Doubt in plug account

hi all,
i have a doubt:
Suppose there are 5 plug account, how do we can identify which one belongs to that particular ICaccount.
Thanks in Advance,

Go to Manage Metadata -> Open the Account dimension -> Check the value in PlugAcct. That is the plug account associated with the account.
Not sure if this is what you meant.
But if you are asking which plug accounts should be used for the accounts, then it is a question for your functional team. They usually give you the plug account associated with the ICP account.

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Hi - we are running an ICP Matching report (standard setup without any custom consolidation logic). The balance in the report does not tie to the balance for the Plug account that we ran the report for - Intercompany report uses plug account as the parameter to generate the report.
For this grouping of accounts, we have both P/L and Balance sheet accounts plugging to the same Interco plug account. While we understand this is not standard practice, mixing the different account types in the same Plug account, could this be causing our issue?
Does the IC Plug accounts generate Periodic values for Income Statement accounts?
Any guidance is much appreciated.

We separated the expense account from the liability accounts - we also created a rule to capture the prior year YTD plug account balance in the current month. This solved our issue.

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I am having an issue with elimination, let me start with basic question, I believe HFM does allow that Account can have it self Plug Account , ( i.e If A#123 its Plug is also 123), if that is true then, according to bu req, for A#456 and A#557 out of balance debit/credit is A#557 ( It means Plug Account is 557 ) so in metadata i have defined properties for A#456 and A#557 Plug = 557, we have two custom dim, according to rule based on ICP parent decendants at very 1st common parent it will eliminate an entry, after running rule i can see for A#456 its value has been assigned in "Elimination" bucket however for 557 i see zero eventhough 557 has $100 in its "Entity Currency"
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I can't say I've ever tried this approach, but I don't think it makes any logical sense to make an intercompany account act as it's own plug account. I recommend creating a second account for the plug. When HFM performs the elimination, it will write the negative value back to each side of the intercompany pair, and write the offsetting positive values to the plug. In your case I suspect you will only get the same values, meaning that the account will not actually eliminate. The behavior here is true for all versions of HFM, not specific to any release.
--Chris

Plug accounts issues

Hi guys,
I'm not quite sure of having understand plug accounts and I have some issues with eliminations right now.
I have tree accounts with the same plug account.
Father1
Child1- PlugAccount1
Child2- PlugAccount1
Child3- PlugAccount1
PlugAccount1
The application works with default consolidation. My problem is that the PlugAccount it's showing a weird resulta at some entity level. The entities are as follows:
Entity0
EntityA
EntityB1
EntityC1 EntityC2 (those are te IC partners)
Plugaccount1 shows value in EntityB1 (the difference) and also in EntityA and Entity0. Is this usual? Should it roll out to all the parents? PlugAccount1 has value in EC, ECT, PC, PCT and Elimination... Is it right?
I'd really appreciate your comments.
Thank you!
Lu
Edited by: user6351237 on 13-dic-2011 22:59

Hello
If you want the elimination to work and you do not want to use the default rule you have to follow the next step
1. In the app setting mark ConsolidationRule=Y
2.Upload the consolidate rule, I am send in you an example in the last part of this mail
3Entitys property isICP, flag Y in each entity that you are going to have intercompany transactions
4Account flag s isicp for the plug account and the account that you want to have intercompany transactions
The eliminations are going to appear in elimination in the child . SO it will not consolidate to the parent.
I hope it help
sofia
Sub Consolidate() 'consolidation rules (if app does not use default this section is used to consolidate
Dim MyDataUnit
Dim lNumItems
Dim dPCon
Set MyDataUnit = HS.OpenDataUnit("")
dPCon = HS.Node.PCon("")
lNumItems = MyDataUnit.GetNumItems
for i = 0 to lNumItems-1
' Get the next item from the dataunit
call MyDataUnit.GetItem(i, strAccount, strICP, strCustom1, strCustom2, strCustom3, strCustom4, dData)
' See if this is a consolidatable account
If HS.Account.IsConsolidated(strAccount) Then
' Proportionalize this account
call HS.Con("",dPCon,"Proporción")
' see if we should eliminate this account
call Eliminate(strAccount, strICP)
End If
next
End sub
Sub Eliminate (strAccount, strICP) 'intercompany elimination rules
Dim CanEliminate
Dim strPlug
Dim dPCon
CanEliminate = TRUE
NegatePlug = FALSE
If (StrComp(strICP, "[ICP None]", vbTextCompare) = 0) Then
CanEliminate = FALSE
ElseIf (HS.Account.IsICP(strAccount) = FALSE) Then
CanEliminate = FALSE
ELSEIF (HS.Node.ISDESCENDANT(HS.PARENT.Member,strICP,"") = FALSE) THEN
CanEliminate = FALSE
'ElseIf (HS.PARENT.ISDESCENDANT(strICP,"") = FALSE) Then
'CanEliminate = FALSE
Else
strPlug = HS.Account.PlugAcct(strAccount)
'HS.Parent.IsDescendant("I#[ICP Top]", "")
If (strPlug = "") Then CanEliminate = FALSE
End If
If CanEliminate Then
dPCon = HS.Node.PCon("")
call HS.Con("V#[Elimination]",-1*dPCon,"Eliminacion interco")
call HS.Con("V#[Elimination].A#" & strPlug,dPCon,"Eliminacion interco")
End If
End Sub

Plug Account

Can any one explain me how to determine/set the Account Type for a Plug Account?
Thanks,
Vikas

It depends how you are going to use that plug account
Lets say, u tag A Computer as Asset bcoz it is going to be used and denoted as Asset.
If you are using Plug account to contain value for Asset then u tag it as Asset, likewise for others.
So it depends on what functionality it is going to perform and to where it is going to be aggregated.
* there can be other logics/ fundamentals also that others will be using for deciding this
Regards,
J

Importance of plug Account

Hi,
Please explain me about the Plug Acocunt in HFM with an example..

Though the information about "Plug Account" with example is already discussed in "Discussion Forum" sending you again:
Plug account is primarily used for storing the differences arising out of Intercompany Transactions.
A plug account is a "technical" way to keep the individual balance sheet balanced.
For example, let's consider that a company A has an interco with company B on receivables for 50 with a total assets of 1000. Without plug account, the elimination of this amount in value [Elimination] will lead to the following situation in the contribution total of entity A : Assets = 950 (1000-50) and liabilities = 1000. That is why we use a plug account in that case (+50 for A and -50 for B).
In the rules, we usually call the plug account in the consolidate subroutine with an HS.Con * 1 for the interco account and HS.Con * (-1) for the plug account.
To get the plug account, we use this line : Plug="A#" & HS.Account.PlugAcct("")
Same calculation for A and B will lead to an amount of 0 (+50 - 50) in the plug account in the total consolidation figures.
Plug accounts exist in HFM and Enterprise primarily for use in intercompany elimination as explained by Guerin.
As a new user of HFM, you can just treat plug account as another Account dimension attribute like UD1..3 with its own HS.Account.PlugAcct("") call to retrieve the value. How Plug Account behaves in consolidation is totally governed by your rule. You are free to use Plug Account attribute for another purpose in HFM.
Also, please have a look at the below HFM Admin guide link with more information on Plug Account:
http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17236_01/epm.1112/hfm_admin.pdf

ICP Reports based on Plug Accounts

Dears,
I would like to set up ICP reports by inserting the plug account only.
I have a staged consolidation. Do I need to create a separate tree where all the entities are included in a flat way?
Tx!

Hi there,
There is no reason for a seperate tree.
The eliminations take place at first common parent. So, if you create a report that check one entity against the others, the system should produce the correct differences. Since you are yusing the plug account, pay attention to the account type attribute of each account.

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My question is how is this happening ? wat settings is been carried out if price control is V' it is to material and S' it is to the price difference accoount itself . wat is the configuration to be done ?
regards,
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In this application I am maintaining, there is a plugAcct that is account type liability. The source accounts for this plug account are revenue, expense, asset, and liability (approx 30 accts). The data in the source accounts balances perfectly by entity. That is, the credits exactly equal the debits in the source accounts, so the plug account should net to zero at the base entity level (value dimension = elimination). However, there is a balance in the plug account at the base entity level (value dimension member = elimination). What is happening is that when eliminations are calculated they are using periodic values for the flow type accounts. The balance in the plugAcct is equal to the prior months YTD total. So only the current month activity is being eliminated. I changed the account type for the plugAcct to revenue (from liability) and tried again. This did not resolve the problem. There is no custom consolidation logic in this application. The scenario is configured for YTD numbers (it is an Actuals scenario). Balances are always loaded YTD. And yes it is fully consolidated.
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Till recently everything was going fine with the calculations in our HFM setup ( Version 4.1)
We have say around 8 Expense accounts which roll up into a Parent account say ALL446 which finally rolls up into Operating Expenses.
Operating Expenses
|__ parent account
      |_INVALO
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          |__222446
          |__242446
And we have a calculation in the rule file as below
HS.EXP "A#BE FIXED COST = A#Operating Expenses +A#SGA - A#BE VC OP F10"
This was calculating correctly till we did the below change
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and if I add & Tops to the account like below ( getting some weird number instead of what is there in acct2)
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1) Where exactly I am going wrong ?
2) Is it MANDATORY to have a Plugaccount attribute when we have IsICP turned to "R" ?
3) What will happen if we do not have a Plugaccount for the IsICP account ?
4) How to correct the formula to make sure I get the number in the acct2 into Fixed Cost??
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Notes:
BE Fixed Cost-> account type -"Expense", IsCalculated - yes, IsConsolidated - yes, IsICP- N, Custom1TopMember - AllFunctions, Custom3TopMember- AllCustom3, enabled allcustom1,2,3,4aggregations
Operating Expenses->"Expense", IsCalculated - No, IsConsolidated - yes, IsICP- N, Custom1TopMember - AllFunctions, Custom3TopMember- AllCustom3, enabled allcustom1,2,3,4aggregations
INVALO ->"Expense", IsCalculated - No, IsConsolidated - yes, IsICP- N, Custom1TopMember -none, Custom3TopMember- none,
enabled allcustom1,2,3,4aggregations
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DefCurrency - DEM, Allowadjs- enabled, IsICP - enabled, Userdefined 2 - financial, - SecurityasPartner attribute - is not selected through out the applicaiton.
Variable
Tops = ".I#[ICP Top].C1#AllCustom1.C2#AllCustom2.C3#AllCustom3.C4#[None]"
tried attaching the attachments ( but service is unavailable)
Waiting for all of your valuable suggestions..

1) why was I not getting the formula right when I use & Tops
I'm assuming that BE Fixed Cost has N for IsICP, in that case you can not write to invalid intersections as it would attempt to use the same ICP information
2) Is it MANDATORY to have a Plugaccount attribute when we have IsICP turned to "R" ?
No
3) What will happen if we do not have a Plugaccount for the IsICP account ?
It will not run eliminations
4) Do we need to have the IsICP turned on to the immediate parent of the account having IsICP and the Top parents of the account too??
If you want it to rollup, yes you would need that. We have all Parent accounts as isICP set to Y and top member to ICP Entities so that they roll up
5) which will have priority the rule or the Grid where we have the calculated member like the BE Fixed Cost - because in the grid I had icptop, allcustom1,2 3 and when had & Tops to the account - I got some weird numbers...
I'm not following the question here, grids are just really a display mechanism, rules will handle all of the calculations.

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