Default Environment layer ?

Hey, does anyone know how I can specify which Environment layer gets new objects if/when they're created by Track->Create Multiple... ?
I've played around with inserting and deleting layers, and I haven't yet found a reliable way to control where these new objects go.
Thanks!
James
[email protected]
Dual 1.25 G4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

JN, see my post in your other thread. I think there's something screwy going on with "create multiple".

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I did a quick search for this topic on the forums but couldnt find anything (still havnt gotten the hang of apples search features I guess). I also couldnt find any info in the manual, so I'm hoping you wonderful Logic gurus can help me out!
I'm currently redoing my Template to have access to all possible instruments/sounds, some of which require their own routing system with auxes, multi-instruments etc. Thus I have placed many of these instruments in their own layers (i.e. Stylus RMX layer, Kontakt 2 multi layer, DKFH multi layer, MIDI Instruments layer, etc). The problem is that the layers are listed by "last created" in the environment while alphabetical in the arrange listings, which always makes me "double take" when looking for an instrument quickly (which can be quite distracting).
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That's the way I like it, but other tastes differ. I
like to know on what and where I'm putting my audio,
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is and of they go.
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