Dual boot (Win XP - ARCH 0.8) / disk 80 GByte

Hi,
I am trying to setup DUAL Boot Windows-XP Archlinux on a Compaq nc6320
I want to load linux from the Window NT loader I have only a " - " in the left uppercorner when I select --linux--
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional"
c:\boot.lnx="-- Linux--"
Although the boot.lnx is not a text file I could read .... è*·ëþGRUB ·Geom·Hard Disk·Read· Error·»·´Í¬<·uôÃ···········
I have a disk of 80 byte
Sda1 NTFS Windows XP 40Gb
Sda3 7 Mb Grub Bootmanager installed here (this was a unused space here)
Sda2
Sda5 NTFS, about 26 Gbyte
Sda6 /boot 130 Mb
Sda7 swap 1024 Mb
Sda8 / 9,7 Gb > Arclinux 0.8
I made the file boot.lnx this way
dd if=/dev/sda3 of=boor.lnx bs=512 count=1
Possible I have problems with the Cylindrer 1024 border ?
Due to company base policy I would like to avoid changing MBR and first ntfs partiton.
Any idea what oher solutions there are ? Thanks.
I id not found LBA support in bios setup.
http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/gr … HOWTO.html
Last edited by go4it (2007-01-29 15:29:33)

Whenever I've put linux on the same disk as windows I've always used lilo to handle the booting by installing the linux bootloader to the "/root" of the linux partition, before that I would flag the partition as bootable with cfdisk while I was doing my partitioning and untoggle the boot flag for windows, this was also reversible so it never harmed my windows bootloader.
I would make an entry like this if I was using lilo:
# Partition 3: Windows XP Home
other = /dev/hda1
label = WinXP
and then run lilo for the change to stick.
In grub I would imagine you would have to add something like this:
title WindowsXP
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
chainloader +1
makeactive
I now just keep linux on its own seperate drive, to give you an idea how that works this is what my grub looked like last week, I repartitioned and only have arch on there now, so far..... , keep in mind my windows is actually on my second drive, hence the need for the "map" entries, reading up a bit on grub would be to your advantage, its hdd naming scheme is a bit confusing at first, but once ya get the hang of it you realise how powerful and usefull it can be, I love the password and fallback features.
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE: You do not have a /boot partition. This means that
# all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, eg.
# root (hd0,1)
# kernel /boot/kernel-genkernelreal_root=/dev/sda2
# initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel
#boot=/dev/sda2
default=0
timeout=120
splashimage=(hd0,1)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
password --md5 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
title Sabayon Linux x86 3.25
root (hd0,1)
kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r4 root=/dev/ram0 ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda2 quiet init=/linuxrc splash=silent,theme:sabayon CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 pci=nomsi vga=0x31b
initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r4
title Windows XP Professional
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
map (hd0) (hd1)
map (hd1) (hd0)
chainloader +1
makeactive
title VectorLinux 5.8 Std Gold
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 ro vga=795
title Arch Linux Voodoo
root (hd0,4)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sda5 ro vga=795
initrd /boot/kernel26.img
Last edited by RabidWolf (2007-01-31 12:32:39)

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ratchet wrote:II am able to install and run arch by installing grub to the mbr. when I do this, though, I cannot boot windows. (the windows section of grub menu.lst is uncommented and points toward hda0,0. I have tried hda 0,1 as well).
Is this a typo in your post or how it was in menu.lst? Surely it should be hd0,0 and not hda0,0? The entry I have in my menu.lst is as follows:
# (2) Windows
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What was yours?
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Mclarenf1905 wrote:
Hey, I am attempting to set up my laptop to dual boot Windows Vista and Arch Linux.
The problem I'm having is after installing Arch my laptop still boots windows w/o going to the grub
I started with having Windows Vista installed on the laptop, and then shrank down the partition with vista by 30 gigs for Arch.
I was following the Arch setup guide in the wiki along with the Dual Boot Windows and Arch guide in the wiki [wiki]Windows_and_Arch_Dual_Boot[/wiki].
My partitioning Scheme is:
/dev/sda1 1.46 gb (some sort of toshiba recovery partition I believe)
/dev/sda2 117.8 gb (Vista Partition)
/dev/sda3 1 gb (Swap partition)
/dev/sda4 29 gb /root partition
According to the Dual Boot wiki article, I should install the grub to /boot, which in my case is in /root which I did.
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Thanks in advanced
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I use the last partition as a shared partition between Arch and Windows, for storing music and videos... I use it also for installing games, so that I can play them either from windows or from Arch by using wine.
I'm not saying this is the best way to do it, but this has been working for me, also I don't use a separate /boot partition, I used to have it when I had multiple Linux distros, but with Arch alone I don't find it necessary.

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I have 2 SATA hard drives on my system...
320gb & 500gb
I have 6 gigs ram, triple core 2.1ghz w/256mb HD 2400 ATI pciE
Im reading the wiki page https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wi … _Dual_Boot
and I have some questions and am seeking some advice..
I was thinking about putting (in the bios) the 320 as primary w/ windows 7
and using the 500 for linux.. 300 ( /boot=100mb, /=20gigs /swap=2gigs /home= approx 275gigs) and 200gb FAT32 to share music,pics,documents, et al with both OS's
maybe using a gparted cd to make the 320 ntfs, /boot ext2, /root & /home ext4 /swap as swap and 200gigs as fat32
then installing windows on the 320, then using the arch ftp install to install arch on sdb (second sata drive) using the partitions I've explained about.
now for Grub.. where I get lost is.. i read on one of the many forum posts i read, if you install 7 first, then arch, everythign will work fine and when you reboot you'll have a choice.. now this answer/comment goes against the wiki that says you have to set up grub to do the dual boot.. or am i wrong, will it just "work" (it does with other distros, but I know arch doesnt hold hands like the others, and I really dont want to leave arch jsut to dualboot for the few windows needs i have , photoshop, a good printer, office 2010, and afew other windows programs i still enjoy using for work and play)
does anyone have any "easier" to follow directions then the wiki to dualboot win 7 and arch? I'm reading and re-reading and re-reading the wiki again, and it seems like greek to me..
anyone have any other suggestions.. i have win7 in a virtualbox machine, but the usb hub isnt working.. (started happening since 4.x.x.x came out) thought 4.0.0.2 would "fix" this issue, so i made a new vm of win7 and same usb hub isssues in device manager.. so it MUST be a virtual box issue.. and from what I've read, its not being "fixed" anytime soon.. and I cant use my printer on arch no matter what I've done..
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Heres how I do it:
1. Split my drive into one primary partition and an extended partition with logical partitions for Linux.
2. Install Windows 7 (first) to the primary partition and Arch Linux inside the extended partition.
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3)Also, in case of full disk encryption, is partition table encrypted too?
and please, I don't want questions as "Why do you need it this way?". I just want to have full disk encryption, so if the MBR is the only thing unencrypted I could keep it on separate media and boot from it(Disc Cryptor allows such feature), but I also need the system to be split into windows and linux parts, accessible by different passwords. And I dont think the idea of using truecrypt hidden partition and hidden os is good in here.
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Last edited by Kape (2013-01-24 13:58:41)

hiciu wrote:
/dev/sda
+--------------------------------------+
|(mbr and partition table) |
| +----------------------------------+ |
| |(truecrypt) windows boot partition| |
| |----------------------------------| |
| |(truecrypt) windows 7 | |
| |----------------------------------| |
| |linux boot partition | |
| |----------------------------------| |
| |(lvm on luks) | |
| | +------------------------------+ | |
| | |rootfs | | |
| | |------------------------------| | |
| | |home | | |
| | |------------------------------| | |
| | |swap | | |
| | +------------------------------+ | |
| +----------------------------------+ |
+--------------------------------------+
3)Also, in case of full disk encryption, is partition table encrypted too?
Take a look at diagram #1 . Mbr and partition table will be not encrypted. You don't want that: there are no sensitive data in there; both windows and linux need to access partition table to know where are partitions on disk; mbr must contain some not encrypted code that will be loaded by bios, since that code can't be encrypted it can be modified (potentially in such a way to hide the modifications from the system), as long as you boot from this device there is no way around it without "secure boot" and mbr singing.
I believe windows boot partition and windows partition can be encrypted with truecrypt (you need to check that, I don't know truecrypt). There still will be some minimal not encrypted bootloader in order to ask you for for key / passphrase, so it is not 100% secure (someone could replace it; search for "evil maid" attack by Joanna Rutkowska).
Linux bootloader (I forgot about it on diagram) and linux boot partition can't be encrypted (again, unless you do: truecrypt -> grub2 / syslinux -> linux, and there still will be not encrypted minimal bootloader).
You see, the problem is always the same: you can't boot from encrypted device. You need something that will decrypt it first.
I just want to have full disk encryption, so if the MBR is the only thing unencrypted I could keep it on separate media and boot from it(Disc Cryptor allows such feature), but I also need the system to be split into windows and linux parts, accessible by different passwords.
In order to secure boot partitions / bootloaders one could separate encryption and bootloaders, keep data on encrypted disk and keep bootloaders code at secure location (i.e. on pen drive attached to key chain). Take a look at diagram #2:
/dev/sda /dev/usb-stick
+--------------------------------------+ +--------------------------+
|(mbr and partitions table) | |(mbr and partitions table)|
| +----------------------------------+ | | +----------------------+ |
| |other data / partitions | | | |linux boot partition | |
| +----------------------------------+ | | | +------------------+ | |
| |(lvm on luks) | | | | |grub / syslinux | | |
| | +------------------------------+ | | | | |kernel | | |
| | |rootfs | | | | | |initramfs | | |
| | |------------------------------| | | | | +------------------+ | |
| | |home | | | | +----------------------+ |
| | |------------------------------| | | +--------------------------+
| | |swap | | |
| | +------------------------------+ | |
| +----------------------------------+ |
+--------------------------------------+
In this setup you boot your system from usb stick. Bios will load and execute mbr and bootloader from usb stick (and you know its good since you have it physically secured), it should decrypt luks and boot system. You still can run windows with truecrypt using /dev/sda as boot device. I know I didn't exactly answered your questions.
1)so this way i can leave mbr(including partition table) empty on hdd, while having them on usb stick? good. I can put copy of mbr with truecrypt loader on that usb stick too along with /boot partition just like in the link i gave above? So there would be NOTHING left unencrypted on my hdd? i like it.
2)My main goal is that hdd would look like blank if someone would want to check its contents. I've heard using Luks leaves some traces in the volume header?(it's not possible to use truecrypt for full linux system encryption too, right?)
3)How do i properly put /boot on usb stick? Also will there be any troubles updating arch with /boot being on separate media?
thanks!

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*: FAT32 260.00MB capacity 117.95MB used system
*: Other 128.00MB capacity 0.00MB used
C:Windows NTFS 908.78GB capacity 42.31GB used Boot
D:Recovery NFTS 21.71GB capacity 19.57GB used
I would like to create a dual boot with Windows 7 so that I can copy my Windows 7 (32 bit) drive from my old computer to another partition. I have tried shrinking the size of C partition and then installing Windows 7 32 bit on the unused partition. However, I get an error saying that the drive is GPT and I've read that the only way around this is to convert the whole drive to MBR which can be done on the fly with a utility like AOMEI Partition Assistant.
However, MBR will only recognise up to 4 partitions and I would require 6 with the shrunk C partition so can I get rid of the 3 small partitions or will this affect the drive? I have already made a copy of the restore software onto DVD's.
Failing that perhaps I can boot from my old Windows 7 drive as an external USB drive but any attempt to boot from it just crashes and I've tried using Paragon Adaptive resore but the USB drive isn't recognised.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
TIA.
Geoff.

Paul
Given what the cable does and what device manager looks like it is a driver issue. Their driver. Your best bet is to contact the developer BUT I do wonder if you have tried re-installing the driver in compatibility mode for win 7
To install in compatibility mode do the following:
Right click the installer>properties>compatibility>choose OS
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Make-older-programs-run-in-this-version-of-Windows?SignedIn=1
(works in vista, win 7, win 8, and win 10)
Wanikiya and Dyami--Team Zigzag

Dual Boot Win 8.1 & Ubuntu 14.04

Hi,
I would like to create a dual boot. I have a rather new ThinkPad Yoga. Here are my questions:
1. I was told I should make a recovery image or something when I bought it. How do I do that and what is it? is it just a plane Image or is it "Create your own Windows DVD"? In Volume Manager I have 4 Partitions, 1GB and 18GB are both called recoverypartitions, then an EFI and the normal C. (Didnt touch that)
2.How can I get my Win Key and a proper Win8.1 Image?
3. How can I create a new partition for installing Ubuntu 14.04 Server 64 bit? How to do it properly.
4. Drivers for Ubuntu? Any tips?
Thanks

Hi,
We may need to move this to the Linux board for the last 2 questions, but let me try to address the Windows side.
1. Methodology to create Recovery Media and reload a Lenovo system with Microsoft Windows 8 preload
2. The key is embedded in the BIOS. As I understand it, an install of the same version of WIndows should detect it automatically. Try this for the Win image: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/create-reset-refresh-media
Z.
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Error with dual boot Win 8/OL6 R3

Hello,
I am hoping to discuss this with someone who has experience with this configuration. My goal is to get Oracle Linux dual booting on my windows 8 machine.
I have installed OL but I am having trouble getting it to dual boot win8/OL using the windows boot menu. Whereas windows 8 boots as expected, the Oracle Linux option gives me the error:
"+Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause...contact you system administrator or computer manufacturer for assistance+
+File:+ \NST\nst_linux.mbr
+Status: 0xc000007b+
+Info: The selected application or operating system couldn't be loaded because a required file is missing or contains errors.+"
Here are some details of the scenario:
- Documentation followed: Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-6-Installation_Guide-en-US.pdf
- Hardware: Dell Precision M4700 64 bit UEFI
- OEM installed/Default OS: Windows 8 Pro 64 bit
- Installation source: OracleLinux-R6-U3-Server-x86_64-dvd.iso (written to DVD)
These are the broad steps I followed:
In windows 8
I:
- downloaded the Linux ISO software. The checksum on the download matched
- wrote the ISO to a bootable installation disk
- created a new 344gb partition for Linux using the DOS DISKPART command - partition 7
Linux Install
- I booted using the Linux installation DVD and started the installation
- When Installing Linux partition 7 became a 500mb system partition and partition 8 became the 343 gb Linux partition
- I manually created the boot partition as ext3 (because the pdf I was following said "+If your 64-bit x86 system uses UEFI instead of BIOS, you will need to manually create a /boot partition. This partition must have an ext3 file system. If you choose to partition automatically, your system will not boot.+"
- I installed the boot loader on sda7. I selected “First sector of boot partition - /dev/sda7”. I assume this installs separate GRUB boot loader on the Linux partition (7) – which will then be 'chain loaded' from the windows boot menu. Put another way, it will boot with the windows boot manager, which will give me an option to chain load the Grub boot loader, which will then run Linux...
- I chose the desktop installation
- The installation reported that it completed successfully
I successfully booted back into windows:
- I used easybcd to edit the microsoft bcd and successfully created a boot menu for Oracle Linux. I used the legacy grub because the Linux documentation says "+Note that the version of GRUB in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 is an old and stable version now known as "GRUB Legacy" since upstream development moved to GRUB 2.3 Red Hat remains committed to maintaining the version of GRUB that we ship with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6, just as we do with all packages that we ship.+".
- After installing Linux and updating the BCD, the BCD now looks like this:
Windows Boot Manager
identifier {bootmgr}
path \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
integrityservices Enable
default {current}
resumeobject {2b56acdd-8bbe-11e2-9ba6-b8ca3ad88679}
displayorder {current}
{524cc0d3-8bce-11e2-935f-b8ca3ad88679}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30
Windows Boot Loader
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
description Windows 8
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {524cc0d1-8bce-11e2-935f-b8ca3ad88679}
integrityservices Enable
recoveryenabled Yes
isolatedcontext Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {2b56acdd-8bbe-11e2-9ba6-b8ca3ad88679}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
Real-mode Boot Sector
identifier {524cc0d3-8bce-11e2-935f-b8ca3ad88679}
device partition=C:
path \NST\nst_linux.mbr
description OracleLinux
I'm not sure the BCD entry is correct. I assume that this entry should be pointing to the nst_linux.mbr on the Linux boot partition. However I have verified that this file exists in windows 8:
C:\NST\nst_linux.mbr
I haven't been able to exactly confirm how the boot process should work i.e. whether this file should actually be in the Linux boot partition (as opposed to the windows c drive) and whether the BCD should also point to the Linux boot partition when referring to this partition.
As I mentioned above, I now have the windows boot menu with Windows 8 (which boots successfully) and Oracle Linux (which gives me the error see below for complete wording**). Is the Real-mode Boot sector wrong? Should it point to the Linux boot partition? Is it a problem with my UEFI disk? I don't think it should be because this version of Oracle Linux supports UEFI and my hardware is UEFI.
Has anyone carried out a similar win8/OL dual boot?
2001
** Complete wording of the Linux boot option in the windows boot manager:
Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause. To fix the problem:
1. Insert your Windows installation disk and restart the computer.
2. Choose your language settings, and then click "next".
3. Click "Repair your computer".
If you do not have this disk, contact you system administrator or computer manufacturer for assistance
File: \NST\nst_linux.mbr
Status: 0xc000007b
Info: The selected application or operating system couldn’t be loaded because a required file is missing or contains errors.
Edited by: 2001 on Apr 1, 2013 4:27 PM
Edited by: 2001 on Apr 17, 2013 5:17 PM

Hi,
Here are my responses:
*[asmirnov]* Could you please confirm, I just want to see if I got it right the first time -
*[2001]* I'm happy to share my progress
Q1)
*[asmirnov]* You did create a partition (where you would install Linux) from Win8, correct?
*[2001]* Yes. I used diskmgmt.msc to create a separate partition. I didn't format the partition because the Linux install doesn't want that, it creates and formats the partitions in the unallocated partition
Q2)
*[asmirnov]* You use GRUB (not GRUB2)?
*[2001]* I'm not sure where you were asking about, so I hope my answer here covers all possibilities you may have meant.
I was using the windows 8 boot. I wanted to chain load to the boot loader in the Linux Partition. It is interesting what the Linux install did with my partition, it created 2 partitions in the unformatted partition. 1 was a bootable partition and the other was the Linux partition. The details were:
2 sda’s (a boot / ext4 and a VolGroup (vg_linuxlocalhost)/ physical volume (LVM) ). In the VolGroup it created 3 lv’s, lv_root, lv_home and lv_swap. I understand that this is all normal.
I followed the documentation note which said "To configure the Red Hat Enterprise Linux boot loader to chain load from a different boot loader, you must specify the boot drive manually. If you chose any of the automatic partitioning options, you must now select the Review and modify partitioning layout option before you click Next or you cannot specify the correct boot drive"
So there was also the note in the documentation that said "Note that the version of GRUB in Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 is an old and stable version now known as "GRUB Legacy" since upstream development moved to GRUB 2.3 Red Hat remains committed to maintaining the version of GRUB that we ship with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6, just as we do with all packages that we ship." I didn't install any bootloaders manually (either the windows 8 OOTB default that came with my machine or the Linux one), I just took the defaults. I'm wasn't sure how to access the Linux partitions once it is installed, so I can't confirm it was the legacy GRUB in the Linux boot partition, but I believe this note is saying that it OL6 does use the legacy grub. I believe GRUB Legacy is version .97.
Q3)
*[asmirnov]* Which version of Linux exactly did you use, was that Oracle Linux or you used one from RedHat directly? What is the kernal version?
*[2001]* I used "OracleLinux-R6-U3-Server-x86_64-dvd.iso.sha1sum" from the mirror site http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/oraclelinux/OL6/U3/x86_64/. According to the release notes at: https://oss.oracle.com/ol6/docs/RELEASE-NOTES-U3-en.html the kernel is
- Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel Release 2 [kernel-uek-2.6.39-200.24.1.el6uek]. Installed and booted by default
- Red Hat compatible Kernel [kernel-2.6.32-279.el6]. Installed by default
Note: By default, both the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel and the Red Hat Compatible Kernel for the specific architecture (i386 or x86_64) are installed, and the system boots the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel by default. If needed, /etc/grub.conf and /etc/sysconfig/kernel can be modified to make the system boot with the Red Hat Compatible Kernel by default.
Regarding your follow-up point that "Microsoft blocks 3rd party chainloaders from the BCD menu for UEFI machines. We are researching workarounds, none have presented themselves as of yet.", I'm not sure it actually blocks it, but it certainly isn't a straight forward process.
I have actually abandoned my attempt to get the dual boot working. It is a real shame because I wanted to do it for my own satisfaction.
I am now using Oracle Virtual Box as suggested by others, include Dude earlier in this thread. This has given me confidence that I was doing all the right things because the install worked first time without any problems. The virtualization is much simpler and I have had no problems so far.
Fusion
As for your point about the fusion middleware and OL5. I am looking at Oracle SOA with is part of the Fusion brand. I think that the latest SOA components will work on OL6 - but I have yet to try it. Following the certification matrix can be a little difficult. So as I indicated above, my current thoughts are to use the Oracle Virtual Box with Linux r6 u3 and to install the SOA components on that when I get chance. The alternative is using the pre-built virtual machine it has Linux and SOA (it might cover your stack too, or there may be another one that suits you better on the site) http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/soasuite/learnmore/vmsoa-172279.html. Note that this is still on OL5.
I hope this helps.

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I have a G780 with win7 pre-installed. When I tried to get GNU/Linux Mint Dual-booting, the wifi-driver didn't work and most importantly, I wasn't able to make a new partition because there were already four: the boot-partition, the windows-partition, one labeled "Lenovo" and one "Lenovo2" (or something like this). The hard-disk is formatted in a way so that only four partitions are allowed.
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Hi Zoltan.
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I believe that Mint comes with gparted, but you can boot gparted from a live cd or usb. With it you can shrink the Windoze partition to create root, swap and home partitions.
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