Disk Setup Question

Is there disadvantages to keeping the project files on the same disk as the media?
Keeping media on a separate disk means another whole folder structure.
I have four disks and am trying to set them up not only for performance but the best organizing possible.
10000 Velic 300gb - C: = OS
7200 1tb - D: = Paging file / Shared Assets
7200 1tb - E: = Projects / Media
7200 1tb - F: = ?

What you want to achieve is that disk accesses are spread over all your disks as much as possible. Depending on the nature of your projects, your inclination to render time lines, etc. you have to find your best solution. There is not a single solution, but if you keep the general statement about spreading the load in mind, you can set it up so it works best for you with your workflow.

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Some specific Disk Setup Questions

Alright, I've read several articles, but I'm still slightly confused. It's not too much, but just a simple matter of what difference an HDD and an SDD would make without any form of RAID.
So, let's take the following:
C: Samsung 256GB 850 PRO Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive
for OS and Programs
D: 3TB Barracuda SATA 6Gb/s 7200RPM 64MB Cache Desktop Drive OR Samsung 1TB 850 PRO Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive
for Source Media and Projects
E: Samsung 128GB 850 PRO Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive
for Pagefile and Media Cache
F: Samsung 128GB 850 PRO Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive OR Samsung 256GB 850 PRO Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive
for Preview and Exports.*
So, this is what I may be considering as a disk setup. I don't have too much more money to spend than possibly what I have listed above, and I'm trying to determine what would be the best for After Effects and Premiere Pro, the two programs I'd main.
*One thing to note is that I would NOT keep the exports on that disk. I would move them over to something else I already have for storage. So, it's basically a matter of how much space should I have on that drive for preview files.
So, here're my questions:
For the D: drive, what difference will the HDD I have listed make (remember, Ae and Pr would be READING from that drive) compared to the SDD? See, I would prefer more space with the HDD, and like to spend less money, but if the other drives are all SSDs, will that HDD slow it all down?
How big are preview files supposed to be? I've had bad experiences with them, due to my lack of knowledge at the moment, but I don't know; just for 1080x1920 HD video, what's a general size the preview files should be per minute? (I also use several layers, so that could affect the size as well.)
If the preview files are generally fairly small when set up correctly (as in not a 40GB file per 3 minutes of 1080by1920 HD), could the E: and F: drives be run together in a RAID0? Would that offer advantages over running them separately? Or would the difference be negligible?
If it's better to run the E: and F: drives separately, should I use the 128GB drive for Previews/Exports or the 256GB drive? I know that if I did RAID0 I'd have to use the 128GB.

Yes, it's true; I have no experience building systems at all. However, I'm still unclear, entirely, on the whole HDD vs SSD thing. Thank you for your information, but I'd still like to clarify some things.
I'm mainly trying to understand more about the performance aspect of all this.
Let's take the previously revised version and compare it to your suggested one. I'll say what I think based upon what I believe to be correct, but I'm obviously missing some information here; that's where I want somebody to correct me.
Version 1:
C: Samsung 256GB 850 PRO Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive
for OS and Programs and possibly Pagefile
D: Samsung 1TB 850 PRO Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive
for Source Media and Projects
E: Samsung 128GB 850 PRO Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive
for possibly Pagefile and Media Cache
F: Samsung 256GB 850 PRO Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive
for Preview and Exports.*
*Take note, I'm putting the exports on a separate drive I already own and deleting them from the drive I originally wrote them to.
VS:
Version 2:
C: Samsung 256GB 850 PRO Series SATA III 6Gb/s Solid State Drive
for OS and Programs and pagefile.
D: HD RAID 0 array: 6x 1TB Barracuda 64MB cache RAID 0 array (x99 boards have LOTS of SATA ports)
So, let me get this straight here. Correct me if any of the following statements are wrong. I'll also have some questions associated with them.
Version 2 will be SIGNIFICANTLY slower than Version 1. I'm assuming this because Version 2 is both an HDD and SATA instead of SSDs with SATA III. However, I'm unsure of this since RAID 0 is being used in Version 2, unlike Version 1.
Version 2 will be MUCH riskier than Version 1. I'm assuming this because it's RAID 0, and if one of those six drives fails, all the data is lost. (However, since the programs are on C:, they will stay safe, along with the operating system.)
Version 2 is ALSO riskier due to the fact that I'm using HDDs instead of SSDs. Or am I wrong, are SSDs riskier than HDDs?
Under Version 2, I'll have 1TB total to put source media, projects media cache, preview files, and exports on, while keeping the pagefile, OS, and programs on C:. (even though it's six disks)
This is what I'm understanding right now. Please correct me if I'm wrong, or point out other suggestions. One final thing, as well, that I'm also unsure of.
Now, I used to use Premiere Elements 11. When I would create preview files for, say, a 13 minute HD video, the preview files (in total) would be under 1GB or just a little more. What about Premiere Pro CC makes the file sizes so different?

Scratch disk and other setup questions

Hello, I am a long time Premiere user but have never been involved with the setup. I have decided to start doing personal video editing on my gaming computer and have run into some questions.
The biggest one I have is with the scratch disk setup. I've read the help doc about 10 times and googled every combination of terms I can think of but am still unsure how I should set these for my setup.
I have Premiere Pro CS5 installed on my C:, which is a 128 GB SSD
For storage I have 4 1TB drives in Raid 5, so 2.72 TB total storage.
How do I want to set up my scratch disks for best possible performance?
Question 2: This might be related to scratch disk setup, I'm not sure, but something I have always wondered. Which disk should I save my projects to in this configuration? Does it matter? Then, do I want to render my final video to that same folder or to another disk?
Question 3: I currently have a GTX 460 graphics card and am enjoying the benefits of CUDA acceleration. I have been looking at adding a second in SLI for gaming purposes, but have read that the Mercury Playback Engine is not compatible with SLI. Does this mean that it will still just work with one card and I will see no benefit in premiere, or that all CUDA acceration will cease?
Thanks guys, I really appreciate the help.

Alright, so I have the hdd's in the case and am setting up where to place everything, but each of my drives is different, so I am hoping someone can suggest best practice on which drives should hold what. I can rearrange any drive to suit any purpose you guys would suggest, but here is what I currently have set up:
C: - 128 GB SATA III SSD
D: - 150 GB 10k VelociRaptor
E: - 250 GB Caviar Black
F: - 4x 1 TB Spinpoint F4 7200 RPM in RAID 5
Here is how I am currently planning on using these drives:
C: - OS, Programs
D: - Media, Projects
E: - Previews, Exports
F: - Pagefile, Media Cache
When I am finished with a project I move the exported file onto my media server, so that is why I set the export onto the smaller drive and media cache onto the RAID.
Does this look good or would you guys suggest a different orientation for better performance?
And one other question, this time regarding RAM. I currently have 6 GB of DDR3, 3 x 2 GB. I have been reading all about how moving up to 24 GB would be very beneficial, and since it really isn't all that expensive, I am planning on doing so. My question is that, I have watched the task manager while rendering and exporting my videos and I've only ever seen RAM usage hit 1.8 GB. I wondered why it didn't get close to using all 6, but didn't worry about it too much. But now that I am hearing 24 would be helpful, I am wondering if I have something set up wrong that is stopping Premiere from using all my RAM?
Thank you guys so much for the help.

PC build and Disk Setup for a Pro-Wannabe

Hi All,
I know everyone asks these questions and I thought I will not but, when you spend more than $3000 it feels their is no "Harm" in asking the question (but hopefully their will be Harm somewhere in the comments).
So, after waiting for the Mac Pro update for 2 years (just to fool myself that I may buy it), I have decided to move from the Mac OS to Windows after 4 years. I was only using a Macbook Pro to edit and feel now have the suitable experience to begin working on an actual machine.
If you ask my budget, I didn't have any so I went on a buying frenzy with my credit cards and will hopfully be driven to work harder to pay it off .
Here are the parts I have bought:
CPU - Intel 3930K (duh! I don't see a point in waiting for the 4th Gen)
Mobo - ASUS P9X79 Pro
RAM - GSkillz 32GB (8GBx4) @ 1600MHz 9-9-9 (as 3930K is limited to 1600MHz and 1.5V)
Will buy this same set around end of this year to make it 64GB if I feel AE would eat it.
Cabinet - CoolerMaster Storm Stryker (was buying HAF-XM but could not resist the looks of this).
PSU - Seasonic 860W Platinum Plus (Thought 1k is overkill and 750 not future proof, pricey though)
Storage (I thought I will get 1 cheap SSD and 1 Hybrid but then I read all the threads and went crazy)
Samsung 840 Pro SSD- 256GB - 2 nos.
Samsung 840 (nonPro) - 128GB - 2 nos.
Seagate 7200rpm HD - 2TB - 3 nos.
Monitor (just fyi) - Dell U2412 (planning to buy ASUS PA '13 or Dell Ultra '13 24" after few months)
.. finally GPU - Not bought yet
I ordered the ASUS GTX 680 4G as 780 was too costly
but then I read the actual successor to 680 is 770. So I cancelled my 680 but the seller still has not confirmed, just hoping they cancel. Then it turns out 770-4G is not yet sold in my country (am not from the US) so I may import from US (surprisingly importing from Amazon with duties costs the same as probable street price in my country). So I will mot probably buy a..
Gigabyte GTX 770 4G
So, Question 1> Any comments on the component list?
As I plan to build this on my own, have not thought of overclocking as I am not a geek and feel I should first get comfortable. Fair thought?
And hence I have not bought any additional Fans or Coolers.
And now for the Question 2> disk setup! Can you please fill the blanks or suggest alternatives.
This is what I have planned:
C: > Samsung 840 Pro 256GB : OS and _____ ??
D: > Samsung 840 Pro 256GB: Previews and Renders and/or ____ ??
E: > Samsung 840 128GB x 2 RAID-0 : Footage and ___ ?? (the 128GB version has slowest write speed so assigned it to footage)
F: > Seagate 2TB x 2 RAID-0 HDD : Exports and General Personal Files (like Docs, Music)
G: > Seagate 2TB : Dedicated solely as Backup Drive for crictical data at any time (which for me can be on any drive, that is why no RAID3/5 I feel)
And I plan to use my old external USB2/Firewire/USB3 external drives (500GB/1TB) for manual backups.
I can buy 1 or 2 more 2TBs (not SSDs) if it is really critical for some configuration but not anything more.
Usage: I shoot only DSLR footage and use PPro and AE CS6. I have till now been using a 2009 17" Macbook Pro with an SSD. And could have been spotted sometimes using a Class 6 SD Card on a USB 2 card reader being used as the Media drive (Ouch!). I feel (a) now I have the skill to justify this as many times I end up not implementing an idea in AE as my machine just won't budge and (b) I plan to buy the BlackMagic Pocket Camera to learn capabilities of RAW media. Like many I do hope to make an indie in the next 2 or 3 years but I hope I can employ services of a professional who should at least give me respect when he looks at my machine
If you have made it till here, thanks for your time. Waiting for your comments.
Cheers!
Ps: And yes I am planning to subscribe to CC as its cheap for a CS6 owner. And then after 1 year will judge if I will continue with CC once upgrade pricing goes (hopefully yes as I wait for an extensively GPU using AE version soon).

Regarding question #1, build list, and question #2 drive setup:
everything looks great except...
add a good cpu cooler; lots of good choices out there including but not limited to: budget: Cooler Master 212 EVO, high-performance air: Noctua NH-D14, simple liquid: Corsair H110, full water cooling: many options (full water cooling is a pain to plan and build, but ooooohhh so quiet!)
RAM: suggest go for 64GB at the onset rather than trying to add RAM later
definitely plan on overclocking - 4 Ghz is a walk in the park and very safe since you aren't totally comfortable with overclocking, and the performance gain is rather significant for renders, etc.
One SSD is plenty to get started - 256GB would be good for OS, programs, as well as providing some room for AE and photoshop caching
2 drives in RAID 0 would work pretty well for all projects, media, etc. If you really want to spend more in the drive area up the RAID to a 3 or 4 drive RAID
Suggest putting your backup drive in a hot-swap tray so you can remove it and provide off-site backup capability
Regards,
Jim

Need advice on Hardware & Disk Setup for Premiere Pro CS6

I am about to purchase a Mac Pro and after reading threads on hardware requirements & different disk setups I am still a little unsure which way to go. If someone could point me in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Firstly this system will be used primarily for the following tasks: Editing AVCHD media (Sony HDR-XR550) and burning to disk with light editing, Creating Web Videos from AVCHD Media, editing images in Ps & Lr. This is strictly a hobby for me and I will also use the machice for some light AutoCad work.
The current system specs are as follows:
3.33GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon processor, 16GB (4x4GB) RAM, Bay 1: 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s, Bay 2: 512GB SSD, Bay 3: 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s, Bay 4: 1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s, ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB, Two 18x SuperDrives.
My questions are:
1.     Reading the thread on Generic Guidelines for Disk Setup I plan to use the 4 Disk setup described. If I only have 1 SSD, should I make it C: D: E: or F:? My priority would be the editing speed rather than the exporting speed.
2.     If I can stretch my budget to include another SSD then again, should I make it C: D: E: or F:?
Thanks in advance for any advice.

Hi Harm (& Jim),
After much deliberation I agree with you and Jim. I am not sure what I was thinking!
I have decided to build my own machine based around your reccomendations in previous posts. Could you please look over the system specifications and offer any suggestions or comments?
Chassis
Lian Li PC-A77
$ 375.00
PSU
Corsair CMPSU-850AX Professional Series Gold AX850 PSU
$ 210.00
Motherboard
Asus P9x79 WS Motherboard
$ 469.00
CPU
Intel Core i7 3930K 3.2GHz CPU
$ 615.00
CPU cooler
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Universal CPU Cooler
$ 40.00
RAM
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL10Q-32GBXL 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3
$ 285.00
GPU
Gigabyte GV-N66TOC-2GD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2048M
$ 319.00
Disk
SAMSUNG MMSASSD840P128 SAMSUNG 840 PRO SERIES 128GB SSD
$ 135.00
Disk
(3 of) Western Digital WD VelociRaptor 1TB 10,000RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard Drives
Owned
Disk
(2 of) Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 3.5" 2TB SATA 6.0Gb/s Hard Drives
$ 320.00
Burner
LG BH16NS40.AYBU10B LGE OEM BH16NS40 BLK BluRay Burner, 14xBD-R Read/ Write, 16xDVD+-R Read/ Write, SATA, Silt Play, M-Disc Support [BH16NS40.AYBU10B]
$ 88.00
TOTAL BUILD COST in Australian Dollars
$ 2856.00
I have a few questions if you would be kind enough to help.
Is the RAM specified compatible with the rest of my system?
Do you think the GPU is over spec? Could you recommend an alternative if so?
What would be the optimal disk configuration with the proposed disks? I would consider another WD Black if it would make a significant difference.
Do you have any other suggestions where this system could be improved whilst keeping the budget around the same value?
Many thanks,
Rich

Disk setup help

NOTE: I've seen the Tweakers page on disk setup which was helpful but I guess a quick clarification of my setup below would be nice.
I'm currently editing on an 2011 iMac with an added internal SSD for the OS and Program and wanted to know how best to use my other drives.
WORKFLOW: I edit AVCHD footage mostly and use warp stabilizer effect a TON. Also, all my footage is 60p but edited on a 24p timeline. Oh and I don't usually render stuff. Each project (event) has about 50gb of footage and when it's done, I offload it and start a new one in the same way.
DRIVES I CURRENTLY OWN: I have essentially 4 drives.
1) Internal 128GB SSD
2) External Samsung 840 Pro SSD connected via Thunderbolt adapter
3&4) Two external 2TB HDDs in RAID0 (4TB total) connected to a La Cie Thunderbolt adapter.
Tweakers page suggests putting media cache on the SSD. Okay then. I'm all for that.
Proposed SETUP:
So should I do something like this?:
OS, Program = Internal SSD
Media, Project files, EXPORTS = 4TB RAID0 (I'm okay with the risk of exports being on the RAID0 because the files are quickly burned to disc and uploaded online)
Media Cache, Preview (again, I don't really have previews I don't think so maybe I should put exports here??) = Samsung 840 Pro SSD (128gb)
What do you think? And where should I put my auto-saves? I'd put it on the RAID0 too but then if that drive fails I'd have no back up of my project file which is what happened to me this summer with my old HDD.
Thanks!

Is one of these setups better than another and why?
For Media Cache Files & Database...
1) Have it on a separate fast SSD as suggested before.
2) Have it on the fast internal SSD since I have TONS of extra Space. This SSD gets that fastest read/write speeds.
3) Have it on the fast exteranl SSD that holds the media/project files since I have lots of extra space on there too and Premiere allows one to "save media cache files next to media files when possible" so that makes it easy to clean when I'm done with that project.
QUESTION 1: Originally I had planned on #1, but I already have drives #1 and #2 so is their any real advantage to #1 and if so, why?
QUESTION 2: And of the options #2 and #3, which one is best and why?

Disk Setup Recommendation (1xssd,1x7200rpm,1x5400rpm)

@Hi!
Any recommendation on how I should set up my disks for Premiere?
I currently have one ssd, one 1TB 7200rpm black western digital and one 2TB 5400rpm green western digital hard drive.
I tried following this guide Generic Guideline for Disk Setup but would greatly appreciate a confirmation.
Follow up question, would adding a second 640GB 5400rpm hard drive for a total of 2 green western digital drives help anything? If not then I will just leave the 640GB disk as an external and not take it apart.
Thank you for your time.
-owbert

Don't use green drives. Get another 7200 RPM drive and use the green drive for backups only.

Hard Disk Setup for Video Editing

Dear Forum.
My name is Tom Woods and I was hoping that you may be able to advise me or point me in the right direction, in regards to the question below....
: ) Im not sure if you are in this area or not, my apologies to you if this is the case.. Here goes..
I'm thinking of getting Adobe Production Premium installed where ill be using Photoshop, After Effects, and Premier Pro, and need some advice on my current Disk Setup to maximize performance to work with editing HD 1080i video.
My question is;
"Which of my internal 'Disks', do I assign the following processes to, these processes are;
Photoshop: SCRATCH DISK
After Effects: DISK CACHE
Premier Pro: SCRATCH DISK Captured Video / SCRATCH DISK Captured Audio / SCRATCH DISK Video Previews / SCRATCH DISK Audio Previews
Premier Pro: MEDIA CACHE FILES / DATABASE
And finally the recorded Video 'parts' ready for editing, and the 'previews', and then the 'saved project file'.
My current Disk setup is:
C: SSD - 90GB (quite full)
D: SSD - still considering size to purchase
E: SSD - still considering size to purchase
F: HDD - 500 GB (currently used for all Video Parts and all work)
*Also, for drives D & E, what 'SIZE' in GB would they need to be for assigning the Scratch, Cache and other files mentioned above? (when i purchase them)*
If you can help me out with this it would be totally amazing, im really stuck and finding internet advice very unclear..
I appreciate you will be busy but I thought I would try here first for some help! Thank you so much for reading this so far...
My Best regards to you
Timmy

Tom,
Let's start with the terminology. Once you understand that, things will become a lot easier.
MEDIA: Name for all the raw material you shot, whether video or pictures or audio recordings. It does not matter whether this was captured from tape based video cameras, or imported from card or disk based cameras.
MEDIA CACHE: When Media are imported into a project, PR automatically creates three kind of files that are stored in the location you set up in the Preferences. They are .IMS files or indexed files, .CFA or conformed audio files and last .PEK files, that display the audio waveform in the timeline.
MEDIA CACHE DATABASE: Also automatically created by PR and contains pointers to the files in the Media Cache.
Note that occasionally the Media Cache and Media Cache Database can become corrupted and in that case it is a good idea to Clean the Media Cache from Preferences. When opening a project indexing, conforming and generation of PEK files is automatically done. Just be a bit patient for that process to finish.
PREVIEWS: Also called RENDER files. When you render a timeline to turn the red bar into a green bar for preview purposes, PR stores .XMP files in the PRV directory location you have set in the Project Settings.
Media files are typically very large and require a good sustained sequential read speed. Once ingested (imported or captured) they remain unchanged, because PR is a non-destructive editor. On the one hand this makes a SSD an ideal type of disk, because it is only reading the media files and not writing, but the size may be the limiting factor.
Media cache files are typically small and many, so here sustained R/W transfer rates are important, making it less than ideal to put them on a SSD, because the major drawback of SSD's is their limited and finite number of writes.
Now Tom, to your specific situation:
C: SSD for OS & programs.
D: HDD for media and projects (because of the size of the media and frequent changes in projects).
E: SSD for static page-file and exports.
F: SSD for media cache and previews, although a HDD may give you better life expectancy but also slower performance.
Maybe this article can be helpful as well, because it shows the impact of codecs on your system: Adobe Forums: What PC to build? An update...
You may have to get additional HDD's for raid configuations, if you edit 4K material or 422 material, because it is all about transfer rates.
To give you a rough indications of what you can expect from your drives, I suggest you get HD Tune Pro to test for yourself, but here are some indicative figures:
SSD: R around 450 MB/s, W around 300 MB/s, depending on the brand/model in steady state with SATA 6G. SATA 3G is far slower. Sandforce controllers may top out around 250 MB/s W.
HDD: R around 150 MB/s, W around 140 MB/s

New Disk setup help

I"d like to ask your help, or suggetions.I read the forum lots of conversations about disk setup, but Im not sure this is a good choice.I planned this setup:I have lga2011 platform.
C : OCZ revodrive X2 160GB - OS ( I already have )
D : 2* 1TB Samsung SpinpointF3 7200rpm HD103SJ RAID 0 - Media cache, previews, pagefile
( I already have )
E : 4* 1TB 7200rpm RAID 3 for media, project files - WD RE4 1 TB ( WD1003FBYX) or
                                                                                 - Saegate Barracuda ST1000DM003 or
                                                                                 - Samsung SP F3
    I dont have yet, HItachi too expensive for me.
F : Corsair Force 3 240GB SSD - AE CS6 Global Preformance cache ( I already have it)
G : Samsung 830 128GB SSD - Exports ( I dont have yet)
+ a RAID controller.I looked out Areca 1182ix/12, but Im afraid its too expensive for this setup.
- Do you know other type RAID controller which good for this config?
- What do you think about drive E, what is the good choice?
- Same question about drive G ?
Any advice would help!Thanks in advance.

+ a RAID controller.I looked out Areca 1182ix/12, but Im afraid its too expensive for this setup.
Is that a typo and did you mean the 1882ix/12? With a plethora of disks in your configuration, maybe the 8-port version would suffice and save some $$.
For the E: drive I think the RE4 is a good choice. The Samsung F3 is a good second IMO.
For the G: drive the Samsung is a good choice, much more affordable than the Corsair Performance Pro and almost as fast. I would suggest a 256 GB version to have some more space however.

New Disk Setup - 4 SSDs, 3 HDs - what {not} to RAID

I am building a new machine (a first for me & with 2 years of savings) and will finally have a powerful machine to work (using a 2009 Macbook Pro for 4 years).
I have purchased the following:
Samsung 840 Pro SSD- 256GB - 2 nos. (seq. read/write 500+)
Samsung 840 (nonPro) - 128GB - 2 nos. (seq. read ~500 but write only ~125)
Seagate 7200rpm HD - 2TB - 3 nos.
And my plan is to use
C: > Samsung 840 Pro 256GB : OS and Applications
D: > Samsung 840 Pro 256GB: Previews and Renders
E: > Samsung 840 128GB x 2 RAID-0 : Footage
F: > Seagate 2TB x 2 RAID-0 HDD : Exports and General Personal Files (like Docs, Music)
G: > Seagate 2TB : Dedicated solely as Backup Drive for crictical data at a given time (taking manual backups on old external drives).
Can someone please give me feedback on this setup and recommendations on which to use for what all.
Let me know any input or suggestion you may have like maybe a totally different setup (like all SSDs independent and 3xHDDs as RAID-0).
I am also particularly looking for suggestions of which ports on my MoBo to connect these to.
I am using a ASUS P9X79 Pro so have 8 Ports - 2xSATA3 Intel, 2xSATA3 Marvell, 4xSATA2.
And fyi I am using an Intel i7 3930K, Gigabyte GTX770 4GB and 64GB RAM.
I posted this question 1 week ago along with PC build (http://forums.adobe.com/message/5464227).
I got valuable suggestions on the build part (like cooling and upgrading RAM) but am still looking for more inputs on disk setup.
Thanks for your time.

I don't like RAID 0. It's just a bad idea for anything that you can't lose. Fine for things like cache and previews, though. But you don't have enough drives to go around for that. The idea is to get the five basic drives in place first - OS/Projects/Cache/Media/Exports - and only once those are in place should you consider making a RAID of any kind. After those five, you had two left, both smaller SSDs, but not the same model, so it made more sense to get that data security for the Projects, which left one drive. AE Global Cache is a good use for SSDs.
The non-Pro 840's may be slower by comparison, but their write performance isn't critical used in the suggested way (and they'll still write faster than a hard drive).

How do you change the default User in Windows 7 on a non-RAIDed 4 disk setup?

Hi.
I have installed Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit on Darling my new machine, which has a four-disk setup without RAID, like this:
SSD OCZ -OS, Programs (C:)
WD 2002FEAX - Media Projects (D:)
WD 1002FAEX - Pagefile, Media Cache (E:)
WD 1002FAEX - Previews, Exports (F:)
This setup, and because it’s unRAIDed (four separate disks), created the User file in the OS disk, right under the Programs (x86) folder, which at times causes files, which are not programs, to automatically be saved in the User file that's in the Programs disk, when in fact Programs disk is NOT meant for storage.
Further, I cannot save stuff in My Documents because that directory leads the files (that I am saving) to the User folder in the OS disk, forcing me to navigate out of there and into an alternative disk, which is time consuming, more so than if i had a directory leading to D disk.
So, I am wondering, can anyone help me change my directory to establish the default User folder in any folder other than C?
Or, if can someone refer me to Windows 7 tutorials, resourses, that are a tad more than Dummy level.
I have heard that changing around the directory as such can mess with the OS, and though not at Dummy level, I’m quite new to PC and profusely insecure about making changes to Darling at all.
Thanks.

Hi folks.
I would like to update you about what happened regarding my wish to move the User location to another hard disk. Heeding your warning, i did NOT attempt that, but rather, moved the location of the My Documents folder in my Library, from its default place on (SSD) disk C:/ (which is the default location because that's where i installed Windows 7,) to another disk - D:/ called "Media Projects".
Here is how my directory looked before i made the change, my three hard disks were outside the Library directory that's on my SSD (Programs disk):
(I did that by right-clicking the My Documents folder in the left column of a browser window, to access the Location tab.)
What this did is, it put driver D:/ under Documents, which is under Library, see picture, which now enables saving documents quickly, by going from my Library directly to my D drive, however it eliminated the "My Documents" folder/possibility all together from the left-column list of folders in the Windows Explorer browser pane.
I am now trying to do the same with Music, Pictures, and Videos, i.e. to move them to D drive, but am unable to do so because right-clicking those icons in the directory does not produce the Location tab in Properties panel, and nor does right-clicking inside the files themselves.
Similarly, right-clicking Downloads, which i also want to have residing in my D drive, does NOT produce a Location tab in properties pane, though it does seem possible to change the directory manually...see picture.....but am wary....
I am still monitoring my new system, and will see if and how this change effects my system's performance.
Thanks.

LoginModule with JAAS, setup question for Frank Nimphius

Hi Frank,
i am trying to use a custom LoginModule in conjuction with the setup procedure in your "J2EE Security in Oracle ADF Web Applications" white paper. Have you done this before? can you provide roadmap for additional/alternate setup steps needed to use a LoginModule?
this is my original post from early this week:
JAAS Setup question
thanks,
brenden

Brenden,
please refer to the OC4J security documentation which si a part of the Oracle Application Server documentation that can be looked up online here on OTN. Custom LoginModule configurations require OC4J 9.0.4. In addition, this feature also only works with the jazn-data.xml provider and not with OID.
From the perspective of this whitepaper, the LoginModule will be used by the OC4J container to authenticate users and thus should not require any change in teh paper.
I haven't yet had the time created an example and document that showcases how to do this. Hopefully christmas will give me some rest to look into this.
Frank

Laptop upgrade - low budget disk setup

Hi,
I have read many great posts in this forum about this topic (especially about disk setup byHarm Millaard ). However, I feel a bit overwhelmed with all the data. My laptop is quite old and weak (maybe too weak) for Premiere Pro/After Effects in terms of usability. Before I start investing in new PC, I would like to give my current one a try. I am wondering if proper disk setup (scratch disk) would make a difference.
My budget would allow me to choose one of the below options:
a)one external ~128 GB SSD drive (USB 3 or eSATA),
b)one 7200 rpm external HDD (USB 3 or eSATA), eventually TWO
c)other disk setup suggestions within such budget?
d)other non-disk setup suggestions?
I produce 1080p videos, up to ~5 minutes duration.
My current laptop specs:
Dell Studio 1555
Processor: Core 2 Duo 2,4 GHz
RAM: 4GB
1 HDD: 500 GB 7200 rpm 16 mb cache sata
1 external 1TB 5200 rpm HDD USB 3 (I use it for backup at the moment)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570 512 MB
eSATA
USB 3 (will use a epxress card with USB 3)
Thanks in advance,
Kamil

....when I first started...trying to edit HD content with PPro CS4, I had a laptop like yours. At the time, I didnt know ANYTHING and foolishly BELIEVED the "minimum requirements" listed by Adobe to use PPro. I wound up pulling my hair out as NOTHING would work...EVERYTHING froze up. Then, I started reading HERE on this forum posts by Harm Millard, Bill Gherke, and others about what REALLY was needed to run this professional level software.Temporarily, I discovered I could " transcode" the highly compressed ORIGINAL clips into another codec that the laptop could edit. This is something you can try with the free Cineform codec, available at GoPro website.
However, your machine is TERMINAL....a remnant of the past...you need to take it to a FIRING RANGE and yell PULL as you throw it into the air and witness its destruction via a loud shotgun blast !!! What you want is to edit NATIVELY the original footage in an easy manner. PPro has since improved GREATLY...now, its entirely 64 bit and has MANY improvements that have improved performance SIGNIFICANTLY.
You are going to need an i7 machine that is hyperthreaded,that runs over 3 Ghz, that has 32 GB system memory,that has a good NVidia graphics card,7xx series,or, better. Then,fast storage is a great help with performance. Using ONE quality SSD for OS, programs and pagefile is a MUST. Windows 8.1 is BEST because it does NOT have the memory limit of Windows 7 Home premium of 16GB, and HAS better support for USB 3 devices. Just get a new machine ...you can do FINE with a Haswell laptop with memory maxxed out and Crucial M550 SSDs in it,( 2 drive bays)...AND the 7xx series, ( or better), mobile NVidia GPU.
Or, build a new Haswell E based desktop machine....the mid- level CPU is affordable with great 6 core performance.

Disk setup dilemma. HELP!

Hello there,
Currently, I have 3 x 2TB HDD, 1 x 1TB HDD in my Mac Pro and here is my disk setup :
1 x 1TB 7200rpm HDD = OS and Applications
3 x 2TB HDD 7200rpm (RAID 0) = Everything else (Media, Projects, Exports, Previews, Media Cache)
From what I've heard and read, it is better to dedicated drives for certain files.
I'm planning to buy a 512gb SSD for my OS and applications (going to put this SSD in my 2nd optical drive's free bay). So I wonder which disk setup is the best for doing intensive editing in Premiere Pro and animations + effects in After Effects (currently using CS5.5 but planning to upgrade to CS6).
Here is my 2 setup that I have in mind :
Setup 1
1 x 512gb SSD = OS and Applications
3 x 2TB HDD (RAID 0) = Media, Projects, Previews, Exports
1 x 1TB HDD = Media Cache
Setup 2
1 x 1TB HDD = OS and Applications
3 x 2TB HDD (RAID 0) = Media, Projects, Previews, Exports
1 x 512gb (or 256gb) SSD = Media Cache
Setup 3
1 x 512gb SSD = OS and Applications
2 x 2TB HDD (RAID 0) = Media, Projects
1 x 2TB HDD = Previews, Exports
1 x 1TB HDD = Media Cache
Setup 4
1 x 1TB HDD = OS and Applications
2 x 2TB HDD (RAID 0) = Media, Projects
1 x 2TB HDD = Previews, Exports
1 x 512gb (or 256gb) SSD = Media Cache
Some say that I should also have a dedicated drive for exports as well. But if I use 1 drive for both exports and previews, it's still okay in terms of the read/write workflow isn't it?
So, which setup is the best for performance for editing and rendering in Premiere Pro and After Effects? Or if you have other suggestions, please do tell me as well. Please do help me because I'm starting a new project soon and need to set everything as soon as possible. Many thanks!
*NOTE : I have a 4TB external HDD for backups*
Regards,
Ash

Ash,
You state neither your processor(s) type or RAM here, however it is pretty likely that with the aresanal of drives that you have you will not bee too bottlenecked in the drive area. And too, various tweaks to how you configure your drives will probably not make that measurable of a difference. Certainly putting more drive power in the areas that you want to perform best could also be considered a personal choice in a sense. If you rarely export, don't put much in that area. If you export frequently, assign more / faster drive(s) to that task.
That being said, here's how I would start out if I were mounting your drives in a PC, assuming that your big SSD has decent write performance (at least 200 MB/s):
SSD - OS, programs, media cache, media cache DB
1TB - exports
3x2TB RAID 0 - everything else
I've got to qualify too that I have no clue how Apple deals with RAM and disk caching, but Windows 7/8 does a pretty good job of using spare RAM (not tied up by programs) for disk caching so that RAID 0 arrays can multi-task pretty well on simultaneous reads and writes. And, when you are doing big reads, RAID 0 really does provide quite a bit more kick than single rotating drives, even 7200 rpm models.
Regards,
Jim

Rebuilding my disk setup

One year ago I started a topic here to ask for a proper disk setup and I ended up with the following configuration:
- 1 x Samsung 128GB SSD840 Pro for OS and appz
- 2 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB in RAID0 for scratch
- 1 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB for projects and media
- 1 x Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB for exporting
It was good but not fully satisfying. Exporting was fast but preview wasn't smooth and RAID HDDs were working very, very loud. Few weeks ago I had to take off one of RAID HDDs and I believe that now Premiere works and renders faster than previously. Should I stay in this new configuration of try something else with RAID? Maybe I did something wrong before?

Do you have an available PCIe x2 slot? If you do like I now have get a Plextor M6e PCIe SSD And forget RAID these PCIe boards get 700 MB/sec read speeds and well over 500 MB/s write times as seen below
Many benchmarks do not show the same with real live applications. But with our PPBM7 Disk I/O write time benchmark score of 66 seconds or 562 MB/second, you can see below the Plextor is a magnificent SSD. If you can go that way try loading your project and media on it or just use it for export and see which method gives you the best performance with your media/workflow.

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