Diff. types of Third Party Sales?

Hi All,
what r different types of Third party Sales?
One i know is high Sea Sales ????
Correct me if i am wrong.
Reg,
Amol

Hi,
There are two types of 3rd party sales
1) Vendor drop shipment (Vendor will directly deliver the stock to the customer)
In this scenario no GR will be done
2) 3rd party sales via individual purchase order (Which is creation of PO and receive the stock from the vendor which in turn deliver the stock to the customer )
In this scenario GR will be done
Thank you,
Ram
Edited by: Ram 1979 on Jan 11, 2010 12:46 PM

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VPRS condition type in Third party sales

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We have the following scenario for 3rd party sales:
1. SO is created which generates a PR
2. PO is created. Example below
Base price - 100
Freight - 10
Insurance - 10
3. GR is done with below a/c entry
COGS Dr 120
Clearing Cr 120
4. IR is done (Regular a/c entry)
4. Billing - At the time of billing, i expect that system should pass 120 to VPRS value field in COPA (100+10+10 from PO), however, it is only passing 100 (Base price from PO). Any adivse how to fix this
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Shiv

Hi,
Also, go through the below customized settings for cost + other value to be updated in the VPRs
condition type.
In Pricing, you may want to compare the prices with costs or even implement contribution margin accounting.
To do this, you can use the condition type VPRS as the cost price.
The condition type VPRS goes into the valuation segment in the material master and determines from this the standard price or average price.
Settings in Customizing
The condition type VPRS is labeled as a statistical condition in the pricing procedure.
Using the condition category G, the condition type VPRS goes into the valuation segment of the material master and determines from here the standard or average price.
The condition category S always accesses the standard price whereas condition category T always accesses the average price.
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Movement type in third party order

dear expert
pls tell me what is the movement type is used in third party order.
from
vicky

There would be no movement type for third party sales if the vendor is sending the material directly to the customer.
If you think logically the movement type is "the actual movement of goods" that is mapped in sap when we do the PGI.
Since we are not doing any delivery in the case of above explained(i.e. material from Vendor --> Customer ),there would be no chance to think about movement type.
So if you check the standard schedule line category CS in VOV6, you cant find any movement type assigned to it(fact is thats not at all required in this case).
There is also one more case in third party sales where vendor sends material directly to the company, in this case its company's responsibility to send that material to the customer(i.e.Material from Company-->Customer).
Here company will be doing delivery and PGI(actual movement of goods starts here) and they will invoice to the customer is well.
In this case we need movement type.
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I am configuring third party for the first time.
Gone through the search.
The order type NB is missing in my standard list of sales documents. Item cat TAS & sch line cat CS is there.
Pl suggest how do I go ahead to complete configuration?
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santosh.

Hi
You can use Or or copy OR and can name as ZOR and use for third party
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So any order type you can take in VOV8
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In VOV7 we define controls for TAS mainly billing relevance as F and automatic PO ticked
In VOV5 for this TAS and MRP type of the item as per MMR we define schedule line category as CS
In VOV5 we define controls for schedule line category CS
Main settings
1. order type NB (the po type to be triggered)
2.Item category as 5 (third party)
3.Account assignment category as X
These controls whole process
In MMR also purchasing view automatic PO check box to be ticked
If you ensure these settings then when you save a sales order with order type OR or any others a Automatic PO will be created
Regards
Raja

Third Party Sale- Move ment type

Hii,
In third party sale, when e do MIGO what is the movement type we should take. (in case of individual purchase order scenario we take Mov type as 101, where actually we are taking goods into our stock and then delivering it to our customer) but in Third party vendor directly supplies to customer. But he sends an acknowledgement to the company and we do MIGO & MIRO and then directly raise an invoice with ref to order but quantity as per delivery ( billing rev -F). So my doubt is wat movement type we should be taking for thirdparty sale when we do MIGO. (this is only for reference, actually there is inward movement of goods into our stock as the vendor supplies it directly to customer).
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Dear Venkat Rao,
A small search on SDN SD forum will help you to answer your query.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/e6/4a78e39e0311d189b70000e829fbbd/content.htm
THIRD PARTY SALES
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/process-flow-for-3rd-party-sales.htm
http://www.sap.com/services/pdf/BWP_SAP_Best_Practices_for_Wholesale_Distribution.pdf
3rd party biling
http://www50.sap.com/businessmaps/65045A20075E4CFD89DB030BC1C556AD.htm
http://www.saptechies.com/process-flow-for-3rd-party-sales/
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How to configure a new third party sales document type?

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I am new to the SAP world, I need your help in configuring a new third party sales document type for a site.
There are existing third party document types being used in the region, but the client wants an entirely new third party document type that is activated for CREDIT MANAGEMENT.
I just need your inputs, as how to go about it. If I copy from an existing third party sales doc. What additional steps do I need to follow? Like Item category config, copy control settings, and credit management.
Is there a need to create new billing types?
Also as per process, by creating a new document type, how will it affect the logistic processes, if any?
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Hello,
You can create new document type under following customization path
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Define Sales Document Types
Now create new document type by copying the standard document type OR
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which is already defined for third party sales (TAS)
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SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Sales Document Item>>Assign Item Categories
Assignment needs to be done in combination of sales document type and item category group (BANS)
Now
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Sales Documents>>Schedule Lines
Assignment of schedule line is already done as you are using the standard one.
Lastly, you may need to maintain copy control for your newly created sales document type for this go to
SPRO>>Sales and Distribution>>Sales>>Maintain Copy Control for Sales Documents
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Here you can define copy control requirements.
BR,
Tushar

In Third party sales, Part of MM..?

Hi guru's
Can explain about third party sales and what is major part of work for MM in that.
1.Please send me the overall flow in Third party sales process with Transaction codes.
thanks
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THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
in third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
Process Flow
the processing of third-party orders is controlled via material types. Material types define whether a material is produced only internally can be ordered only from third-party vendors, or whether both are possible. For example, a material that is defined as a trading good can only be ordered from a third-party vendor. However, if you manufacture your own finished products, you may also want, from time to time, to be able to order the same type of product from other vendors.
Processing Third-Party Orders in Sales
Third-party items can be created automatically by the system, depending on how your system is set. However, you can also change a standard item to a third-party item during sales processing manually.
Automatic third-party order processing:-
if a material is always delivered from one or more third-party vendors, you can specify in the material master that the material is a third-party item. During subsequent sales order processing, the system automatically determines the appropriate item category for a third-party item: TAS. To specify a material as a third-party item, enter BANS in the Item category group field in the Sales 2 screen of the material master record.
Manual third-party order processing
In the case of a material that you normally deliver yourself but occasionally need to order from a third-party vendor, you can overwrite the item category during sales order processing. For a material that you normally deliver yourself, you specify the item category group NORM in the material master.
If, as an exception, you use a third-party material, change the entry TAN to TAS in the ItCa field when processing the sales document. The item is then processed as third-party item.
If address data for the ship-to party is changed in the sales order in third-party business transactions, the changed data will automatically be passed on to purchase requisition and also to the purchase order ,if one already exists. In the purchase order, you can display the address data for the ship-to party in the attributes for the item.
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when you save a sales order that contains one or more third-party items, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition in Purchasing. Each third-party item in a sales order automatically generates a corresponding purchase requisition item. During creation of the requisition, the system automatically determines a vendor for each requisition item. If a sales order item has more than one schedule line, the system creates a purchase requisition item for each schedule line.
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Billing Third-Party Orders
If relevance for billing indicator for the item category has been set to B (relevant for order-related billing on the basis of the order quantity) in Customizing, the system includes the order in the billing due list immediately. If, however, the indicator has been set to F (relevant to order-related billing on the basis of the invoice quantity), the system does not include the order in the billing due list until an invoice from the vendor has been received and processed by the purchasing department. In the standard system, item category TAS (third-party order processing) has been given billing-relevance indicator F.
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FOR YOUR PROCESS Individual Purchase Orders WELL GIVE THE RIGHT SOLUTION
Individual purchase orders are used when your customer orders goods from you that are not in stock and must be ordered from one or more external vendors.
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During sales order entry, the system automatically creates a purchase requisition item. The purchasing department creates a purchase order based on the requisition and the vendor ships the goods directly to you (unlike third party order processing, where the vendor ships directly to your customer). You then ship the goods to your customer. While the goods are part of your inventory, you manage them as part of the sales order stock. Sales order stock consists of stock that is assigned to specific sales orders and cannot be used for other purposes.
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Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
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purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
assign Purchase org to plant,
should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing *--
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hi
experts,
can any body explain in third party sales where do we see migo, miro, if possible step by step process.
thanks in advance

Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material u2013 Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
The "Process Assignment Create PO" box , enter
Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Clilck on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
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VL01N
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Go to "picking" tab
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Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
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Cost value for third party sales order scenario

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At billing (VF01), the cost being picked up by the system are the value from the PO (PBXX condition type). I would like the system to pick up the entire COGS value (inclusive of freight values) posted at MIGO.
Ex. If Purchase price is 100 and freight is 20, I want 120 (the COGS value) to be shown in the cost field. It currently shows 100.
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I don't want to just raise a credit memo and update the sales side and leave the purchase side open.
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Third Party Return Process
Please check this extract from the sap library :
If the vendor grants you a credit memo on a quantity or a value basis, you can then send this credit memo directly to your customer.
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