Delete entire backup of retired mac?

I've read the very helpful FAQs here but am still not getting anywhere with this issue...
1. I have a new iMac.
2. I've successfully migrated all of my files to that new iMac from my Time Capsule backup.
3. I've handed down my old iMac to my wife whose older iMac fried.
4. I've successfully migrated all of her files to my old iMac.
5. I'm now doing my Time Machine backups to a new 2TB drive and that's going perfectly so far.
6. The rest of the family (4 Macs) are still doing backups to the networked Time Capsule.
7. Most of the space on that Time Capsule is taken up by my old iMac's files which are now all on my new Time Machine backup and not needed.
Question: how do I delete my old backups from the family Time Capsule?
I can't seem to bring up other backups on the Time Capsule volume no matter what I do, including Option-select to Browse Other Time Machine Disks. I'm banging my head and would be incredibly eager for any guidance.

Lyssa wrote:
Excellent!
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Via iWeb of course!
I'm looking to do something similar for my "switcher" friends and would liketo put up my various self-help/FAQ-type documents so they can go to my website instead of e-mailing me all the time :P
Sounds like a good project!
I'm a newbie to iWeb, but would be glad to exchange ideas, etc. Being a bit paranoid about email addresses, go to my Contact page and send me an email. That's obviously an alias, but will get to me, & I'll reply with my real one.

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