Detail preserving upscale effect and video bitrate

Hi
When I make a Detail-preserving Upscale effect on after effects CC do you think it's useful to increase bitrate to help preserving detail or I can maintain the original bitrate because it will not change nothing in the processus ?
For example
I have avchd 1920x1080p 28 MBitrate clips , and I want to upscale them to 4096x2304 (4K) , when exporting to queue or media encoder can I preserve the original bitrate 28 Mbps or should I increase to higher bitrate (like 50 Mbps) to help the detail preserving?

What is your intent for these files once you're done upscaling them?

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Hi all:
This was the effect I have been waiting for - as I am working on a Lacrosse highlight video - and some of the footage was not zoomed in when it was shot (AVCD 1440x1080 29.97 fps).
I have tried the new effect on a clip, and cannot get a much better outcome than when I just scaled the clip up in PPro. Just trying to have clear footage without halos/ringing effect...
I have watched the short video about the effect - http://tv.adobe.com/watch/adobe-at-ibc-2013/after-effects-cc-detailpreserving-upscale/
And also read this short help piece on the effect - http://helpx.adobe.com/after-effects/using/detail-preserving-upscale-effect.html
Neither of which have really addressed upscaling/zooming in on video - and which adjustments to the effect will give the desired result.
Is there anything else out there yet for me to read/watch? Does anyone have any pointers for me?
Thanks for any help you can provide - as always
Kim

my comment is that I am in early stages of researching this detail preserving effect and have not seen the links you have posted above. Nice. I did see another post and one of the staff posted a link, maybe same one - never seen it either (yet).
My plans with the effect is for HD material panned and zoomed for SD - to upscale that SD into HD. Some of the HD would not be panned and zoomed and would still have the HD capabilities, but other footage is zoomed 200% (doubled).
So, you are from November I see - you must be a pro by now. Don't worry, not asking for advice on something I have not even tried yet. I am still in the early stages and hope you have progressed with your upscaling abilities.

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Hello house,
I recently needed to use the detail preserving upscale effect for a project but it seems my version of After Effects CC does not have it. How can I go about getting it please?
Thank you.

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My goal is to take a 720x480 60i DV file (non square pixel) and upscale to 960x720 60p square pixel for YouTube upload.
My workflow seems to work, except I'm not quite getting the correct aspect ratio at the end. I'm getting an extra 5 pixels on the bottom and top of my image so it's being squished by a total of 10 pixels. I have uploaded a screen capture to demonstrate this. In case the image preview doesn't work here's a Flickr URL:
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8623/16158021066_e52966ff22_o.jpg
On the left is a simple AE scale, I dragged the DV file into a timeline, and used the scale command to change the pixel resolution to 960x720 so the DV file stretches to fill the 4:3 frame as it should. Remember, I'm trying to get the DV file to square pixel aspect ratio for online viewing. On the right is the result of my workflow below using AE CC and detail preserving upscale. The 5 pixel gray bars are part of the movie file.
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Click fit width
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Thanks for the reply Mylenium. Typically I do separate operations like this using pre-composing but I found it made no difference so I removed that step in my original workflow so save work.
I'm not sure what "crooked HDV/ IMX values" means, can you elaborate?
If you mean my frame size of 960x720 this is the minimum that YouTube will need for a 4:3 video to generate a 60p video. They don't want 4:3 videos encoded in 16:9 wrappers and they have good reasons for this.
I'll say for the sake of simplicity to forget all about the 60p conversion here and focus on the 4:3 non square PAR conversion using the DPU (detail preserving upscale). I was able to accomplish this but it requires me re-scaling the video in After Effects first... to either 640x480 or 720x540 square pixel... but I'm just trying to avoid this additional scaling operation.

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When combining audio and video, how does the bitrate of the audio affect the calculation of the total bitrate? If I set my video compression bitrate at 5.5/7.5, how should those numbers be altered if I have, say, two Dolby Digital 2.0 streams at 192kbs each and a 5.1 surround stream at 448kbs?

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The maximum video bit rate allowed on SD-based DVDs is 9.8 Mbps, but rarely is that practical to use since DVD players support combined video, audio, and subtitle bit rates of up to 10.08 Mbps. For HD-based DVDs, the maximum video bit rate is 29.4 Mbps for HD assets and 15.0 Mbps for any SD assets used in an HD project, with an overall maximum bit rate of 30.24 Mbps.
In practice, you should be conservative when determining how high of a bit rate to allow for. Trying to squeeze out the highest possible bit rate for your project can lead to player compatibility and disc space issues. A general recommendation is to not exceed 9.2 Mbps for the combined video and audio bit rates when authoring SD projects, or 29 Mbps when authoring HD projects.
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Note: Even though you can only play one audio stream at a time, the bit rates of all audio streams must be added together when determining the overall bit rate for a track. Similarly, all subtitle streams must be added together and added to the overall bit rate.
Using AC-3 audio in place of the PCM audio leaves far more room for the video bit rate. Stereo AC-3 audio using typical settings requires only about 224 kbps—using two stereo AC-3 streams in place of the PCM audio leaves about 9.6 Mbps for the video.
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I have cross dissolve transitions set between images and videos, and I have the pan/zoom hold setting at "0." Despite the "0" setting, my images are static until the cross dissol

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