Developing an application for PC & mobiles

I want to develop a Java application that will be used for PC and mobile phones.
I will use JavaSE as a platform, and Eclipse as IDE this is for the PC version
for the mobile version:
should I use Java Wireless Toolkit (JavaME) or JavaSE is enough?
should I use EclipseME or Eclipse is enough?
Thanks in advance.

The mobile version will have to be created in Java ME.
db

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Yes. MDM tools are perfect fit for these. Afaria and Mocana are doing well now.
And, anything that you would like to share, related to SAPs environment, that makes implementation easier.
SAP Mobility is really booming and will grow , dominate in enterprise mobility in future.
For our understanding:
Let us know for more.
Edit :
IG is a part of SMP 3 but not a separate component as NWG
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Virinchy
Message was edited by: Virinchy P

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