Font Book on/off is confused (thinking fonts are off when they are on)

So my Font Book activates and deactivates font properly and other apps react accordingly.
Problem is the On/Off label next to each font inside Font Book. Font Book is completely ignoring the correct statues of each font. So it is stuck on a specific label. If a font is deactivated, and I try to activate, it works fine, BUT the label is stuck displaying 'OFF' instead of turning into 'ON'.
This seemed like a small issue, until i needed to deactivate a font that says 'OFF'! now I am stuck, since right clicking on it says 'Activate family' while it should say 'Deactive family'! Font book thinks its deactivated while in reality its activated!
i can activate but not deactivate since the labels are wrong and font book is confused!
Here are the things that i already tried: restart, check for damaged fonts, repair permissions, run iTools, run disk utility, deleting font book preferences.
Only thing that I have not tried is deleting all fonts, rebooting font book and doing everything again. (i have around 3100 fonts)
how do i resolve this? anyone else encountering this problem?

so after much research, trial and errors and several backups later:
Trashed the fb.db file in my ~Users > Gaith > Library > Application Support > Font Book folder.

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> I have a gallery i'm working on, located here:
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http://www.stationarynotes.com/portfolio/Gallery.html
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> positioned with whole numbers and aligns to the grid
within its own swf, and
> the movie clip which receives it is also positioned with
whole numbers. Do you
> think perhaps when it is loaded into another MC it is
being pushed off of the
> grid somehow...? I'm really confused.
>
> I can post my .flas if that'll help.
>

While in zh|ja locale, zh|ja fonts are used even for Latin... why?

One thing that has always bothered me is that my system uses funny fonts when it is running in a non-English locale, and I think I finally found the culprit.
When I check for font matching in English everything seems normal:
$ fc-match -s "sans"
DejaVuSans.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Bold"
DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Oblique"
DejaVuSans-BoldOblique.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Bold Oblique"
iYaHei.ttf: "iYaHei" "Regular"
malgun.ttf: "Malgun Gothic" "Regular"
kartika.ttf: "Kartika" "Regular"
arialuni.ttf: "Arial Unicode MS" "Normal"
But, if I were to do it in Chinese or Japanese:
$ fc-match -s "sans:lang=zh|ja"
iYaHei.ttf: "iYaHei" "Regular"
DejaVuSans.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Bold"
DejaVuSans-Oblique.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Oblique"
DejaVuSans-BoldOblique.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Bold Oblique"
malgun.ttf: "Malgun Gothic" "Regular"
kartika.ttf: "Kartika" "Regular"
arialuni.ttf: "Arial Unicode MS" "Normal"
DejaVuSans goes /after/ iYaHei. This is a problem, as iYaHei's Latin glyphs look horrible; its CJK glyphs, while not the best, are at least extensive, which is why I use it. For monospace it is even more of a problem, because then Arial MS Unicode, which isn't even a monospace font gets priority over DejaVu Sans Mono in zh|ja environments.
This is my current fonts.conf:
<fontconfig>
<alias>
<family>Monospace</family>
<prefer>
<family>DejaVu Sans Mono</family>
<family>Arial Unicode MS</family>
</prefer>
</alias>
<alias>
<family>sans-serif</family>
<prefer>
<family>DejaVu Sans</family>
<family>iYaHei</family>
<family>Malgun Gothic</family>
<family>Kartika</family>
<family>Arial Unicode MS</family>
</prefer>
</alias>
<alias>
<family>serif</family>
<prefer>
<family>Times New Roman</family>
<family>AR PL New Sung</family>
<family>MS Mincho</family>
<family>MingLiU</family>
<family>MingLiU-ExtB</family>
<family>MingLiU_HKSCS-ExtB</family>
<family>MS Song</family>
<family>UnBatang</family>
<family>RaghuMalayalam</family>
<family>Arial Unicode MS</family>
</prefer>
</alias>
<dir>/home/sokuban/.fontmatrix</dir>
<dir>/home/sokuban/.Fontmatrix/Activated</dir>
</fontconfig>
This is probably happening because while I'm in a zh|ja locale, the system is looking for the highest font on my priority list that says it is a zh|ja font and then uses it—even to cover Latin etc glyphs that fonts higher in my priority list can cover; I'm guessing this is because it is assuming that those fonts aren't suitable for use in a zh|ja environment.
So the simplest way to solve the problem that everyone would immediately think of is to say that DejaVu can do zh|ja. I (presume) it wouldn't cause any problems even though they can't, because then they will simply borrow from real zh|ja fonts and will now at least be used in a zh|ja locale. Actually, I would want this behaviour no matter what way I decide to solve the problem.
The other—and better—solution to the problem would be to specifically set a different priority list to be used for different languages. That way when the system looks for "sans:lang=zh_TW", it'll get DejaVu at the top of the list to handle Latin, and then a nice traditional Chinese font. Likewise if the system looked for "sans:lang=ja", it'll get DejaVu with a nice Japanese font. Before I didn't think this was possible, but now that I see how this font matching is working, it would be weird if it wasn't possible.
Right now I have these nice Chinese/Japanese fonts installed on my system, but I don't always get to use them (mostly while browsing, if the html is nice enough). I made my system default iYaHei (and the firefly font for serif) because iYaHei covers almost all of CJK and is readable. If I were to put one of the nice Chinese or Japanese fonts as my system default, I'd end up having some glyphs being borrowed from another font, and it looks really ugly when this happens. Monolinguals don't have this problem, because they can just set their system font to their language, and then be done with it, as they'll rarely need to display any glyphs unsupported.
If anyone can help me, especially with getting a different priority list for different languages, it would be appreciated.

Hmm, that seems to work fine for one language, but I put 4 languages in there and only the first one I put works properly:
This would be my fontconfig
<fontconfig>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>zh_TW</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>serif</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Serif</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Serif</string>
<string>MingLiU</string>
<string>MingLiU-ExtB</string>
<string>MingLiU_HKSCS-ExtB</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>zh_TW</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>sans-serif</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Sans</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans</string>
<string>Microsoft JhengHei</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>zh_TW</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>monospace</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Sans Mono</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
<string>WenQuanYi Zen Hei Mono</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>zh_CN</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>serif</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Serif</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Serif</string>
<string>MS Song</string>
<string>WenQuanYi Bitmap Song</string>
<string>AR PL New Sung</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>zh_CN</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>sans-serif</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Sans</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans</string>
<string>Microsoft YaHei</string>
<string>WenQuanYi Zen Hei</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>zh_CN</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>monospace</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Sans Mono</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
<string>WenQuanYi Zen Hei Mono</string>
<string>AR PL New Sung</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>ja</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>serif</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Serif</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Serif</string>
<string>MS PMincho</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>ja</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>sans-serif</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Sans</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans</string>
<string>Meiryo</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>ja</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>monospace</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Sans Mono</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
<string>MS Gothic</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>ko</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>serif</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Serif</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Serif</string>
<string>Batang</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>ko</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>sans-serif</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Sans</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans</string>
<string>Malgun Gothic</string>
</edit>
</match>
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>ko</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>monospace</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Sans Mono</string>
<string>Bitstream Vera Sans Mono</string>
<string>UnTaza</string>
</edit>
</match>
<alias>
<family>Monospace</family>
<prefer>
<family>DejaVu Sans Mono</family>
<family>Arial Unicode MS</family>
</prefer>
</alias>
<alias>
<family>sans-serif</family>
<prefer>
<family>DejaVu Sans</family>
<family>iYaHei</family>
<family>Malgun Gothic</family>
<family>Kartika</family>
<family>Arial Unicode MS</family>
</prefer>
</alias>
<alias>
<family>serif</family>
<prefer>
<family>Times New Roman</family>
<family>AR PL New Sung</family>
<family>MS Mincho</family>
<family>MingLiU</family>
<family>MingLiU-ExtB</family>
<family>MingLiU_HKSCS-ExtB</family>
<family>MS Song</family>
<family>UnBatang</family>
<family>RaghuMalayalam</family>
<family>Arial Unicode MS</family>
</prefer>
</alias>
<dir>/home/sokuban/.fontmatrix</dir>
<dir>/home/sokuban/.Fontmatrix/Activated</dir>
</fontconfig>
I had to put zh_TW at the very top, otherwise matching for zh_TW would pull up meiryo first. There is still one little problem in that matching for ko will pull up MS Mincho before Batang, but whatever, I don't really care that much. Meiryo and Malgun Gothic also still go before DejaVu Sans for some reason, but this again doesn't really matter, and might actually be a good thing.
So far setting it like this seems to work to some degree. More of Niconico Douga uses Meiryo now (the search bar and stuff still uses iYaHei, but I don't think much can be done about that), if I run a program with LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 and it has Japanese support it'll use Meiryo too. But this doesn't work with Chinese. (I guess because I had country codes in my Chinese matching rules) Oh well, this is still a step up, and Trad Chinese with a Simp Chinese font isn't as bad as Japanese with a Simp Chinese font; I've gotten used to seeing it everywhere. (Heck, the book I'm using to study Chinese now is a translation from a book made to study Simplified - and although it is a traditional book, it still uses the same simplified font.)
EDIT: Actually, it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the program having Japanese support or not. Some programs will use Meiryo, others will completely ignore the fontconfig settings (and use iYaHei). Sonata for example, even though it had a working Japanese localization, used iYaHei, while thunar and mousepad used Meiryo.
I used to have this bug that pretty much made working in CJK locales impossible, it took a really long time to open up terminals because of the messed up font settings. This seems to be fixed in a Japanese locale, but not a Taiwanese. Again, I guess this has to do with the country code above. (If you use a country code do you need to put a different syntax? Because other than the fc-match -s "sans:lang=zh_TW" results, the Chinese lines don't seem to have any effect—though I guess if that command shows it, they must be affected?)
Also, I'm not sure if I've been blind and not noticed it until now, but after applying these Changes /all/ kana are using Meiryo. (Unless specified otherwise) This is both a good thing and a bad thing—no, I think it is a bad thing. Because Japanese text uses kana and kanji (CJK unified block). So now when I have a Japanese filename in thunar, the kana shows up using a proper Japanese font, but the Chinese Characters in the name show up using a Chinese font. While this is kind of okay of the fonts look similar, it isn't a good solution because not all fonts are designed to work well with each other, and my main goal in this quest is to avoid having to "borrow" from another font when the default font can't display a glyph properly. (Meiryo and iYaHei kiiinda look similar, so it isn't that bad, but if one day I decided to set my default gtk font to serif for some reason then I'll have problems for sure.) If somehow the system was able to tell if the text was Japanese or Chinese and use the appropriate font, that would be good, but I am aware that that sort of magic is impossible.
I want the computer to be able to use the correct font when some program specifies the text is in that language (perhaps by the locale, or perhaps by the other magic method niconico uses), but I want the english locale to use iYaHei for everything just to be safe because it works.
I have tried doing something like:
<match>
<test name="lang" compare="contains">
<string>en</string>
</test>
<test name="family">
<string>sans-serif</string>
</test>
<edit name="family" mode="prepend" binding="same">
<string>DejaVu Sans</string>
<string>iYaHei</string>
<string>Malgun Gothic</string>
<string>Kartika</string>
<string>Arial Unicode MS</string>
</edit>
</match>
Hoping that that would allow iYaHei to be used as the main fallback while using an English locale, but that doesn't happen; it still uses Meiryo for Kana, but it uses WenQuanYi Zen Hei for Chinese, which looks even worse than Meiryo and iYaHei.
So now I'm debating whether to use the new configurations or the old configurations. The new configurations fix a few things in Japanese locales, but cause a possibly grave problem in non-Japanese locales. I'm sure it has a few other effects too, but I didn't notice them yet.
What exactly is this fontconfig format supposed to do? Because it clearly isn't "setting a priority list for fonts to be used in a certain language". It seems more like "setting a priority list for fonts that are labelled as a certain language". Or maybe it just does some random stuff to the fonts described. I can't tell.
The core of the problem seems to be in the fonts themselves. Somehow, these fonts are claiming to cover "Chinese, Japanese, Korean" etc etc and while they probably do that, most can only cover 1 language in an acceptable way. Where do the fonts store this information? Is there a way to edit this?
Last edited by sokuban (2009-12-04 19:24:41)

Downloaded some fonts (otf/ttf), but they won't delete once in the TB?

I got my 15" macbook pro with 8GB of RAM just two days ago, and am loving it!
I'm a photoshop-type person, so I naturally decided to download some fonts. They were either in the .oft (opentype) or .ttf (truetype) format, both of which are acceptable. They went into the downloads stack; each one, I clicked on and then Fonts Book opened to install it. I installed the fonts and then once they were installed, I deleted the files from the Downloads stack. When they were in my trash bin, I went to delete them but it said they were already in use...?
Should I just move the files from the Downloads stack to a new folder specifically for downloaded fonts, somewhere else on the macbook's drive? From what I've tried, it's not possible to delete them.

As for free downloads to play with: unfortunately, the FontDiner ones are all commercial and thus not free...
They do have some free fonts. At the bottom of the first page (after the lead in page), click the "Free Silverware" link at the bottom. The fonts that come up on that page are all free.
I downloaded four of those fonts at random. All work as expected. That doesn't prove though that the Holiday Ranch font doesn't have something wrong with it.
Kurt, as I noted above, I already did empty all font cache files and restart. Unfortunately, that did not fix the problem.
Oops! Sorry, missed that.
So I think the problem is not that there's anything wrong with my OS, but rather that the person who made the font simply goofed when giving it a name!
It seems to point that way, but you're seeing the issue across fonts from different vendors. I would believe it's either the OS, or Font Book itself.
Your tagline shows you're running 10.6.4. Download and reinstall the 10.6.4 Combo updater. It's surprising how many problems go away when applying the combos.

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