Difference between PPM and PDS, PPDS and SNP
Hello Gurus,
I'am a beginer to APO so could you please let me know about the difference between PPM and PDS? Also the difference between SNP and PPDS/
giri
Production Version in ECC can be transferred to APO as:
PPM - Product Process Model or,
PDS - Product Data Structure
These form the basis master data for Planning in APO
SNP - Supply Network Planning & PPDS - Production Planning and Detailed Scheduling are two Modules in APO for planning purpose.
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What is exact difference between PPM and PDS
Hi,
can any one prove details of Difference between PPM and PDS
Thanks
sureshDear Suresh,
please find below the detailed comparative account of PDS Vs PPM. You can copy and put it in an excel sheet in different columns and then read which is easy to understand.
PDS:
1. Production Data Structure (PDS) in APO 3.1 & Run Time Object (RTO) in 4.0 and above versions
2. Master Data Object
3. Useful for scenarios where the compoenent has got different validity periods
4. Used as Master data Basis for Planning in SAP-APO
5. Contains active Master data from iPPE (Integrated Product and Process Engineering) generated from a production version
6. PPDS PDS & SNP PDS can be used as master data for planning
7. Change Management, variant configuration & Phantom assemplies are supported in PDS
8. Sub-contracting in SNP is fully integrated with R/3 is supported in PDS
9. Direct transfer of SNP PDS from R/3 is possible
10.Rapid Planning Matrix can be generated
11. Not possible to maintain PDS directly in APO and can be used only in combination with R/3
12. The transfer of data changes is simpler
13. Not possible to create alternate SNP-PDS in std system for different mode combinations
14. PDS can be automatically generated from two sources ie R/3 and iPPE
PPM:
1. Production Process Model
2. Master Data Object
3. Cannot be used for scenarios where the component has got different validity period
4. Used as Master data Basis for Planning in SAP-APO
5. Contains active Master data generated from the combination of routing (BoM & receipe) and production versions
6. PPDS PPM & SNP PPM's can be used as master data for planning
7. Not supported by PPM
8. Not supported by PPM
9. Not possible here. SNP PPMs will be generated via PPDS PPMs
10. Not possible
11. PPMs can be directly created in APO and can be modified without R/3 also.
12. Little Complex when compared to PDS
13. Alternate SNP-PPMs can be easily created
14. PPM can be generated automatically generated only from R/3 -
Difference between dp and snp?
hi friends,
what is main difference between with dp and snp. why we use both in apo. can u give me any scenerio with any industry?
regards
suneel.Dear Suneel,
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/8f/9d6937089c2556e10000009b38f889/frameset.htm">Demand Planning</a> - Use APO Demand Planning (DP) to create a forecast of market demand for your company's products. This component allows you to take into consideration the many different causal factors that affect demand. The result of APO Demand Planning is the demand plan.
Demand Planning is a powerful and flexible tool that supports the demand planning process in your company. User-specific planning layouts and interactive planning books enable you to integrate people from different departments, and even different companies, into the forecasting process. Using the DP library of statistical forecasting and advanced macro techniques you can create forecasts based on demand history as well as any number of causal factors, carry out predefined and self-defined tests on forecast models and forecast results, and adopt a consensus-based approach to reconcile the demand plans of different departments. To add marketing intelligence and make management adjustments, you use promotions and forecast overrides. The seamless integration with APO Supply Network Planning supports an efficient S&OP process.
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm50/helpdata/en/1c/4d7a375f0dbc7fe10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm">Supply Network Planning</a> - APO Supply Network Planning (SNP) integrates purchasing, manufacturing, distribution, and transportation so that comprehensive tactical planning and sourcing decisions can be simulated and implemented on the basis of a single, global consistent model. Supply Network Planning uses advanced optimization techniques, based on constraints and penalties, to plan product flow along the supply chain. The result is optimal purchasing, production, and distribution decisions; reduced order fulfillment times and inventory levels; and improved customer service.
Starting from a demand plan, Supply Network Planning determines a permissible short- to medium-term plan for fulfilling the estimated sales volumes. This plan covers both the quantities that must be transported between two locations (for example, distribution center to customer or production plant to distribution center), and the quantities to be produced and procured. When making a recommendation, Supply Network Planning compares all logistical activities to the available capacity.
The Deployment function determines how and when inventory should be deployed to distribution centers, customers, and vendor-managed inventory accounts. It produces optimized distribution plans based on constraints (such as transportation capacities) and business rules (such as minimum cost approach, or replenishment strategies).
The Transport Load Builder (TLB) function maximizes transport capacities by optimizing load building.
In addition, the seamless integration with APO Demand Planning supports an efficient S&OP process.
Supply Network Planning is used to calculate quantities to be delivered to a location in order to match customer demand and maintain the desired service level. Supply Network Planning includes both heuristics and mathematical optimization methods to ensure that demand is covered and transportation, production, and warehousing resources are operating within the specified capacities.
The interactive planning desktop makes it possible to visualize and interactively modify planning figures. You can present all key indicators graphically. The system processes any changes directly via liveCache.
Regards,
Naveen. -
Hello everyone,
Can anyone please let me know the differences between PPM and PDS as i'm not able to differentiate these two.
Thanks for your reply in advance.
Regards,
Jagadeesh.Hi Jagadish,
Please find the difference between PDS and PPM.
PDS
1)Production Data Structure (PDS) in APO 3.1 & Run Time Object (RTO) in 4.0 and above versions
2)Master Data Object
3)Useful for scenarios where the component has got different validity periods
4)Used as Master data Basis for Planning in SAP-APO
5)Contains active Master data from iPPE (Integrated Product and Process Engineering) generated from a production version
6)PPDS PDS & SNP PDS can be used as master data for planning
7)Change Management, variant configuration & Phantom assemplies are supported in PDS
8)Sub-contracting in SNP is fully integrated with R/3 is supported in PDS
9)Direct transfer of SNP PDS from R/3 is possible
10)Rapid Planning Matrix can be generated
11)Not possible to maintain PDS directly in APO and can be used only in combination with R/3
12)The transfer of data changes is simpler
13)Not possible to create alternate SNP-PDS in std system for different mode combinations
14)PDS can be automatically generated from two sources ie R/3 and iPPE
PPM:-
1)Production Process Model
2)Master Data Object
3)Cannot be used for scenarios where the component has got different validity period
4)Used as Master data Basis for Planning in SAP-APO
5)Contains active Master data generated from the combination of routing (BoM & receipe) and production versions
6)PPDS PPM & SNP PPM's can be used as master data for planning
7)Not supported by PPM
8)Not supported by PPM
9)Not possible here. SNP PPMs will be generated via PPDS PPMs
10)Not possible
11)PPMs can be directly created in APO and can be modified without R/3 also.
12)Little Complex when compared to PDS
13)Alternate SNP-PPMs can be easily created
14)PPM can be generated automatically generated only from R/3
PDS is used in industries wherein there are multiple components or assemblies having diffeent production versions whose validity periods are different. PPM is being used typically in process industries, chemical industries. PPM is very simple in its usage and very flexible in operations in terms of modifications at APO level and can be referred to client depending on the business requirement.
Regards,
Nagesh. -
Switch between SNP-PPM and SNP-PDS
Hi,
In APO I have both SNP-PPM and SNP-PDS, but right now I am having some trouble with the bucket time from the PDS so I am trying to temporarly change my PDS to PPM.
My query is:
- Is there a way in APO to make the SNP-PPM the default production model over theSNP- PDS?
I was searching for some kind of documentation on this topic and I found that I should change the priority for the PDS throught the PDS_MAINT transaccion in ECC, is this the only way to do it?
Thank you in advance,
FernandoHi ,
SNP heuristics planning source determination gives first preference to Quota arrangement.
You may include PDS as a source of supply in the inbound quota arrangement of the product.
There is a BADI BAdI /SAPAPO/PWB_SOS to modify the content and the sequence of the sources of supply in the ranking list.
The normal ranking list for SNP source determonation is as below:
Quota arrangements
Procurement priority
Procurement costs
Procurement type
There are two other BADIs releveant as below:
u2022 /SAPAPO/CURTO_SNP ) Enhancements When Creating an SNP PDS (R/3) (Generation)
u2022 /SAPAPO/CULLRTOSNP ) Change SNP/CTM Production Data Structure Data (Generation)
Hope this gives some options.
Regards
Datta -
Difference in PPM and PDS.....?
HI ,
What are the difference between the production process
model (PPM) and the production data structure (PDS).....?
are they totally similar or there are specific applications in which either one of them is only usefull.....?
Thanks in advance.
RegardsHi ,
The PPM is the master data which was available from the very beginning
of APO but will not be developed any further due to some structural limitations
(mainly the lack of engineering change management). The alternative
to the PPM is the PDS. The functionality of the PDS was increased for
APO 4.1. In the releases APO 3.1 and 4.0 the PDS was called run-time object
(RTO). The SAP recommendation is to use PDS for new implementations
whenever possible.
Also check below link
Re: Can we use PDS for few material and PPM for other material in SCM sysytem ?
also refer SAP note 1079959 to get the full detailed information on differences between PPM & PDS.
Hope it helps you.
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