Dragging a clip made with In/Out points from viewer

I'm using Tom Wolsky's book FCE 3.5 to learn FCE 4.
I'm hoping it will at least get me through some of the minutiae.
I'm on page 44 and 45 "Slicing your clips" and under "Slice 1" #9 it says I should drag the marked clip from the viewer and drop it in my newly created bin marked "Clips".
When I drag whats in the viewer with my new In/Out points into my browser, I'm dragging the entire "Temple" clip into my browser that has the marked In/Out points on it, not just the clip made with the In/Out points.......my understanding is that I'm supposed to be dragging the clip I just made, not the entire Temple scene with the In/Out points simply marked......
Naturally, any help or scathing insight would be great!

I guess I wasn't supposed to be dragging the clip itself, but the master clip >with In/Out points on it..........
but the master clip >with *(_new in/out points_ and been made to a Modify>Make Master Clip)* In/Out points on it.
The new ones are now independant.
Al

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Feature Request/Bug Report Form
******BUG******
Concise problem statement:Inconveniences when selecting and dragging multiple clips
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With all due respect Kevin, nobody at Adobe has the right to change a program SO drastically. I am also a mouse person, and am MUCH faster using the mouse, vs the keyboard.
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Upgrading a program, and changing it to this degree, are two different things in my book. I have not yet upgraded, but it is very scary - the things I'm seeing. For one, way way too many bugs. The amount of bugs on so many boards being reported are just beyond comprehension.
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I mostly read posts, but I thought I would voice my opinion, if none of us speak up, nothing will get changed. I'm really hoping that Adobe implements some change in the next revision .5 or whatever it will be called. Reading posts like this one are really depressing. Did you watch Steven's video on a simple task as moving multiple clips around on a timeline ? Doing this with a mouse just isn't going to work for many, removing simple tasks by way of using a mouse would stop me from upgrading.
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Kevin Monahan wrote:
I went to NLE school in Hollywood in the 90's. Their mantra was, "never touch the mouse." I rather like the fact that I need to touch the mouse much less in CS6, but this is my personal opinion and the way I was trained.

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