DIFFERENCE BETWEEN iDOC MESSAGING AND bDOC MESSAGING

hI
gurus what is the diffrence between idoc messaging and bdoc messaging?
K. Mangalum

Hi Kumara,
BDOC:
Container of business data that belongs together, for example customer, contact person, order or activity. This means that it contains all required information for a business process. The technical representation of a BDoc type is completely independent. There are many possible representations for a BDoc type.
For example, a BDoc type can be represented as follows:
as a collection of internal ABAP table structures (on the CRM Server),
by ADO record sets (on mobile clients),
as an XML form (for non-SAP systems), or,
as an IDoc.
Therefore a BDoc type is a semantic collection of business data and not a syntactical description.
There are three classes of BDoc types:
BDoc types exclusively used for mobile applications
They consist of a hierarchical data segment structure with assignment to database tables.
BDoc types for synchronization between the consolidated database in the CRM Server and mobile applications
They consist of a hierarchical segment structure with assignment to database tables.
BDoc types exclusively used for non-mobile applications
They consist of:
a hierarchical segment structure with no assignment to database tables,
additional data (complex data type modeled in the ABAP Dictionary)
Standard BDoc types are provided by SAP. Additional BDoc types can be modeled by customers.
Idoc:
IDOC: An intermediate document, container for exchanging data between R/3 and other SAP and non-SAP applications. Structured collection of segments. Segments are structured collection of data elements.
General Structure
IDocs contain administration information for technical processing, as well as the actual application data, which is stored in segments. A segment comprises segment fields as the smallest unit of the IDoc - comparable with the data elements from the EDIFACT standard.
In the SAP System, the processing status ("what has happened to the IDoc before now?") is stored in the IDoc status information. The status information also contains details about errors and indicates the data in which the error occurred. This status information is not forwarded as part of the IDoc but separately using "status processing".
IDoc types (special structure)
An IDoc type is defined through its permitted segments. Segments can be dependent on each other (parent and child segments). For example, segment E1EDPT1 (document item text identification) is a child segment of segment E1EDP01 (document item data, general) in IDoc type EXPINV01 (export billing) and a child segment of E1EDP07 (order data shipping notification) in IDoc type DESADV01 (shipping notification). The segment, therefore, is used in several contexts and is the "child" of several "parents".
CRM Bdoc and IDoc are both persisted data structures.
Idoc works on a particular technology called ALE and is used for data exchange between two R/3 systems
Regards,
Satish Mathala

Similar Messages

  • Difference between IDOC Type and Message Type

    Hi, please let me know the difference between IDOC type and Message Type?
    Thanks

    Hi,
    Message type is business name for IDOC you are sending hiding all technical details of the IDOC.
    IDOC type gives more technical information about structure of the IDOC.
    You will be linking IDOC type to message type while processing IDOC in runtime.  You will be specifying message type and IDOC type in WE20 trasaction which says which message will go to which partner whether it is outbound or inbound.
    Best Regards,
    Krishna

  • What's the difference between segment filtering and reduced message type

    Hi gurus,
    What's the difference between segment filtering and reduced message type? It seems they have the same functionality: Reduce the segment while idoc is generated.
    Thanks in advance.

    Hi,
    BD53 is for IDoc Reduction.
    this allows you to create a reduced message based upon a standard message type.If you want see mandatory fields. go to T-coe BD53 and give one standard messege type name and eg: matmas
    there mandatory fields will be in Green color..
    And BD56- This transaction is used to filter out segments of IDocs for combination of sender and receiver. This is usefull in scenarios where a standard IDoc with many segments is used but the receiving partner is only interested in some of the segments
    the table related to this transation is TBD20
      please go through below blog you have an idea abt that,
    http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/ABAP/ReducedMessageTypes
    http://saptotal.com/IDoc%20Segment%20Filtering.html
    regards,
    ganesh.

  • What is difference between I-mesage and Text Message, some I want to send I message and but I send text and it's charge to me

    What is difference between I-mesage and Text Message, some timeI want to send I-message and but I send text and it's charge to me.

    Thanks Wj,
    another question, how I got to know, my I-message is activated, I put as ON, but I am not getting mesage it's activated, there is link showing to me, learn more abount I-message. do it will take time? please advise how I can activate my I-message. Please advise.

  • Difference between IDOC Bundling and IDOC Packaging

    Hi,
    Can anybody please explain the difference between IDOC bundling and IDOC packaging?
    Thanks,
    Loveena.

    Hi,
    IDoc Bundling is the changing the occurance of IDoc.
    In a scenario If there is a necessitity for changing the Occurance of some segment of the IDOC u have to perform this steps
    1.Import the IDoc to XI.
    2.Export the IDoc(i.e XSD format) and save it to the local machine.
    3.Make changes to the IDoc structure by modifying the XSD file in the local machine.
    4.Save it as an XSD file Itself.
    5.Import the XSD file in the IR under the External Defination.
    6.Use this XSD in your Message Interface/Mapping which is same as IDoc structure but with some changes that u have made.
    Go Thru this Blog <a href="/people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2005/12/04/xi-idoc-bundling--the-trick-with-the-occurance-change Bundling - Trick without BPM</a> BY Michal Krawczyk where the Occurance of the IDoc is changed to 1...Unbounded from 1...999999999 by using the XSD.
    IDoc Packing is collecting of IDoc
    <a href="/people/pooja.pandey/blog/2005/07/27/idocs-multiple-types-collection-in-bpm of Multiple type IDOCs in BPM</a> BY Pooja
    Regards
    Santhosh
    Remember to set the thread to solved when you have received a solution
    [url=Use a Good Subject Line, One Question Per Posting - Award Points;  Use a Good Subject Line, One Question Per Posting - Award Points[/url]

  • Difference between Idoc Adapter and Proxies..

    HI XI Guru's,
    I am new to XI, I wanted to know what is the difference between Idoc adpater and proxies. When and what should be preffered ?
    Warm Regards,
    - Priya R

    idocs which mean - (intermediate documents)  are standard  document formats which sap systems use to store as well send data from one system to another. If this is the format in which data has to received by R/3 then you will use idoc adapter in XI.  idoc adapter can be used to communicate between systems is with  SAP release higher than  3.1.X. Communication using idoc adapter is always asynchronous.
    proxies are available for communication between  SAP systems with version WAS 6.20 and above. They support both synchronous as well as asynchronous modes of communication. Generally when you are looking at developing new application using WAS 6.20 and above then you can design the interfaces for this new applications in SAP XI and generate the required code for these interfaces automatically in SAP systems using transaction code - SPROXY in the case of ABAP Proxy and in the case of Java proxies the code is generated by SAP XI system itself. You only have to implement these interfaces in your new application. So, basically you have to only worry about building the application and the interface part is taken care by XI itself. you can also look at using proxies when data has to be inserted or fetched from custom/standard tables in R/3 using XI.
    ,idoc adapter can be used for commuincation between ABAP stacks only but Proxy can be used for both ABAP as well JAVA stack.

  • What is the difference between sms, mms and i message

    Hello: what is the difference between sms, mms and imessages? How can I set my IPHONE 4 to just send SMS, if those are simple text messages? Thanks you. Annie

    SMS - text message
    MMS - picture message
    Imessage - iphone to iphone/ipod/ipad text - not a carrier feature, so it is not part of any text plan).  Uses wi-fi or 3g.
    Turn off MMS and imessage:
    iPhone User Guide (For iOS 5.1 Software)

  • Difference between HTMLDB_LANG.LANG and HTMLDB_LANG.MESSAGES

    What is the difference between the HTMLDB_LANG.LANG and HTMLDB_LANG.MESSAGES functions.
    To me it seems that they both do the same thing, but get their values from different locations.
    Also, how can I manage the translated messages outside of HTMLDB. I.e. what tables do I have to alter to create/add/delete translated messages. I need my users to manage this, but I can't have them log into HTMLDB itself since it'll cause them too much confusion.
    Thanks,
    Martin

    Problem solved:
    Missed a step in the installation document. Following need to be entered into marvel.conf:
    AddType text/xml xbl
    AddType text/x-component htc

  • What is difference between transport protocol and message protocol

    what is difference between transport protocol and message protocol
    please give definition and small explanation

    Hi,
    Transport protocol gives information about outside of message details, kind of system, security details.
    A transport protocol is a network protocol that has the capability of transferring some payload from one node to another, thus providing some level of transparency from the underlying network.
    Transport protocols are used as a mechanism to move payloads around a network. Typically, a payload will have a transport binding associated with it. For example, SOAP (acting as a payload) has a predetermined binding for HTTP (a transport protocol).
    Some common transport protocols include: HTTP, HTTP-R, SMTP and BEEP.
    Message protocol gives you an idea of message type XI payload
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/b6/0b733cb7d61952e10000000a11405a/content.htm

  • Difference between Business message and application message

    Hi B2B Gurus,
    Can you please explain the difference between Business message and application message?
    Regards,
    Praveen

    Hi Praveen,
    Business message status reports identify business message instance details for a document protocol. These details include the sending and receiving trading partners, the agreement name, the business action, the business message ID, the status, the exchange protocol and document protocol, and message details.
    Application Message Reports provide information related to the SOA Composite—the name, version, and so on, if a back-end composite application sent or received the message.
    Regards,
    Anuj

  • Difference Between IDOC Message Type PORDCH & ORDCHG

    Hi
    Could anybody clarify me difference between Idoc types PORDCH & ORDCHG.
    For PO Change (Can be adding new line item, deleting existing line item, Change existing line item )
    which IDOC is suggested.
    Can i use ORDCHG Idoc for this purpose, But i find many fields are not exist in this segment.
    Pl clarify.
    Rams.

    Use ORDCHG message type with basic type ORDERS03

  • What is the difference between message and multipart message?

    Does the multipart message type provides the flexibility that the schema assigned to it can be changed later on?
    Suppose if a message is assigned with the schema directly, can it not be changed(adding, deleting elements,etc)
    once deployed.
    If the receive port is set to message box, should the receive shape be assigned with multi part message type or just with a message where a schema is assigned directly.
    what should be done if the input schema which is not a multipart message type changes after deployed?

    Thread Question: Technically, there is no difference.  All messages are multi-part.  The 'single part' type in the Orchestration Designer is just a convenience offered by the Orchestration Designer, the underlying type is the same for both.
    First Question: The difference you see is that the Orchestration Designer does not enforce the Body part Type on Port bindings because it it abstracted by the Multi-Part Type, which, yes, means you can change Body Part Type without having to unhook the Port
    and Receive/Send Shapes.
    Second Question: You can make any change to a Schema, except the Root Node Name and Namespace, without affecting the Message variables or Port types at all.  So yes, you can add/remove/change elements without even opening an Orchestration.
    Third Question: There's really no difference because outside of the Orchestration Designer, there is no difference between the 'single' and Multi-Part Message type.  You will always get a filter on the Body part MessageType.

  • Difference Between Data type and message type

    Hi,
        i have doubt on data type and message type.why we are mapping the message type why not data type?wht is the difference between data type and message type?

    Hi Narayanana,
    Data type defines the structure of your xml message.Message type is the wrapper of data type.You will be using your message type while mapping and not the data type.Its the abstraction concept used in oops
    kanan thiyam  
    Posts: 28
    Questions: 7
    Registered: 1/8/07
    Forum points: 24 
       Re: What is deffernce b/w Data type and message type  
    Posted: Jun 13, 2007 8:05 AM    in response to: suresh k         Reply      E-mail this post 
    Hi Suresh,
    Data Type defines the structure of the message and it will be wrapped under Message Type.
    Hope the details below will clearify your doubts.
    A data type in a programming language is a set of data with values having predefined characteristics. Examples of data types are: integer, floating point unit number, character, string, and pointer.
    The characteristic of columns and variables that defines what types of data values they can store.
    Check out the details:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_type
    A message type comprises a data type that describes the structure of a message. At the following points in SAP Exchange Infrastructure you can refer to the message to be exchanged at runtime by using the message type:
    Details:
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/2d/c0633c3a892251e10000000a114084/content.htm
    kanan

  • Error Message "There is difference between document total and its component

    Error message number 439-138. Is there a sight I could look up error codes?
    There is difference between document total and its components

    Hi Deborah ,
    Please look at this thread..
    Error when adding AP invoice
    So far it looks like a bug
    You can also search in sap service market --support --sap notes
    there are plenty of threads in forum .....
    Hope this helps
    Bishal

  • Difference between idoc and rfc

    what is the difference between idoc and rfc? when and where it is used? when there is idoc, why rfc vice versa?

    IDoc (for intermediate document) is a standard data structure for electronic data interchange (EDI) between application programs written for the popular SAP business system or between an SAP application and an external program. IDocs serve as the vehicle for data transfer in SAP's Application Link Enabling (ALE) system. 
    IDocs are used for asynchronous transactions:  Each IDoc generated exists as a self-contained text file that can then be transmitted to the requesting workstation without connecting to the central database. 
    Another SAP mechanism, the Business Application Programming Interface (BAPI) is used for synchronous transactions. 
    A large enterprise's networked computing environment is likely to connect many geographically distributed computers to the main database. These computers are likely to use different hardware and/or operating system platforms. An IDoc encapsulates data so that it can be exchanged between different systems without conversion from one format to another. 
    IDoc types define different categories of data, such as purchase orders or invoices, which may then be broken down into more specific categories called message types. Greater specificity means that an IDoc type is capable of storing only the data required for a particular transaction, which increases efficiency and decreases resource demands. 
    An IDoc can be generated at any point in a transaction process. For example, during a shipping transaction process, an IDoc may be generated that includes the data fields required to print a shipping manifest. After a user performs an SAP transaction, one or more IDocs are generated in the sending database and passed to the ALE communication layer. The communication
    layer performs a Remote Function Call (RFC), using the port definition and RFC destination specified by the customer model. 
    The IDoc is transmitted to the receiver, which may be an R/3, R/2, or some external system
    RFC
    Remote Function Calls (RFC) and data exchange through IDoc message documents. RFC makes direct and synchronous calls of a program in the remote system. If the caller is an external program it will call an RFC-enabled function in R/3 and if the calling program is the R/3 system it will call an RFC-function in another R/3-system or it will call a non-R/3 program through a gateway-proxy (usually rfcexec.exe). BAPIs are a subset of the RFC-enabled function modules, especially designed as Application Programming Interface (API) to the SAP business object, or in other words: are function modules officially released by SAP to be called from external programs.
    note:reward points if solution found helpfull.....
    regards
    chandrakanth.k

Maybe you are looking for