Difference Between 720p30pn and 720p30p on HVX-200 for Music Video Shoot

I'm shooting a music video on the HVX-200. I'm new to the camera and the manual offers little explanation as to the difference/advantages/disadvantages between 720p30pn and 720p30p recording format. I want to shoot VFR (variable frame rates) and mix it with the footage which I think only works with the 720p30p recording format.
Does anyone know the differences/advantages/disadvantages of 720p30pn and 720p30p?
As I'm going for the "film look" of 24fps, which setting on the camera do I use? I'm assuming that I use the 720p30 recording format setting and not the 720p24 as I'm obviously not outputting to film, but then again, I could be wrong.
I do know when I was testing the P2 workflow that when I was doing the VFR (variable frame rate), it was unplayable even with rendering on FCP 5.1. I'm sure I had some funky disconnect between the recording frame rate and sequence settings on FCP. Does anyone know which recording format works integrating both footage shot at 1x and variable and what is the corresponding sequence setup settings on FCP?
Thanks for the help.

Why not shoot 720/24pNative for the "film look."
With the default frame setting in the video or the film mode?
You will mimic part of the "film look" out of the cam rather than addressing it in post, and you increase the amount of footage that can be recorded to a p2 card by recording only 24 frames rather than an over 60 recording.
Play with the scene files for the look you want to add to the "film look."
Remember that the shallow DOF characteristic of the "film look" can't be readily achieved with a stock HVX200.

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// Make sure that the frame window is visible.
setVisible (true);
public void actionPerformed (ActionEvent e)
if (e.getActionCommand ().equals ("Delete"))
delete ();
else
if (e.getActionCommand ().equals ("Finish"))
saveCustomers ();
System.exit (0);
else
if (e.getActionCommand ().equals ("Insert"))
insert ();
else
update ();
public Insets getInsets ()
// Return an Insets object that describes the number of
// pixels to reserve as a border around the edges of the
// frame window.
return new Insets (10, 10, 10, 10);
public static void main (String [] args)
// Create a new cm object and let it do its thing.
new pp ();
private void delete ()
// Obtain index of selected customer item from the names
// component.
int index = names.getSelectedIndex ();
// If no item was selected, index is -1. We cannot update
// a contact if no contact item in the names component was
// selected - because we would have nothing to work with.
if (index != -1)
// Remove the customer item from the names component.
names.remove (index);
// Remove the Customer object from the contacts Vector
// object.
customers.remove (index);
// If there are no more customers ...
if (customers.size () == 0)
delete.setEnabled (false);
update.setEnabled (false);
else
// Make sure that the first contact item in the names
// list is highlighted.
names.select (0);
private void insert ()
// Create an Insert data entry form to enter information
// for a new contact.
DataEntryForm def = new DataEntryForm (this, "Insert");
// If the bOk Boolean flag is set, this indicates the user
// exited the form by pressing the Ok button.
if (def.bOk)
// Create a Customer object and assign information from
// the form to its fields.
Customer temp = new Customer ();
temp.name = new String (def.name.getText ());
temp.publication = new String (def.publication.getText ());
temp.address = new String (def.address.getText ());
temp.round = new String (def.round.getText ());
temp.phone = new String
(def.phone.getText ());
// Add a new customer item to the names component.
names.add (temp.publication + ", " + temp.address);
// Add the Customer object to the contacts Vector
// object.
customers.add (temp);
// Make sure that the Delete and Update buttons are
// enabled.
delete.setEnabled (true);
update.setEnabled (true);
// Destroy the dialog box.
def.dispose ();
// Make sure that the first customer item in the names list
// is highlighted.
names.select (0);
// ===========================================================
// Load all customers from customers.dat into the customers
// Vector object. Also, make sure that the last name/first
// name from each contact is combined into a String object and
// inserted into the names component - as a contact item.
// ===========================================================
private void loadCustomers ()
FileInputStream fis = null;
try
fis = new FileInputStream ("customers.dat");
DataInputStream dis = new DataInputStream (fis);
int nCustomers = dis.readInt ();
for (int i = 0; i < nCustomers; i++)
Customer temp = new Customer ();
temp.name = dis.readUTF ();
temp.publication = dis.readUTF ();
temp.address = dis.readUTF ();
temp.round = dis.readUTF ();
temp.phone = dis.readUTF ();
names.add (temp.publication + ", " + temp.address);
customers.add (temp);
if (nCustomers > 0)
delete.setEnabled (true);
update.setEnabled (true);
catch (IOException e)
finally
if (fis != null)
try
fis.close ();
catch (IOException e) {}
// Make sure that the first customer item in the names list
// is highlighted.
names.select (0);
// ========================================================
// Save all customer objects from the contacts Vector object
// to customers.dat. The number of contacts are saved as an
// int to make it easy for loadCustomers () to do its job.
// ========================================================
private void saveCustomers ()
FileOutputStream fos = null;
try
fos = new FileOutputStream ("customers.dat");
DataOutputStream dos = new DataOutputStream (fos);
dos.writeInt (customers.size ());
for (int i = 0; i < customers.size (); i++)
Customer temp = (Customer) customers.elementAt (i);
dos.writeUTF (temp.name);
dos.writeUTF (temp.publication);
dos.writeUTF (temp.address);
dos.writeUTF (temp.round);
dos.writeUTF (temp.phone);
catch (IOException e)
MsgBox mb = new MsgBox (this, "PP Error",
e.toString ());
mb.dispose ();
finally
if (fos != null)
try
fos.close ();
catch (IOException e) {}
private void update ()
// Obtain index of selected customer item from the names
// component.
int index = names.getSelectedIndex ();
// If no item was selected, index is -1. We cannot update
// a customer if no customer item in the names component was
// selected - because we would have nothing to work with.
if (index != -1)
// Obtain a reference to the Customer object (from the
// customer Vector object) that is associated with the
// index.
Customer temp = (Customer) customers.elementAt (index);
// Create and display an update entry form.
DataEntryForm def = new DataEntryForm (this, "Update",
temp.name,
temp.publication,
temp.address,
temp.round,
temp.phone);
// If the user pressed Ok...
if (def.bOk)
// Update the customer information in the customers
// Vector object.
temp.name = new String (def.name.getText ());
temp.publication = new String (def.publication.getText ());
temp.address = new String (def.address.getText ());
temp.round = new String (def.round.getText ());
temp.phone = new String (def.phone.getText ());
// Make sure the screen reflects the update.
names.replaceItem (temp.publication + ", " + temp.address,
index);
// Destroy the dialog box.
def.dispose ();
// Make sure that the first customer item in the names
// list is highlighted.
names.select (0);
// ========================================================
// Class: Customer
// This class describes the contents of a business customer.
// ========================================================
class Customer
public String name;
public String publication;
public String address;
public String round;
public String phone;
// ==========================================================
// Class: DataEntryForm
// This class provides a data entry form for entering customer
// information.
// ==========================================================
class DataEntryForm extends JDialog implements ActionListener
// bOk is a boolean flag. When true, it indicates that
// the Ok button was pressed to terminate the dialog box
// (as opposed to the Cancel button).
public boolean bOk;
// The following components hold the text that the user
// entered into the visible text fields.
public JTextField name;
public JTextField publication;
public JTextField address;
public JTextField round;
public JTextField phone;
public void actionPerformed (ActionEvent e)
// If the user pressed the Ok button, indicate this
// by assigning true to bOk.
if (e.getActionCommand ().equals ("Ok"))
bOk = true;
// Destroy the dialog box and return to the point
// just after the creation of the DataEntryForm object.
dispose ();
public DataEntryForm (JFrame parent, String title)
// Call the other constructor. The current constructor
// is used for insert operations. The other constructor
// is used for update operations.
this (parent, title, "", "", "", "", "");
public DataEntryForm (JFrame parent, String title,
String name, String publication,
String address, String round,
String phone)
// Initialize the superclass layer.
super (parent, title, true);
// Choose a grid bag layout so that components can be more
// accurately positioned. (It looks nicer.)
setLayout (new GridBagLayout ());
// Add appropriate first name, last name, phone, fax, and
// email components to the current DataEntryForm container.
// (Remember, DataEntryForm is a subclass of Dialog.
// Dialog is a container. Therefore, DataEntryForm
// inherits the ability to be a container.)
addComponent (this, new JLabel ("Name: "), 0, 0, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.WEST);
this.name = new JTextField (15);
addComponent (this, this.name, 1, 0, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.CENTER);
if (title.equals ("Update"))
this.name.setText (name);
addComponent (this, new JLabel ("Publications: "), 0, 1, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.WEST);
this.publication = new JTextField (15);
addComponent (this, this.publication, 1, 1, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.CENTER);
if (title.equals ("Update"))
this.publication.setText (publication);
addComponent (this, new JLabel ("Address "), 0, 2, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.WEST);
this.address = new JTextField (15);
addComponent (this, this.address, 1, 2, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.CENTER);
if (title.equals ("Update"))
this.address.setText (address);
addComponent (this, new JLabel ("Round No "), 0, 3, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.WEST);
this.round = new JTextField (15);
addComponent (this, this.round, 1, 3, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.CENTER);
if (title.equals ("Update"))
this.round.setText (round);
addComponent (this, new JLabel ("Phone Number "), 0, 4, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.WEST);
this.phone = new JTextField (15);
addComponent (this, this.phone, 1, 4, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.CENTER);
if (title.equals ("Update"))
this.phone.setText (phone);
addComponent (this, new JLabel (""), 0, 5, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.CENTER);
addComponent (this, new JLabel (""), 1, 5, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.CENTER);
JButton b;
// Add an Ok button to this container.
addComponent (this, b = new JButton ("Ok"), 0, 6, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.CENTER);
b.addActionListener (this);
// Add a Cancel button to this container.
addComponent (this, b = new JButton ("Cancel"), 1, 6, 1, 1,
GridBagConstraints.NONE,
GridBagConstraints.CENTER);
b.addActionListener (this);
// Set the size of the dialog window to 250 pixels
// horizontally by 200 pixels vertically.
setSize (250, 200);
// Do not allow users to resize the dialog window.
setResizable (false);
// Make sure that the dialog window is visible.
setVisible (true);
private void addComponent (Container con, Component com,
int gridx, int gridy,
int gridw, int gridh, int fill,
int anchor)
// Get the current layout manager. It is assumed to
// be a GridBagLayout object.
LayoutManager lm = con.getLayout ();
// Create a GridBagConstraints object to make it
// possible to customize component positioning.
GridBagConstraints gbc = new GridBagConstraints ();
// Assign the x and y grid positions.
gbc.gridx = gridx;
gbc.gridy = gridy;
// Assign the number of grid blocks horizontally and
// vertically that are occupied by the component.
gbc.gridwidth = gridw;
gbc.gridheight = gridh;
// Specify the component's resize policy (fill) and
// the direction in which the component is positioned
// when its size is smaller than available space (anchor).
gbc.fill = fill;
gbc.anchor = anchor;
// Set the new constraints that the grid bag layout
// manager will use.
((GridBagLayout) lm).setConstraints (com, gbc);
// Add the component to the container.
con.add (com);
// ===========================================================
// Class: MsgBox
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// is usually an error message. The user must press the Ok
// button to terminate the message box.
// ===========================================================
class MsgBox extends JDialog implements ActionListener
public void actionPerformed (ActionEvent e)
// Terminate the dialog box in response to the user
// pressing the Ok button.
dispose ();
public MsgBox (JFrame parent, String title, String msg)
// Initialize the superclass layer.
super (parent, title, true);
// Store the msg argument in a Label object and add
// this object to the center part of the dialog window.
JLabel l = new JLabel (msg);
add ("Center", l);
// Create a Button object and add it to the south part
// of the dialog window.
JButton b = new JButton ("Ok");
add ("South", b);
// Make the current object a listener to events that
// occur as a result of the user pressing the Ok
// button.
b.addActionListener (this);
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b.requestFocus ();
// Do not allow users to resize the dialog window.
setResizable (false);
// Allow the layout manager to choose an appropriate
// size for the dialog window.
pack ();
// Make sure that the dialog window is visible.
setVisible (true);
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