DIR7 Character Set Problem / Foreign Language
Hi there,
I am working on an app built using Director 7 that until now
has used the standard English (latin-1) character set.
However, I am required to deliver a new version including
some elements displayed in a second language, in this case Welsh,
which uses characters outside of the normal set. I believe those
required are included in Latin-1 Extended, otherwise in Unicode as
a whole, obviously.
I am having specific problems with two characters that appear
to be missing from Latin-1, which are: ŵ and ŷ
(w-circumflex, and y-circumflex [i think!]).
In a standard text box I create using Director, I am unable
either to paste either character in, or enter it using its
ALT+combination, let alone save to the associated database.
I have read that Dir 11 is the first version with full
Unicode support - which surprises me - however I would assume that
someone would likely have hit this, or a similar issue before the
release of this version and was wondering if there is a possible
solution without upgrade.
My possible thinking is either a declaration that allows
change of a Charset, as I might do in XHTML for example, or
deployment of an Xtra that allows me to use a different character
set.
If anyone could shed some light on the matter, it would be
very helpful! Thanks in advance!
Rich.
Yes, this was always a problem for years. Back when I was
**** this, we had
some projects that needed text displayed in various
languages. Each
language presented its own challenges. Things like Greek
weren't too bad,
because the Symbol font works for most Greek text. (Only
problem was the
's' version of Sigma, which had to switch back to Times New
Roman.) Various
eastern European languages (Polish, Czech, Hungarian, etc.)
posed a problem
with some of the accents that were not available in standard
font sets. We
were forced to live without some of the more exotic accents,
but were told
that it would still be readable without them, if not exactly
correct. This
would probably be the closest to your situation, from what
little I know
about Welsh. It could be worse, though. Hebrew and Arabic
were challenging
as they are written right-to-left, and thus had to have code
written to
input them backwards. Russian was also tough, as the Cyrillic
alphabet has
more characters than the others, but I was able to find a
font to fake it.
(It replaced some of the lesser-used standard characters in
order to fill in
all the letters, which unfortunately meant that in the rare
cases where
those characters *were* needed, we had to improvise.) The
hardest by far
were any east Asian languages. In that case, I gave up on
trying to display
any of the text in text form, and just converted it all to
bitmaps. Without
Unicode, trying to display Mandarin or Japanese or Korean
correctly as text
is pretty much impossible.
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Typ=58 Len=2037: 0,0,0,1,10,4,8c,a8,0,0,0,1,10,8c,ff,b8,0,0,0,1,11,2,2,f8,0,0,0,1,10,e1,a9,20,3b,9a,ca,0,0,0,f,a0,0,0,f,a0,0,1,0,4,0,0,0,1,9,84,d5,24,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,f,93,48,0,0,0,1,10,88,0,8,40,b3,8f,0,0,0,1,41,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,88,ab,b8,0,0,1,40,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,88,ab,d8,0,0,0,1,10,f,93,48,0,0,40,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,7,6,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,40,68,6b,78,73,2d,68,65,61,70,2d,63,0,0,0,0,0,0,7f,ff,7f,ff,80,0,80,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,18,0,0,0,1,10,8d,0,b8,0,0,0,1,10,8d,0,b8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,28,0,0,0,1,10,8d,0,d0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,0,d0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,38,0,0,0,1,10,8d,0,e8,0,0,0,1,10,8d,0,e8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,58,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,18,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,18,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,18,0,0,0,0,0,0,4,18,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,30,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,30,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,18,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,48,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,48,d0,b3,8f,0,0,0,fe,a9,0,0,0,1,10,8d,0,18,0,0,0,1,10,f,94,e0,0,0,0,1,10,ff,aa,98,0,0,0,1,10,8d,8,98,d0,b3,8f,0,0,0,7,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,8,b8,0,0,0,1,10,f,84,48,0,0,0,1,10,8d,8,c0,0,b3,8f,0,0,0,0,31,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,8,fc,ac,8,d0,b3,8f,0,0,0,fe,41,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,58,0,0,0,1,10,f,93,48,0,0,0,1,10,f,83,a0,0,0,0,1,11,35,a9,0,d0,b3,8f,0,0,0,fe,19,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,f,84,48,0,0,0,1,10,f,84,48,50,0,4,1,0,0,0,18,0,0,0,58,0,4,1,0,0,0,30,0,0,0,60,0,4,1,0,0,0,48,0,0,0,68,0,4,1,0,0,0,60,0,0,0,70,0,4,1,0,0,0,78,0,0,0,78,0,1,1,0,0,0,90,0,0,0,90,0,2,2,0,0,0,a8,0,0,0,a8,0,17,1,1,3,69,2,0,0,0,d0,0,0,0,c0,0,11,1,1,3,69,2,0,0,0,f8,0,0,0,d8,0,20,1,1,3,69,2,0,0,1,20,0,0,1,0,0,14,1,1,3,69,2,0,0,1,48,0,0,1,18,0,40,1,1,3,69,2,0,0,1,70,0,0,1,60,0,28,1,1,3,69,2,0,0,1,98,0,0,1,90,0,3f,1,1,3,69,2,0,0,1,c0,0,0,1,d0,0,1a,1,1,3,69,2,0,0,1,e8,0,0,1,f0,0,28,1,1,3,69,2,0,0,2,10,0,0,2,20,0,2b,1,1,3,69,2,0,0,2,38,0,0,2,50,0,33,1,1,c0,b3,8f,0,0,0,10,81,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,58,0,0,0,1,10,f,93,48,0,0,0,1,10,8d,4d,30,0,0,0,1,10,8d,13,88,d0,b3,8f,0,0,0,10,59,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,13,a8,0,0,0,1,11,0,98,88,0,0,0,1,10,8d,13,c8,0,b3,8f,0,0,0,0,41,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,8,fc,ac,8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,3,c0,80,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,b3,8f,0,0,0,0,29,0,0,0,1,10,8d,3,40,0,0,0,1,8,fc,ac,50,0,0,0,b7,0,2,43,31,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,b3,8f,0,0,0,0,99,0,0,0,1,10,8d,3,80,0,0,0,1,9,10,e7,50,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,b7,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,7,0,0,0,7,c7,bf,b8,c0,b3,8f,0,0,0,18,79,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1,58,0,0,0,1,10,f,93,48,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1c,80,d0,b3,8f,0,0,0,18,51,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1c,a0,0,0,0,1,10,f,84,48,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1c,a8,10,b3,8f,0,0,0,18,29,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,8,fb,fe,44,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1c,68,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,30,0,30,0,0,0,4,0,0,0,1,10,8d,24,80,0,0,0,1,10,8d,4,88,0,0,0,1,10,8d,4,58,0,0,0,1,10,8d,4,a0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,1c,68,0,0,0,1,10,88,4,f0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,49,38,0,0,0,1,20,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,40,88,0,0,0,1,9,10,e6,5c,0,0,0,1,10,88,6,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,38,a0,0,0,0,2,10,8d,0,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,40,a8,0,b3,8f,0,0,0,0,69,0,0,0,1,10,88,14,c8,0,0,0,1,10,8d,38,a0,0,0,0,2,20,0,0,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,40,c8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,88,14,30,0,0,0,1,10,8d,38,a0,0,0,0,2,0,0,0,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,40,e8,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,b3,8f,0,0,0,0,59,0,0,0,1,10,8d,4,f8,0,0,0,1,8,fd,b9,e0,0,0,0,1,11,0,83,a8,0,0,0,1,11,0,83,a8,0,0,0,1,11,0,83,c0,0,0,0,1,11,0,7b,98,0,0,0,1,10,8d,26,c0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,26,c0,0,0,0,1,8,fd,b9,e0,0,0,8,0,ac,64,61,74,0,b3,8f,0,0,0,4,29,0,0,0,1,10,8d,5,60,0,0,0,1,8,fb,fe,44,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,9,e0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,40,0,40,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,9,f8,0,0,0,1,10,8d,6,0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,5,d0,0,0,0,1,10,8d,6,18,0,0,0,1,10,8d,9,e0,48,45,4d,41,5f,50,52,45,53,45,4e,54,22,23,66,65,35,64,36,61,61,30,35,64,65,62,64,64,65,61,20,23,33,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2,0,0,4,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,10,44,2,f,a0,1,0,f,d0,41,0,30,d,0,18,d,0,10,0,0,0,0,0,0,3,0,0,0,2,3,80
I find it odd it doesnt tell me what character set is used. If i run a dump 1016 on a varchar2 on the same table, i get:
Typ=1 Len=14 CharacterSet=AL32UTF8: 53,74,65,c3,a9,70,68,61,6e,65,c3,a9,c3,a0
Any ideas? This is frustrating.... xml data gets corrupted everytime it's edited in SQLDeveloper.
Thanks for the helpThanks for the reply...
create table sample_charset(theString varchar2(2 char), theXml xmltype);
insert into sample_charset values('éà',xmltype('<xml>éà</xml>'));
commit;
select * from sample_charset;
"THESTRING" "THEXML"
"éà" <xml>éà </xml>
select dump(theString, 1016) as theStringDump, dump(theXml,1016) as theXmlDump from sample_charset;
"THESTRINGDUMP" "THEXMLDUMP"
"Typ=1 Len=4 CharacterSet=AL32UTF8: c3,a9,c3,a0"
"Typ=58 Len=120: 0,0,0,1,10,4,8c,a8,0,0,0,1,10,e1,a8,60,0,0,0,1,10,dc,36,f8,0,0,0,1,10,95,bf,28,3b,9a,ca,0,0,0,f,a0,0,0,f,a0,0,1,0,4,0,0,0,1,9,84,d5,24,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,10,f,91,28,0,0,0,1,10,db,a8,b8" -
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i ll try and provide as much info as possible to you
we have a unix sap server with oracle 10.something on it (i can check exactly what version if that's of importance) and i am writting a .net app which accesses the oracle db and retrieve some data we need
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i have made the connection to the db using just connection string info, not tns and stuff, and i have set my dev machine's nls_lang to we8dec everywhere i could find it with a 'find' in the registry
however my app displays the data (which is in greek) showing random symbols that obviously make to sense
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thanksuser9084006 wrote:
i am a .net developer and absolutelly new to oracle, its my first project that i have make oracle and .net co-operate and it's proving to be a nightmare!Welcome. It's a brand new universe, but if you take it step by step I'm sure you'll do fine. Get someone near with Oracle dev and dba background to guide you, so you don't get stuck or go down broken roads.
we have a unix sap server with oracle 10.something on it (i can check exactly what version if that's of importance)It is of importance most of the time. Down to at least 4 positions (for example, "10g" is just a marketing label and mostly useless in a techincal context - 10.2.0.5 is more like it).
Also mention platform (unix OS) details.
and i am writting a .net app which accesses the oracle db and retrieve some data we needHow is the to-be retrieved data loaded or entered to begin?
>
the locale settings of the db are american_america.we8dec and i cannot temper with that machine, it is out of the question Please post output from:
SQL> select * from nls_database_parameters where parameter like '%CHARACTERSET';
and i have set my dev machine's nls_lang to we8dec everywhere i could find it with a 'find' in the registryDoes your dev (client) machine use a "we8dec" character set? Likely, as you seem to be on Windows, you should have set nls_lang client char set part to match win-1252 or whatever client char set (code page) is in use.
however my app displays the data (which is in greek) showing random symbols that obviously make to senseNo surprise since DEC character set does not have a greek character in its repertoire. If I'm not all mistaken DEC MCS (or similar) is the charcter set to which WE8DEC corresponds. You could check against mapping table in Locale builder, but available characters should be per following link or close enough.
http://czyborra.com/charsets/iso8859.html#ISO-8859-1 (second chart is DEC-MCS)
Please provide a sample of those "random symbols".
furthermore when i connect to the db via sql developer or navicat i still get the same symbolsIf that's Oracle SQL Developer it should give a true picture of what's actually stored - which, unfortuantely, seem to be invalid character data.
i understand it is something to do with my client system's settings but i cant work it out See above. But even if you correctly setup client environment, the db won't be able to store the data if databas character set is in fact WE8DEC.
>
i would really appreciate your help i am sorry if it is something very simple but i just cant find it I'm not sure, but it would seem as you have been given unfeasible conditions to work from. So maybe it's not up to you, until a character set migration has been taken place.
In general, the Database character set should be a suitable superset (repertoire) that covers all current (and hopefully future) language alphabets requirements.
You might want to search forum for 'we8dec' to find previous related discussions.
Edit:
- Added url with DEC MCS.
- platform info
Edited by: orafad on Jan 26, 2012 12:28 PM
Edited by: orafad on Jan 26, 2012 12:43 PM -
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