Dummy profit center determined when performing MIGO (after MB21)

Dear experts,
I have the following problem in SAP release 4.7:
Step 1) Perform MB21 (ok, no problem)
Step 2) Perform goods issue (MIGO): Sometimes it determines profit center from the material correctly while sometimes it determines dummy profit center!
The correct one is the profit center of the material master but no dummy. The account has a check in Profit. Segment in OKB9 setting.I have checked that dummy profit center is determined because the characteristic "plant" is not copied to COPA for derivation. Is it a system bug? Can anyone help?
Thanks!

Hi,
Good morning and greetings,
Maintain a substitution rule in the system through GGB1 / OBBH to ensure that the right profit centre is determined during the transaction.
By maintaining the substitution the system will automatically determine.
Please reward points if found useful
Thanking you
With kindest regards
Ramesh Padmanabhan

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