Displaying feedbacks from reviewers to approver
Hello,
My requirement is to design a simple document approval workflow with following requirements:
1. Initiator shall initiate the workflow manually in a document library and select the manual reviewers (multiple) and a approver.
2. Workflow will send the document to all reviewers at a time.
3. Once all reviewers submitted their feedbacks, workflow will send the document to approver for approval. Workflow shall display all feedback to approver.
I've successfully completed all the steps except one thing which is to display all feedback to approver. I've tried all the task actions.
Can anyone guide how to customize the approval form to display all the feedback?
As almost all of the requirements are achievable using SPD workflow so i'm not much interested to go for VS workflow unless SPD doesn't provide any functionality to display multiple feedback on the approver form.
Regards,
sohaib
Sohaib Khan
Thanks Lakshmanan for your quick response.
I've checked the url you're shared and it's all about initiation form where user will enter the required information. I'm done with my initiation form.
The step where i stuck up is to fetch all the feedbacks and display those to approver.
Regards,
Sohaib
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