Editing/Archiving Codec

Hello,
I have been searching through various forums and can't really find a possible suggestion/answer for what I am seeking. Additionally I apologize in advance if this is posted in the wrong forum, not sure if I should post here or in the Prelude forum.
I have been getting the hang of Prelude and I am really liking the workflow and want to include Prelude in my daily workflow.
Right now I have a Sony handy cam which shoots AVCHD. I have a folder that has about 15 minutes or so of AVCHD footage straight from the camera and is just under 11GB in size. I want to use the Prelude workflow to ingest the footage and transcode it to one file with a unique name...rather than 20files of 00000.MTS, 00002.MTS, etc.
I am really struggling to find a decent codec. Just to compare file sizes with different codecs, I have imported the entire folder and did several transcode tests. All of them of are anywhere from 30GB on up in file size.
I have tried DNxHD, and various settings of it, AVC Intra and various settings of that as well but the file sizes they have produced are anywhere from 3 times to 6 times larger than the original AVCHD footage.
Can anyone recommend a codec that can be high quality for editing yet is not so ridiculous in file size? I really want to use PL to transocde my video to usable file names, etc but it's not worth it if I have to go from approx 11GB of storage space to 30-60GB of storage space for the same footage.
Footage is AVCHD 1080P / 59.94
I hope I have explained this correctly.
All the apps are CC with latest updates.
Thank you,
Shane

Anything smaller will reduce the quality. Keeping the quality will only inflate the size.
Your best option is to just use the original media.

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Please -- no more questions about why I'm asking this question.
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Brian,
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Dave LaRonde wrote:
Lukabrazzi wrote:
As an aside, why so many codecs anyway? Couldn't we just have 3 - 5 file formats and codecs to cover everything? I mean, the only delivery mechanisms in general use at this point are DVD, BluRay, web, and smart phones, right?
If that were true, no one would be using AE to do work on Hollywood movies, independent films, for delivery to broadcasters using any number of different nonlinear editing systems, for playback on laptop computers at trade shows, for multiscreen presentations at corporate meetings, for animated billboards....
....you get the idea.
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Hi,
I stem from the pro audio industry. Over there, the manufacturers seem to be a little more organized.
We've got 3 'Codecs' that we use. AIFF - WAVE - MP3
In the video industry there are a million codecs around and they are ALL poorly documented and most are crappy as H***.
OK... Video is more Processor intensive than audio... Get over it. Build your hardware so it matches that of a generally accepted codec.
Many Camera producers like ARRI are finally getting the idea. They are building cameras recording directly to ProRes 4444.
Imagine the audio industry being as ignorant as the video industry. We'd have every little manufacturer running around building his own audio codec,
persisting that HIS codec is BEEEETTER than all the rest. I think the video industry heard Tina Turner's 'Simply The Best' once too MANY.
Here in the VID ind. you have a bunch of small time companies releasing PAID codecs luring the unknown into thinking that THIS will give him better quality and performance. BS...
I could NOT give a flying F*** about the brand or NAME of the codec I use... It is a CODEC for petes sake. And as of NOW... All those codex are doing are GETTING IN THE WAY OF CREATIVITY. Then you have THAT great codec for your NLE of choice.. And you are a happy camper... UUUUntil you enter After Effects and find out that its render engine has HUGE trouble with ProRes 4444... Now what do I do... Should I dump my NLE so that I can work in AE or should I look for an alt. to AE... OK... I am going to dump my NLE and find another that jails nicely with AE... Oh... There ARE none... What do I do now... OK ... Let's look for another codec that works with both.. GREAT... I found one.. Costs $799 but what the heck they promise that it works. Then you download the trial and find out that it doesn't...
There is CHAOS at best in the Film/Video industry. But that is changing slowly...
I am a perfectionist and I can find a HUGE scratch in a freshly un-wrapped iPad display, where there is none. The only lossy codec out there today with archive-grade-quality after 8 generations of encoding is.... Drum Whirl...... ProRes. Great in performance and looks like the ORIGINAL source without that Mosquito SWARM of noise that all the others are producing (AVIDs DNxHD is also fantastic)..... But thats it...
So there you go. TWO intermiate/archival codecs and they ALREADY exist. Throw in H264 and you have your AIF, WAV & MP3 of the Audio Industry.
All the industry has got to do is accept that and move on... Because today I feel like the codec war is getting in MY way of being creative. And in the way of great creative and intuitive software like PPRO and AE.
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AVI is a wrapper, what is inside YOUR wrapper - Exactly what is INSIDE the video you are editing?
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