Distribution of common expenses
Hi,
I have following scenario.-
My client is operating a multistorey mall. There are around 200 tenants in the mall. The common expenses is factored in the rental and if it exceeds than the projected it is recovered at the year end. Now to calculate the exact amount applicable to each tenant I need to divide these expenses, which I dont want to bifurcate at the Gl entry level as it will create many line items may be in thousands per month may be based on cost center wise or re object wise.
How this can be done on monthly basis. I have one option to do it bases on creating cost center for each tenant and running distribution at each month end. Any other option is available to distribute the common expenses on rental through RE and get the report at the end of the year.
Regards
Milind Sonalkar
Milind,
There are couple of ways to do this and I am sure others may suggest many more. If I understand you correctly you want to bill the tenants for their share of the expenses with the settlement to respective Rentals for reporting purpose. About the division of the exp, it depends on do you want to do it based on usage or similar measurement of any kind?
1. You can set up service charge settlement and make all the rentals participate in the settlement. Create an Invoice for the total expense and settle through the settlement Participating Group. Which will distribute the cost to each rental. Month end or whenever you execute the settlement run this can be done.
2. You can also think of Sales based condition and assign a default on every rental participating in this type of expense. You can set up a nominal charge and post during sales based settlement run. If the actual is more than the projected you can always re run the difference. Also, you have sales based reporting tools to update at contract level the actual. Once these have posted, same concept CO settlement and from GL to respective Rentals and you are good for reporting.
Settlement from Contract or Order etc will not be a bigi as you can do settlement for the Rentals, per cost element configure and assign the settlement rules and execute settlement at month end.
Jag
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Can you please tell me if the SAP system has the
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What is it called.
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Hi Experts,
I have a issue on common expenses within two company codes, that is
When the new employee joins into the company, company will provide a medical insurance to that new employee, say we have 2 company codes X and Y, for all employees medical insurances for X & Y will take care company X only.
Process as follows:
1.When the new employee joins, company X sends a mail to insurance company for medical Insu.
2.Once Medical Insu. received, this was send to employee department it may be other company u201CYu201D or same company u201CXu201D(department = Cost Center)
3.Insurance Company will send a debit note to the company for Medical Insu. Charges.
4.Once the debit note is received, check the calculated amount and send it to Company X or Y which department it should be charged.
For the above process how to book the entries in Companyu201D Xu201D and Company u201CYu201D.
Please give some idea on the process.
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Gopi.PHi,
In may openion create 2 cost centers for X and Y in Company X only because all the insurance payments will be made by Company X only as you said.
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If we want to use Distribution rules to allocate expenses as a percentage of the total expense amount how can we do it?
RegardsDear Vishal,
Please check the following thread for more information :
SAP Business One Application
SAP Business One Application
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Dear All,
What is common distribution channel & common division ? What is the use of it ?
Regards
RakeshHi
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KIMYONG: AP Invoice Distributions 에서 Track As Asset 사용법
Purpose
Invioc 등록시 asset 계정이 아닌 expense 계정도 FA로 넘기기 위해서는
track as asset을 사용합니다. 이에대한 설명을 하고자 합니다.
Solution
The Navigation Path 는 아래와 같습니다.
Payables>Invoices>Entry>Invoices
Press Distributions button
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this distributions to Oracle Assets during Create Mass Additions execution.
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afterwards.
Default로 Asset account일경우 track as asset이 check됩니다.
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Reference
Oracle Payables User's Guide, Assets IntegrationHi,
Altough for all the assets accounts track as an asset checked there wont be any entries transferred to Fixed assets unless otherwise you have defined that asset account as a clearing account in your categoris.
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Is it possible multiple line items debit & single line item credit and different cost centers and different profit centers
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pk GL a/c description amount cost center profit center
40 400101 telephone exp 500 1403 P 1000
40 400101 telephone exp 100 1404 P 2000
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This you can do it in two ways:
1. Make three header under top level....one Product A, 2nd Product B ( as Billing element) and third as Common expense ( only cost). Now 1st & 2 nd WBS, you have to have sales order linking with individual lint item, for third you will accumulate all the common expense till the period end then make a reposting of the same in desired proportion to both products WBS hierarchy
(This is if you want to have a track on the common expense as well.......like planning, budgeting & control)
After this reposting, run RA for individual billing element and hence you will all the complement detailing and control over Revenue and expense with respect to Product A and Product B individually.
2. If you don't want to maintain that kind of detailing the common expense and keep track of it through project, then have cost centers accordingly and make an assesment/ distribution with respect to expenses accumulated at those cost centers for the period to the respective WBS under each product. Then execute the period end processes for the project.
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I hope this should help you.
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Avisek Bhardwaj -
Multiple Line Items - PS/SD/ PP - Scenario
Dear Experts,
Please advise on the following:-
There are two products, like Product A - 2 Nos, and Product B - 3 Nos, will be manufactured for a project order.
Finished product will be attached in the project structure and will be manufactured in house through PP module. Material planning will be done thorugh project MRP.
A sales order will be created with two line items, Product A - 2 Nos, and Product B - 3 Nos.
Root level WBS element will be linked with sales order header level for milestone billing.
Is it possible to see the cost and selling price comparison of product A and product B through this settings, as they are different type of product and their selling price are different.
Can the system apportioned the cost of sales based on the selling price of the product A and Product B.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanking you.
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1. Make three header under top level....one Product A, 2nd Product B ( as Billing element) and third as Common expense ( only cost). Now 1st & 2 nd WBS, you have to have sales order linking with individual lint item, for third you will accumulate all the common expense till the period end then make a reposting of the same in desired proportion to both products WBS hierarchy
(This is if you want to have a track on the common expense as well.......like planning, budgeting & control)
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Or
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I hope this should help you.
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Cost crentre creation date - norms
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Is it mandatory to create cost centers always with effect from the first date of the month or I can create the same on any date?
Suppose I have created a cost centre on 02.12.07 and have posted to a cost element for the first time on 09.12.07 and want to run to distribution cycle on 09.12.07 itself...will it work?
Do I need to follow any norms reagading dates for creation of cost elements...mean to say...if the cost element date is prior to creation of cost centre, will that give me trouble while settling..or the vice versa.
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ABIt controls two imp parameters
cost center will be active based on your from and to dates.
this will also used to control different parameters for different periods ex. different person responsible for different time frames.
no relation with cost elements. when u post document it will see wether cost element and cost are active on the perticular day.
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