Decorations outside cluster - part of cluster or not?

LabVIEW 8.6.1.f1
If I have a cluster on a panel, and I have a decoration (a flat frame, for example) behind it, then if I hide the cluster, the whole frame appears.
That's just what I would expect.
If I build a cluster in the CONTROL EDITOR, and put a flat frame outside of, and behind, the cluster, and call it a TYPEDEF, then when I put an instance on the panel, and hide the cluster, I see no frame.  It's just not there.
Why?
The DECOS[ ] property of the cluster won't help - it's not part of the cluster.  But if it's not part of the cluster, why does it get hidden with it? 
Message Edited by CoastalMaineBird on 07-21-2009 12:58 PM
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 You'd see the same thing with a boolean or a numeric or any other data type instead. 
True, but since I encountered the problem while dealing with a cluster (container), the "container" characteristics led me down the wrong path. 
A custom control must have one and only one control/indicator to define a basic data type.
Decorations are attached to it, but not necessarily contained by it.
Once defined in the control editor, the thing is a whole unit, decorations and all.
If you can get references to pieces of it (decorations included), then you can deal with them separately (if it's not a STRICT typedef).
You cannot get references to decorations outside a container.
I think that about covers the rules. 
Thanks, Nathan 
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