to delete the app.
rm (remove)
-r Since it's an application package, there are more files within what you see as only one item on the desktop. If you didn't include this switch, which tells rm to remove any nested items, the command to delete Font Book would fail since it can't remove the top level item if it doesn't have permission to also remove the nested items.
Or you can skip Terminal entirely and remove Font Book from the desktop. Highlight Font Book and press Command+I, or choose Get Info from the menus (same thing). Click on the lock at the lower right and enter your admin password so you can alter the permissions. Change all of them to Read & Write. Close Get Info. You can now delete Font Book without the OS saying you can't.

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        0x7fff8ae8c000 -     0x7fff8b1a5ff7  com.apple.Foundation (6.7.1 - 833.20) <D922F590-FDA6-3D89-A271-FD35E2290624> /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation
        0x7fff8b1a6000 -     0x7fff8b1a7fff  liblangid.dylib (??? - ???) <CACBE3C3-2F7B-3EED-B50E-EDB73F473B77> /usr/lib/liblangid.dylib
        0x7fff8b1a8000 -     0x7fff8b1d3ff7  libxslt.1.dylib (3.24.0 - compatibility 3.0.0) <8051A3FC-7385-3EA9-9634-78FC616C3E94> /usr/lib/libxslt.1.dylib
        0x7fff8b1d4000 -     0x7fff8b1dfff7  libc++abi.dylib (14.0.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <8FF3D766-D678-36F6-84AC-423C878E6D14> /usr/lib/libc++abi.dylib
        0x7fff8b31b000 -     0x7fff8b3fcfff  com.apple.CoreServices.OSServices (478.29 - 478.29) <B487110E-C942-33A8-A494-3BDEDB88B1CD> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OSServi ces.framework/Versions/A/OSServices
        0x7fff8c1cd000 -     0x7fff8c1d3ff7  libunwind.dylib (30.0.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <1E9C6C8C-CBE8-3F4B-A5B5-E03E3AB53231> /usr/lib/system/libunwind.dylib
        0x7fff8c202000 -     0x7fff8c207ff7  libsystem_network.dylib (??? - ???) <5DE7024E-1D2D-34A2-80F4-08326331A75B> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_network.dylib
        0x7fff8c2a3000 -     0x7fff8c2b5ff7  libz.1.dylib (1.2.5 - compatibility 1.0.0) <30CBEF15-4978-3DED-8629-7109880A19D4> /usr/lib/libz.1.dylib
        0x7fff8c2b6000 -     0x7fff8c3b9fff  libsqlite3.dylib (9.6.0 - compatibility 9.0.0) <7F60B0FF-4946-3639-89AB-B540D318B249> /usr/lib/libsqlite3.dylib
        0x7fff8c3ba000 -     0x7fff8c3bbfff  libsystem_sandbox.dylib (??? - ???) <8D14139B-B671-35F4-9E5A-023B4C523C38> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_sandbox.dylib
        0x7fff8c55c000 -     0x7fff8c55dfff  libdnsinfo.dylib (395.6.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <718A135F-6349-354A-85D5-430B128EFD57> /usr/lib/system/libdnsinfo.dylib
        0x7fff8ca27000 -     0x7fff8ca28fff  libDiagnosticMessagesClient.dylib (??? - ???) <3DCF577B-F126-302B-BCE2-4DB9A95B8598> /usr/lib/libDiagnosticMessagesClient.dylib
        0x7fff8cbb7000 -     0x7fff8cdb9fff  libicucore.A.dylib (46.1.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <38CD6ED3-C8E4-3CCD-89AC-9C3198803101> /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
        0x7fff8d4c6000 -     0x7fff8d62cfff  com.apple.CFNetwork (520.2.5 - 520.2.5) <406712D9-3F0C-3763-B4EB-868D01F1F042> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CFNetwo rk.framework/Versions/A/CFNetwork
        0x7fff8d62d000 -     0x7fff8d63bfff  libdispatch.dylib (187.7.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <712AAEAC-AD90-37F7-B71F-293FF8AE8723> /usr/lib/system/libdispatch.dylib
        0x7fff8d6fe000 -     0x7fff8d6ffff7  libremovefile.dylib (21.0.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <C6C49FB7-1892-32E4-86B5-25AD165131AA> /usr/lib/system/libremovefile.dylib
        0x7fff8d700000 -     0x7fff8d735fff  libTrueTypeScaler.dylib (??? - ???) <B326A78E-C65A-345E-8D64-62B45CC6FA3F> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ ATS.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libTrueTypeScaler.dylib
        0x7fff8dd26000 -     0x7fff8dd2dfff  libcopyfile.dylib (85.1.0 - compatibility 1.0.0) <172B1985-F24A-34E9-8D8B-A2403C9A0399> /usr/lib/system/libcopyfile.dylib
        0x7fff8dddb000 -     0x7fff8dee7fff  libcrypto.0.9.8.dylib (44.0.0 - compatibility 0.9.8) <3A8E1F89-5E26-3C8B-B538-81F5D61DBF8A> /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.8.dylib
        0x7fff8dee8000 -     0x7fff8df27fff  com.apple.AE (527.7 - 527.7) <B82F7ABC-AC8B-3507-B029-969DD5CA813D> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/AE.fram ework/Versions/A/AE
        0x7fff8df28000 -     0x7fff8e02aff7  libxml2.2.dylib (10.3.0 - compatibility 10.0.0) <D46F371D-6422-31B7-BCE0-D80713069E0E> /usr/lib/libxml2.2.dylib
        0x7fff8e0d2000 -     0x7fff8e0dafff  libsystem_dnssd.dylib (??? - ???) <407A48F3-64A0-348B-88E6-70CECD3D0D67> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_dnssd.dylib
        0x7fff8e7c4000 -     0x7fff8e80fff7  com.apple.SystemConfiguration (1.11.1 - 1.11) <F832FE21-5509-37C6-B1F1-48928F31BE45> /System/Library/Frameworks/SystemConfiguration.framework/Versions/A/SystemConfi guration
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    The FontRegistry database is used by Font Book. It's probably corrupt. fontd's main purpose is to run when fonts are being activated, or deactivated. It appears to be crashing due to being unable to access the database.
    To clear Font Book's database:
    1) Restart your Mac and immediately hold down the Shift key when you hear the startup chime to boot into Safe Mode. Keep holding the Shift key until OS X asks you to log in (you will get this screen on a Safe Mode boot even if your Mac is set to automatically log in). Let the Mac finish booting to the desktop and then restart normally. This will clear Font Book's database and the cache files for the user account you logged into in Safe Mode. In Leopard or earlier, any font sets you have created will be gone. Also, all fonts in the three main Fonts folders (System, Library, your user account) will now be active, regardless of their state beforehand.
    2) Clear all font cache files from the system and restart.
    Close all running applications. From an administrator account, open the Terminal app and enter the following command (or copy/paste it from here):
    sudo atsutil databases -remove
    This removes all font cache files. Both for the system and all user font cache files. After running the command, close Terminal and immediately restart your Mac.
    The next time you launch Font Book, it will create a new database.

  • Font Book won't remove font files

    I've been doing some testing with Font Book in hopes to replace Suitcase for font management. I've been testing on OS X 10.4.5 with Font Book 2.0.2.
    I have FB prefs setup with User as the default install location. Getting fonts installed works fine. To simplify for testing I'm just using one source folder with one family of fonts in it. So I drag the source folder into the FB window where I have created a collection called Temp.
    The font files are copied into ~/Library/Fonts, just as they should be, and are now available to the system. When I select the font family in FB and choose Remove Font, it disappears from FB, however the font files remain in ~/Library/Fonts.
    According to all documentation I've read, that is not the expected behavior. When Remove Fonts is used within FB, the font files should be moved to the trash.
    In addition, since the font files are being left in ~/Library/Fonts, if I try to add the same source folder back into FB, nothing happens, they just simply do not load. If I manually remove the lingering fonts from ~/Library/Fonts I am then able to add the source folder again.
    So it appears that FB is not functioning as advertised. I've confirmed this on two separate machines running 10.4.5 and also with one running 10.3.9.
    Any ideas what's up or am I missing something here?

    "When I select the font family in FB and choose Remove Font, it disappears from FB, however the font files remain in ~/Library/Fonts.
    Where are you selecting the font, from within the "All Fonts" collection, or within the "Temp" collection? If you've selected it from within your Temp collection, "Remove" only removes the font from the collection, not from your installed fonts. To remove the fonts from your installed fonts, you need to select them from within the All Fonts collection.
    I think what you might want to do rather than create a collection is to create an actual "Temporary" font library. In Font Book, select the All Fonts collection so that the focus is in the leftmost column and choose "New Library" from the action menu. Name it "Temporary" (or whatever else you'd like) and then hit enter. Notice it's listed above the dividing line which separates libraries on the top with collections on the bottom. Now, drag your folder of fonts from the Finder onto the "Temporary" library icon in Font Book. NOTE: A reference to the fonts will be added to Font Book; the fonts themselves are not copied but remain where they are in the Finder and are activated or deactivated from there. Now, whether you select the fonts from within the All Fonts library or the Temporary library, the "Remove" command will remove the fonts from Font Book. (Since the fonts remained in their original location, when they're removed from Font Book they're not moved to the Trash; rather, the reference to them is simply removed from Font Book).
    Hope this helps....
    Dual 2.7 GHz PowerPC G5 w/ 2.5 GB RAM   Mac OS X (10.4.6)  

  • Font Book disables fonts every time I restart my computer

    First, some info on my computer:
    - OS X 10.9.3
    - Adobe Creative Suite 5.5 version 7.5
    - Office 2011 14.4.3
    - Suitcase Fusion 5 16.2.0
    As a graphic designer, I've accumulated thousands of fonts. In an attempt to clean this up, I recently purchased Suitcase Fusion 5. I transferred the fonts by going into Font Book and selecting "Restore Standard Fonts." I then took the Macintosh HD; Library; "Fonts (Removed)" folder and added those to Suitcase Fusion 5.
    Then I went back, and added about five of the removed fonts back into Macintosh HD; Library; Fonts — just because they are fonts I use frequently — as well as the Microsoft folder of fonts.
    Now, for some reason, every time I start my computer (I shut down every night before leaving my office) about half of the Microsoft fonts are disabled by font book. The next day I enable them and everything works well and they all show up in both my Adobe and Office programs, but I'd really rather not play that game every morning. Again, almost all of the fonts being disabled are in the Macintosh HD; Library; Fonts; Microsoft folder, but only until the Ms or so, after which point they all show up as enabled and work just fine. And then there are a couple of outliers I've marked with an asterisk, that are just in the typical Macintosh HD; Library; Fonts folder that are also being disabled, the most confusing one being ThirstyRoughTextures.ttf, because the rest of the Thirsty Rough family is working just fine. (This single Thirsty Rough file is the only of the five-or-so fonts that I added back into my library after restoring it to standard fonts that is acting up. The others show up in all programs just fine.)
    Anyhow, does anyone know why this might be happening, or how to resolve the issue? Any input would be great, thanks!
    Fonts being disabled:
    Adabi MT Condensed Extra Bold
    Adabi MT Condensed Light
    *Arial.ttf (in Fonts folder)
    Arial.ttf (in Microsoft folder)
    Baskerville Old Face
    Batang.ttf
    Bauhaus 93
    Bell MT
    Bernard MT Condensed
    Book Antiqua
    Bookman Old Style
    Bookshelf Symbol 7.ttf
    Braggadocio
    Britannic Bold
    *Brush Script.ttf (in Fonts folder)
    Brush Script.ttf (in Microsoft folder)
    Calibri.ttf (Bold Italic, Bold, Italic and Calibril.ttf)
    Calisto MT
    Cambria.ttf (Bold Italic, Bold, Italic)
    Cambria Math.ttf
    Candara.ttf (Bold Italic, Bold, Italic)
    Century
    Century Gothic
    Century Schoolbook
    Colonna
    Consolas.ttf (Bold Italic, Bold, Italic)
    Constantia.ttf (Bold Italic, Bold, Italic)
    Copperplate Gothic Bold
    Copperplate Gothic Light
    Corbel.ttf (Bold Italic, Bold, Italic)
    Curlz MT
    Desdemona
    Edwardian Script ITC
    Engravers MT
    Eurostile
    Footlight Light
    Franklin Gothic Book.ttf (Italic)
    Franklin Gothic Medium.ttf (Italic)
    Gabriola.ttf
    Garamond
    Gill Sans MT.ttf (Bold Italic, Bold, Italic)
    Gill Sans Ultra Bold
    Gloucester MT Extra Condensed
    Goudy Old Style
    Gulim.ttf
    Haettenschweiler
    Harrington
    Imprint MT Shadow
    Kino
    Lucida Blackletter
    Lucida Bright
    Lucida Calligraphy
    Lucida Console.ttf
    Lucid Fax
    Lucida Handwriting
    Lucida Sans
    Lucida Sans Typewriter
    Lucida Sans Unicode
    Marlett.ttf
    Matura Script Capitals
    Meiryo.ttf (Bold Italic, Bold, Italic)
    himalaya.ttf
    MingLiU-ExtB.ttf
    *ThirstyRoughTextures.otf

    I'm fed up with Font Book and ready to remove it.
    Just to keep it easily handy, put the Font Book app on an external drive. All other supporting system files for it will still be on the drive, so using it again rather than a third party font manager is as simple as copying FB back into the Applications folder.
    It is essential after deleting Font Book to follow the steps in my article to remove the abandoned Font Book database. Even with the main Font Book app removed from the drive, if the database exists, OS X will keep trying to read and use it, and it will interfere with all other font managers.
    which seemingly only activates fonts once I open up that extension
    Those are extension panels Suitcase adds to apps they've written them for so you don't have to go to the main interface in order to turn fonts on or off. It's a convenience thing to speed up access to your font sets.
    what will happen to programs like Microsoft Office that aren't compatible with Fusion?
    If you use a panel in the Adobe apps to turn any fonts on or off, all apps system wide will see the changes in available fonts since that's how it works with any manager. Or, you can launch the main Suitcase interface to do the same thing.
    MS Office has an annoying quirk I haven't seen with any other app. It will not pay attention to any fonts you've activated or deactivated after Word has been launched. That's not a Suitcase issue, it's any font manager. Office simply does not keep tabs on available fonts while in use. To see fonts you've activated after Word is already running, you have to quit Word and relaunch it. Same with turning fonts off. Doesn't matter that they're not available any more. If they were when you launched Word, they'll continue to show in the list. Attempting to use one of course doesn't work. It types in Arial, or something, but not what you chose since it can't.
    Is FontBook irrelevant and Office/any other program still just utilizes the actual HD/Library/Fonts folder without it?
    When font management is working as it supposed to, all apps (save Office) will change the list of fonts you can use as you turn them on or off. It used to be, way back in Tiger, 10.4 (before 10.4.3) and earlier that any fonts in the System or main Library folder were available all the time with no way to control them, other than physically deleting fonts from those folders. This is still true of the System's Fonts folder.

  • Lion Font Book problem with Adobe FontFolio 11

    I have a fresh install of Lion. My problem is with FontFolio 11. It installs well, finds duplicates etc. The problem happens only after i deactivate all of the fontfolio fonts. After they have all be deactivated, if I click on any other font collection, fontd jumps up to 99% CPU usage and Font Book not responding. After 5 minutes of this Font Book's Real Mem usage slowly starts to increase, sometimes up to 3 gigs. Eventually, I am able to click through collection with no delay, however, after a system restart or just a Font Book restart, the process starts over and i have to wait.
    I have tried:
    Clearing every font cache file I can think of.
    Using Font Finagler to clear font caches.
    Restarting in safe mode.
    Creating a new user.
    Nothing has made this problem go away.
    So, what exactly is happening? Why is Font Book fast and responsive with my 427 fontfolio fonts active, but when i deactivate them it slows to a crawl and goes through the same CPU/memory cycle every time? I have research and experimented for a solid week. I can't waste any more time on this. I'm this close to giving LION and Font Book the big thumbs down and buying something that actually works.
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    Same here. My thread: https://discussions.apple.com/message/15995212#15995212
    I've had no replies. Have you looked at Activity Monitor while this is happening? check it out. I think i'm just going to go back to Leopard, don't know what else to do. Do you have an SSD in there?

  • Font book doesn't show a preview of a newly installed font

    I purchased the postscript ITC font Zapf Dingbat. It appears in the Font Book list, but there isn't a preview. It works fine in Illustrator, put it appears as Helvetica in Text Edit. Quark Xpress lists it in the font menu, but it doesn't appear in the document on screen. It does, however, print correctly and show up in PDFs I create from the Quark document. Any ideas?
    Power Mac 1.8 Dual   Mac OS X (10.3.5)  

    None of my fonts show up when they are first added. I just get a blank.
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  • Fonts are activated despite being off in Font Book

    I opened a Word doc in MS Word 2008 and, all of a sudden, started asking me in a dialog box:
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    And then buttons to either "Show in Finder" "Don't Allow" and "Allow"
    Some I allowed and some I didn't allow.
    This was a document I had previously opened in Word with no problem. These are fonts that were definitely not in the Word doc.
    Now, in Word and other applications like InDesign, I have all my fonts activated despite being off or deactivated in Font Book.
    That's nearly 100 or so fonts open that I don't need so this is slowing me down.
    I've restarted - no luck.
    Any ideas?

    First try manually removing the Office font cache files. Close all Office applications. Remove the following files. The tilde (~) indicates your home account.
    ~/Library/Caches/com.microsoft.browserfont.cache
    ~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Office Font Cache (11)
    For Office 2008, the location of the second item is:
    ~/Library/Preferences/Microsoft/Office 2008/Office Font Cache (12)
    If that doesn't do it, read on.
    Being unable to open or close fonts from within Font Book's interface is almost always a sign its database is damaged. The only fix is to clear it and start over.
    Restart your Mac and immediately hold down the Shift key when you hear the startup chime to boot into Safe Mode. Keep holding the Shift key until OS X asks you to log in (you will get this screen on a Safe Mode boot even if your Mac is set to automatically log in). Let the Mac finish booting to the desktop and then restart normally.
    This will clear Font Book's database and the cache files of the user account you logged into in Safe Mode. Any font sets you have created will be gone. Also, all fonts in the three main Fonts folders (System, Library, your user account) will now be active, regardless of their state beforehand.
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    Close all running applications. From an administrator account, open the Terminal app and enter the following command. You can also copy/paste it from here into the Terminal window:
    sudo atsutil databases -remove
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  • Font Book on/off is confused (thinking fonts are off when they are on)

    So my Font Book activates and deactivates font properly and other apps react accordingly.
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    so after much research, trial and errors and several backups later:
    Trashed the fb.db file in my ~Users > Gaith > Library > Application Support > Font Book folder.

  • Deactivated Fonts keep loading

    I deactivated all of the Asian and Cyrillic fonts using FontBook, yet they keep loading in all of my MS Office X applications. They don't load in other apps.
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    Good luck!
    Dr. Smoke
    Author: Troubleshooting Mac® OS X
    Note: The information provided in the link(s) above is freely available. However, because I own The X Lab™, a commercial Web site to which some of these links point, the Apple Discussions Terms of Use require I include the following disclosure statement with this post:
    I may receive some form of compensation, financial or otherwise, from my recommendation or link.

  • How do I use the Japanese fonts in Font Book in a Pages document?

    How does one use the Japanese fonts in Font Book in a Pages document. Pages has its own fonts but I cannot get the Japanese fonts into it.

    To type japanese on a computer you change the keyboard, not the font.  Go to system prefs/keyboard/input sources and add Japanese/Kotoeri to the list, then select Hiragana in the "flag" menu at the top right of the screen, then type.  The font will take care of itself.
    http://redcocoon.org/cab/mysoft.html
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