Designer 9i reverse engineer my database

I have Designer 9i with repository on Oracle 9i server.
I would like to reverse engineer my database from Oracle 8.17 server on a different computer - connection.
How do I do that? Beging from scratch, what do I need, do I need to create new Application system? I probably would need one... Can I connect this specific applicatino system to a specific database?
How to get the tables (and other objects)?
What tool do I use? Database design transformer says - I don't have any entities in a.s.
Entity relationship diagramer - that would be for designing probably, not for reverse engineering.
Please help
Thanks

Rok
You can do everything you have asked.
The best way is to do the following:
- Create an application system and name it appropriately.
- Use the Design Editor tool
- On the menu there is a option to "Design Capture" (this is reverse engineering).The menu path is Generate/Capture Design of/Server Model
- This will ask you to enter the connect string for the db you want to capture
- Then you will be presented with the objects in that db and you can choose which ones you want to capture
The rest is simple from there.
To help you I would suggest you go to the URL http://otn.oracle.com/products/designer/demos.htm on this site and at the bottom of the
page is a demo section on Server Design and Generation. Take a look at the one titled: Capturing Database Designs in the Design Editor
This will demo the step above. The other demos may also be useful as you want to change the data model or generate new schemas
Regards
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