Dummy Profit Center Issue

Dear Sap gurus,
while i am posting odocument i am giving cost center and profit center is (1011 is pc) but system takes default profit center like dummy profit center.
Regards
Naidu

Hi,
a) When you are entering the cost centre in a line item the profit centre assigned to cost centre would be defaulted.
Please check the profit centre in the Cost centre master data.
b) Check 3KEI for any derivation rule maintained.
c) check substitution rule if any being used through GGB4
Regards
K.R

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We have implemented ECC6.0 version,
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I am posting the document in FB60 transaction: after simulating the document system is throwing the error "Profit center 9937/FIREPRODMY does not exist for 14.08.2009"
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Anand

Hi,
Check the validity period of the Profit Center 9937/FIREPRODMY. The valid from period should have the date same or earlier than 14.08.2009
If not then change the profit center master data to be valid from an earlier date (Tcode KE52). Steps-
KE52 - Profit Center FIREPRODMY
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I was reported by the business users that they see transactions with the Dummy Profit Centers when they run report for Balance Sheet and P&L Statements. They dont want to see any Dummy Profit Center Report Transactions in their financial statementsin both BSand P&LStatements.
For example a number of Documents posted against same G/L account and few of them have dummy profit centers, users doesn't want to see them.
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Refer to the IMG Activity Documentation for the following IMG Node.
Financial Accounting (New) -> General Ledger Accounting (New) -> Master Data -> Profit Center -> Create Dummy Profit Center
Here is the documentation:
Create Dummy Profit Center
This function lets you create the dummy profit center for the current controlling area.
The dummy profit center is updated in data transfers whenever the object to which the data was originally posted (cost center, order, and so on) is not assigned to a profit center. This ensures that the data in Profit Center Accounting is complete. You can later send the data on the dummy profit center to the other profit centers using assessment or distribution.
You create the master record for the dummy profit center using this special transaction. To change or display it, use the normal profit center maintenance functions.
The name of the dummy profit center is displayed in the controlling area settings for Profit Center Accounting.
Prerequisites
The standard hierarchy must exist for the current controlling area.
Actions
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Transaction code: 9KE0 - Posting with Dummy profit center

Hi All,
We have an issue with transation 9KE0, While posting any adjustment entries with single line item, system automaticaly creating second line item few times. We were unable to find the reason why it is creating second line for few documents?
Our requirement is that those entries should have only one line item in transaction 9KE0. Most of the cases we were able to post the document with single line item.
We are using almost 100 co.codes for our client.
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But some times for the same co.code with same parameters if we post one line item, second line item automatically creating with dummy profit center while posting.
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Edited by: prasad naga on Feb 22, 2011 2:53 PM

Hi,
We have further analyzed this issue and found that, whenever the amount in field(KSL -Amount in profit center local currency) is ZERO, System it is creating second line item with dummy profit center.
ex:1
proft cenert        account         amount in co.code cur    amount in profit center local currency
9999                    100000             - 0.13                                 00
dummy                 100010               0.13                                 00
ex:2
proft cenert        account         amount in co.code cur    amount in profit center local currency
9999                    100000             - 3.13                                 1
we have verified the values in GLPCA table also... whenever the tech field KSL-Amount in profit center local currency is zero system creating two line items.
Please suggest us is there a solution to stop the second line item even the amount in profit center local currency field (Tech name -KSL) is Zero
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Hi Gurus!
May I know is that compulsory to create Dummy Profit Center. Why we create Dummy Profit Center.
Is that compulsory to create Dummy Profit Center.
Regards
Aadhi

Hi Aadhi,
Welcome to SDN,
Check the link below. There other posts also regarding the issue..... kindly search.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_45b/helpdata/en/eb/13713643c411d1896f0000e8322d00/content.htm
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Dummy profit center error

Hello All,
I have this issue. there are 2 dummy default profit centers accumulating amounts over several different accounts (profit center 1 and 2). when i looked into the system only one profit center 1 is marked as Dummy profit center. when i run T.code 2kee, it shows the values in accounts at the 2 dummy profit centers. i want the correct profit center and the costs should be assigned to profit center 3.
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You need to get to the root cause. Which tcode is being processed that is going to dummy? For example if it is a material document then the material is not set up with a profit center. Also, make sure that in the GL field status that profit center is required for the GL entries ( except some auto post accounts) . You could do validations to require valid profit centers as well. You can also do a substituion and force in what you want. You can only have one DUMMY profit center in PCA. So I am not sure what you mean by two pcrt 1 and pctr 2. To correct this go to 9KE0 - Enter and make an entry to dr/cr dummy and dr/cr pctr 3.
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Hi,
Good morning and greetings,
Maintain a substitution rule in the system through GGB1 / OBBH to ensure that the right profit centre is determined during the transaction.
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I have a scenerrio on dummy profit center
1. On Augst 2006 -- A customer invoice has been posted using FB70 and some how the customer account line item when to dummy profit center and other line items were posted to a the correct profit center.
2. On August 2006 -- Due to this business reversed original customer invoice using FB08 which again has customer account line item when to dummy profit center and other line items were posted to the correct profit center.
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As I have already explained, both the default profit center and configuring the default profit center for non assigned processes does not work for us.
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we have maintained one exchange rate differece GL a/c at the time of billing accounting document.for this Gl account we have maintained one default cost center in OKB9 in which we have assigned profit center also.
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I am using the PCA with new GL , here I have created the dummy profit center also
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What could be the reason for updating the dummy profit center suppose if I am not give any profit center
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You should not have activated Classical PCA if you are using New GL.. New GL PCA is a much better functionality
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