Depreciation ares

Hello all,
I have a question regarding the depreciation ares. We have (besides the others) one for revaluations and one for statutory reporting. But what we want is the depreciation for a revaluated asses to finish at the same time as that in the statutory. How is that possible?
Regards,
Niki

let me explain a bit more in detail - the revaluation area posts the delta between the APC value and the "new" value and when you revalue an asset usually it is at some point during the lifecycle of the asset, not in the beggining hence you cannot simply put the same useful life for the revaluation. Anyway, the answer is quite simple, its available in SAP help - there is a "takeover between depreciation areas" - You can allow for depreciation areas to adopt APC, as well as depreciation terms, from another depreciation area. You can also specify that the takeover is mandatory, and that no changes are allowed. In this way, you ensure that two areas are always supplied with the same values when posting, or that two areas are uniformly depreciated.

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We are implementing asset accounting to few of our company codes as a new company code start up project. We have opened depreciation areas for tax for one company code and found that we are not going to use this company code for asset accounting.
We have already opened 2 depreciation areas one for tax and the other as difference between book and tax depr in our development client. One of our member has created an asset and posted values to it. Now, we were told that we dont need to open the depreciation areas. When i am trying to delete it system giving error message saying you cannot delete the derived depr as the values have already been posted.
Please advice how i should proceed with the above issue for deleting the depreciation areas. Your help is much appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Hi Rose,
For the below mentioned issue do the following:
1) reset all the depreciation data ( t code OAGL)
2) reset all the asset account co code data (t code OABL)
then u can go and delete the depreciation areas.
regards,
Kiran

Unable to assign the depreciation area to co. code

Hi,
I am getting the below message
Inconsistency between FI company code BHEL and chart of deprec. BHEL
Message no. AC481
Diagnosis
You tried to assign chart of depreciation BHEL to company code BHEL. According to its Customizing definition, this company code manages parallel currencies.
The chart of depreciation does not contain a corresponding depreciation area for each of the currency types that are defined in the company code.
System Response
This assignment is not possible.
Procedure
1. Check the currency types of the company code.
2. Specify a corresponding depreciation area for each currency type.
Please any one explain the way to resolve.
Thanks,
Rajesh.

Hello Rajesh,
Please search the asset accounting forum. A lot has been written on this very question already. I would have included a link but I have noticed that, sometimes when I answer a question, someone for some obvious reason deletes the question or subject to which I provided an answer.
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Elias

Write up an asset for a depreciation area

Hi All,
We have 2 Depreciation areas 01 for local, 02 for IAS.
I try to write up as asset with t-code ABZU, but it only takes effect for area 01.
My problem is how to write up an asset which takes effect for area 02 only?
Thanks.
Claude

Hi - First determine the transaction type that you are using in ABZU. Eg you use transaction type 700.
Go to tcoe OAXE ( limit transactions per deprecation area) and select the area 02 for display for selection. You can select the always post option if this transaction type should always post for this depreciation area.
Thanks,
Zaid Azam

Fixed asset Write up Error. ABZU(Parallel depreciation area 32 is not poste

Hi Sap Gurus,
      I am running into an error when trying to post a write up via "ABZU". Here is the error message "Parallel depreciation area 32 is not posted". Message no. AA565.
Diagnosis
The asset to be posted does not manage parallel depreciation area 32, or transaction type that you are using is limited to certain depreciation areas, and does not contain depreciation area 32. This is incorrect.
System Response
Posting is rejected.
Procedure
Check the asset and the transaction type.
I tried "Limit Transaction Types to Depreciation Areas" in t-code:OAXE for derpeciation area 01 and 32 but still i am getting the same error. I am using ttype:700. When i look into derpeciation tab in asset master record i have depreciation area 32 is there. Is there any configuration piece i am missing. We are using area 32 as IFRS in group which is copy of 01.
Any help will be appreciate.
Thanks and Regards,
Babu

Hi,
There are the following reasons:
1) The wrong transaction type is being used. Please verify that you are using transaction type in the 700 series for your write-up.
2) The transaction type is restricted to certain depreciation areas.   In transaction OAXE the transaction type can be restricted to post only to certain areas. If the asset manages a parallel area you have to extend the posting to include the parallel area.
3) The asset was created before you introduced parallel currencies and does not manage the parallel area. In this case, the parallel area must be created on the asset or the values need to be transferred to a new asset that manages the parallel area.
4) Transacion types 600 and 601 can only be used for assets that have a calculation key in their depreciation area that allows no automatic calculation (for example depr key MANU). The unplanned transaction types however can be used with assets that allow automatic calculation.
You also need to verify that there are entries in Table ANLB for the asset in question for the depreciation area.
5) Your company code uses parallel currencies (currency types 10-co.code currency, 50-Index based currency, 30-Group currency...for example). The assets created in this company code must have the depreciation areas for parallel currencies active. You can only do this in activating the depreciation areas with parallel currencies for all the asset classes used in this company code.
Check transaction OAYZ to make sure the areas are activated for all asset classes in the co.code. If not, you will need to       activate these areas and ensure the asset has all areas assigned.
regards Bernhard

How to get Depreciation key independant from Depreciation area

Hello,
We are using two depreciation areas 01 book depreciation and 15 Tax, in our asset class we have put for both the same depreciation key (GD50) but with a different uselife for every depreciation area
Now when we create a new asset (AS01) intially the correct uselife appears ( tab depreciation area) but apparently when i want to change the one for depreciation area 01 its also changed in depreciation area 15 - how can we avoid that 15 is 'linked' to 01?
Many thanks

Dear janbritt
Unflag your Dpr Area in OABD.
Reagrds

No depreciation areas have been defined for asset 10001-2

Hi,
While creating Goods Receipt(MIGO) the following error is showing
"No depreciation areas have been defined for asset 10001-2"
Could u plz, suggest me what i have to do.
Thanks in Advance,
Sudheer.

Hi
Goto Asset Master TCode AS02 / Depreciation area tab and check depreciation areas have been defined for asset 10001-2" or not.
Cheers
Srinvias

Updating fully depreciated assets during creation of subsequent depreciation area

I am subsequently adding multiple depreciation areas in SAP. The system has been live for many years with a legacy system handling the depreciation for the tax books via dual maintenance. I have been able to bring in the new areas via AFBN without issue except for one thing. Many of these assets are fully depreciated in Book01 in SAP but they have remaining tax life. The problem is when the asset is fully depreciated and I assign it cost or try to make a change in the depreciation area tab it automatically fully depreciates those values.
Has anyone ran into this before? What options are there to provide a solution?
To recap; Want to add tax book values to assets already live in SAP. Issue is assets already fully depreciated. Any adjustment to keys and UL on them results in a calculation but regardless it fully depreciates whatever that amount will be.
Many thanks,
Jack

Hi Jack,
I suppose, there are some settings somewhere, which do not allow the asset to have values.
Presumption:
1) AFAMA - Base method -Treatment of end of life: In the depreciation key: there is not "dep. after pland. life end" allowed
2) In OADB there are wrong settings (perhaps no positive acquisition values allowed)
3) Perhaps this is constitutional area and in OADB there is rule for the derived area which is broken.
Best regards Bernhard

Creation of assets in only one depreciation area.

hi
We have a request to create several assets for an existing asset class (some of them with capitalization date in the past) such that the values reflect only in the local GAAP depreciation area 22.
For example here is the requirement
Asset Class     Asset     Description      Period      Year     Amount     Cost center     Comment
1000     NEW     ABCD     1     2006     50000.00     12345     New asset for dep area 22
1000     NEW     PQRS     2     2006     75000.00     67890     New asset for dep area 22
Can someone please provide the steps do it

Try AS91 to create and OASV to accounting depreciation

Creation of depreciation area for posting of parallel currencies postings

while i am posting f-90 asset e. auqsiation its giving error massage
"Customizing inconsistency (contact your system administrator)
Message no. AC496
Diagnosis
Company code BP01 manages parallel currencies in Asset Accounting. For each area that posts automatically online to FI, you have to define one dependent depreciation area that adopts both identical values and depreciation terms from depreciation area 01, and which is assigned to currency type 60 and currency INR. There is no depreciation area of this type defined for depreciation area 01.
Procedure
Check your Customizing settings."

Hi Venkat,
Create a New Depreciation area with APC Values and Depn values identical to Value 01.
Then goto valuation> currencies
Specify the Use of Parallel Currencies> and assign the currency type and valuation view to the new depn area. tick the identical values
then goto
Define Depreciation Areas for Foreign Currencies> give the parallel currency against the depn area
Now try doing the transaction.
Please revert back if you still have any issues.
Thanks,
Vamsi

New Depreciation Area tobe added to the existing Assets

Hi,
I had Run OAYZ to activate a depreciation area for a Asset Class
I run AFBN to add this new depreciation area to the existing assets.
When I go to Assets Explorer (AW01N) I get following area
Values for Ordinary deprec. have changed in dep. area 13 in fiscal year 2007
    Message no. AU390
Diagnosis
    Depreciation terms were changed in depreciation area 13 since the last
    time depreciation was recalculated. The values for Ordinary deprec. that
    were saved in the database in fiscal year 2007 are therefore different
    from the newly calculated values by an amount of
    476.41-.
Procedure
    Check if the newly calculated values are correct. If they are, then
    carry out a depreciation recalculation. You should be aware that if you
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    years, and these would then have to be posted to the general ledger by
means of a depreciation posting run.
If, on the other hand, you want to keep the values that are saved in the
database, you have to set the depreciation terms back to how they were
at the time of the last depreciation recalculation.
To see a comparison of the old and new values, you can use the Display
dep. calc. function in the asset value display or the Recalculate values
function in the Asset Accounting menu.
Proceed
Now if I try to click on proceed and recalculate the depreciation (AFAR) the system gives error
40001        0    WRK SURF FOR RDQ WRKPROJCT RMS-RSCH DATA OP.   2007 Error
in dep. calculation
    Message no. BL001
Pl. guide me for the same.
REgards,
Sanjay Soni
[email protected]

Hi Sanjay,
Execute T Code AFBN and add the new depreciation areas to the existing assets. This will add the new dep area to all the assets under the particular char of depreciation.
regards
Sridhar

New Depreciation Area - AFBN

Dear Experts,
My user has given a new scenario where we have to calculate tax depreciation for assets transferred from US books to SG books. When the transfers were executed, the tax depreciation area was not set up in the SG books' Chart of Depreciation. We do have other company codes assigned to the same chart of depreciation. For these other company codes, tax depreciation calculation is not required. In addition, the transferred assets and the assets in the other company codes share the same asset classes. The requirement is that we want to calculate the tax depreciation in the SG book only but not the other company codes.
Initially, we are looking at setting up the tax depreciation area in the SG book and activate the depreciation area via AFBN (program RAFABNEW). This will activate the tax depreciation area for all existing assets under the chart of depreciation/asset class assignment. However, we found out that we could not deactivate the depreciation area in the existing assets in the other company codes. This is regardless of whether we activate the field XAFBE (deactivate depreciation area) in the depreciation area layout. Seems that this only works with new assets.
Would like to seek your advice on the options available other than creating new asset classes for these transferred assets.
Is it possible to enhance the program RAFABNEW to include company code and asset classes?
Thank you.

This is another option that I used on that scenario, but it is up to you if you want to follow the same approach. We created a custom program that will put a temporary deactivation date on the assets the we do not want to extend the new book. Basically this is direct update on field ANLA-DEACTIV.
Then we run AFBN, since the assets are deactivated, new depreciation area will not be created on these assets, but only on those assets that are active.
Then you can set the deactivation date again back to "Blank" after you run AFBN.
Thanks!
Jhero

Link-Group Asset Class, Depreciation Area & Depreciation Key

Dear Experts,
I am new to FI-AA Customization & have a basic query about Group Asset Concept.
I am working on Ecc 6.0 & for Country India.
I want to create Group Asset for calculation of Depreciation as per Income Tax Act. Hence there is just one Depreciation Area (for Group Assets) , but the Depreciation keys are different. E.d IN1, IN2 etc. (Country Version India)
Now the questions are :
1) Do we need to create different Asset Class for different Group Assets or to create just 1 Asset Class for all Group Assets.
E.g. I want to calculate Depreciation As per income Tax Act on Gross Block of Building, Furniture & Fixture, Motor Car, Vehicles etc. So I need to create separate Group Asset Class for each one of above or just to create one Group Asset Class.
2) If we need to create just one Asset Class for all Group Assets; how to maintain a Depreciation Key in OAYZ as there are more than 1 Depreciation Keys?
3) is there any other method / functionality to calculate Depreciation as per income Tax Act or Group Asset is the only functionality?
Thanks & Regards,
Reshma

Dear,
Reshma.
Looking at your Questions let us take explanation for Group Assets :-
1 ) We need to create new different asset class for Group Class in OAOA. Then permit the depreciation area for only Group Asset in OAYM as it is in your current scenario India is Depreciation Area 15 Just select your company code in OAYM and check the Grp Asset field for respective area 15. Then go to OAAX here we have to maintain the assets classes particularly for Group Assets. So check your Group Asset classes for Group Assets. Cerate different Group asset classes for your said requirement.
In these depreciation areas, it is then possible to make an assignment to a group asset. You make this assignment in the specifications for the depreciation area in the asset master record. When you post an acquisition to this kind of asset, the system duplicates the line items from this depreciation area on the given group asset.
2 ) According to me you have to create different depreciation keys for Group Asset classes. Assign the Depreciation keys to your newly created Group Asset Classes in OAYZ and make sure you are deactivating 01 area which is Book Depreciation area.
3 ) As far as I know this is the only functionality available to handle Group Assets. How ever SAP does not have any standard Group Assets functionality. SAP does not supply asset classes to be used solely for group assets. It is we have to determine as per varying Business Process.
I hope this will clear your doubt makes you to understand. Please revert back for further clarification. Welcome you.
Regards,
Pankaj A Bhalerao.
Edited by: pankaj_ab on Feb 3, 2010 8:26 AM

Depreciation calculation for Indian Tax Depreciation Area - Fixed Assets

Can any one of you kindly advice how to setup the Multi levels methods and Period controls for Tax Depreciation key in Indian Tax Depreciation area.
My Leading ledger Fiscal year: Jan u2013 Dec (Year dependend)
And Non-leading ledger (India) Fiscal year: April u2013 March (Year dependend)
I was able to post correct depreciation for leading and non-leading ledger Depreciation areas with a stated percentage. But the calculation of Tax depreciation area is incorrect.
As per client requirement, Tax depreciation area is setup only reporting purpose and no Depreciation posting.
Required Depreciation Calculation for Tax Depreciation Area:
For Acquires & Additions,
Rule1:
If it is >=180 days (as per Non-leading ledger Fiscal year) the system should calculate depreciation as stated percentage. Eg: 10%
Rule2:
If it is <180 days (as per Non-leading ledger Fiscal year) the system should calculate depreciation of 50% on stated percentage. Eg: Stated percentage is 10%, then it should be 5%.
Early responses will be appreciated.
Thanks much for the help.
Regards,
Bapu

Hi JBC,
please search this Forum, I think basic questions about Indian tax depreciation have been asked dozen of times in this Forum here. You should find some answers in earlier threads.
Regards,
Markus

Depreciation calculation for Indian Tax Depreciation Area

Can any one of you kindly advice how to setup the Multi levels methods and Period controls for Tax Depreciation key in Indian Tax Depreciation area.
My Leading ledger Fiscal year: Jan u2013 Dec (Year dependend)
And Non-leading ledger (India) Fiscal year: April u2013 March (Year dependend)
I was able to post correct depreciation for leading and non-leading ledger Depreciation areas with a stated percentage. But the calculation of Tax depreciation area is incorrect.
As per client requirement, Tax depreciation area is setup only reporting purpose and no Depreciation posting.
Required Depreciation Calculation for Tax Depreciation Area:
For Acquires & Additions,
Rule1:
If it is >=180 days (as per Non-leading ledger Fiscal year) the system should calculate depreciation as stated percentage. Eg: 10%
Rule2:
If it is <180 days (as per Non-leading ledger Fiscal year) the system should calculate depreciation of 50% on stated percentage. Eg: Stated percentage is 10%, then it should be 5%.
Early responses will be appreciated.
Thanks much for the help.
Regards,
JBC

Hi JBC,
please search this Forum, I think basic questions about Indian tax depreciation have been asked dozen of times in this Forum here. You should find some answers in earlier threads.
Regards,
Markus

Use of Different Fiscal Year Variant-Statistical Depreciation Area Postings

An existing Company Code in SAP is going to have Fixed Assets implemented. This Company Code is setup just like the others in our SAP instance: Same Chart of Accounts, Same Fiscal Year Variant, Fixed Asset procedures, etc. For purposes of this question our company's Fiscal Year is from August 1st to July 31st. In addition, this Company Code will post Fixed Assets just like the other SAP enabled Company Codes into Book Depreciation Area 01. The company I work with is on ECC 6 but we use the Classic Ledger for Financials, and the Special Ledger is posted to but not really utilized.
For the Country Specific/Tax Reporting purposes within Fixed Asset Accounting we have created a Statistical Depreciation Area 03 (I will call it Tax) with its own Life and Depreciation Key assignments with a setting of 0 in OADB-No Posting in GL for this Fixed Asset go-live, so I think we are set there. The tricky part comes in the reporting. The country in question requires information to be generated on a Calendar Year basis, which is obviously different than the Fiscal Year outlined above. To my knowledge we would have to assign Tax Depreciation Area 03 to the Calendar Fiscal Year Variant: Financial Accounting>>Asset Accounting>>Valuation>>Fiscal Year>>Fiscal Year Variants>>Specify Other Versions on Depreciation Area Level.
The other piece of this is to get the Fixed Asset Reporting for Tax Depreciation Area 03 to work on a Calendar Year basis for the Company Code in question. When I did some research I stumbled upon the link below. In summary it says that you have to manipulate the standard Fixed Assets reports in Excel for Asset Acquisitions and Depreciation, and setup a new Retirement routine/transaction for posting into the Special Depreciation Area.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/05/bc0bf3d8f811d1953e0000e82debf7/content.htm
My questions are:
1) Besides assigning a different Fiscal Year Variant for Tax Depreciation Area 03, is there anything else I need to worry about on the setup end?
2) Is the article I posted accurate when it comes to how the reporting works and the need for setting up a Calendar Year specific Asset Retirement Routine? If so, what are the configuration steps for setting up a Calendar Year specific Asset Retirement Routine?
3) Is there anything else that I need to consider for enabling Fixed Assets at an existing Company Code with different Reporting requirements for Book/Tax purposes?
Thanks in advance for all responses. I am willing to answer any other questions on this subject if needed.
Roman

Hello Rio. In our scenario, we still had to load assets in the legal entity with this issue. When we loaded the fixed asset data into SAP we did with data accurate as of December 31, 2011; which for book purposes is 5 months into our company's fiscal year, and for tax purposes is the end of the 2011 calendar year. The calendarized reporting for the tax depreciation will need to be pieced together manually using the SAP recommended methodology of combining report values, which I have pasted below.
Since this is the only SAP-enabled entity that has this scenario right now we are in wait and see mode to see if this sufficient. In the end the SAP path for Dual Calendar was too much of a risk.
I hope this helps.
Roman
Asset Acquisitions
Run the acquisitions list. Report date: 7/31/2012. Posting Date: 1/1/2012 to 7/31/2012. Export the report to MS Excel.
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Run the retirements list. Report date: 7/31/2012. Posting Date: 1/1/2012 to 7/31/2012. Export the report to MS Excel.
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Run the depreciation list. Report date: 7/31/2012. Export the report to MS Excel.
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Run the depreciation list. Report date: 12/31/2012. Export the report to MS Excel.
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