Editing in time line alters video output quality.

This is weird. If I import a basic AVI (raw 1280x768 ) in to a project with the same settings and drop that into the time line, then just export (no editing) some frames or whole sequence (to any file type/codec at the same size and settings) the resulting file is clear as a bell, looks great. But, if I do ~any~ cutting at all the resulting file looks like crap (again with the same export settings as before). I also noticed that in the program window the same thing happens, if the file hasnt been chopped up the view is crystal clear, along with any renders, as soon as I cut it (lets say I remove the first 5 seconds of the clip in the timeline with the "cut" tool) the Program window gets messed up (image gets blurry) and all the resulting renders are also poor. What Am I doing wrong???? Please help.

Yes, Xvid and DivX, are both very heavily compressed CODEC's, and are most often seen in the AVI wrapper.
With either, conversion is the best route, if you have to edit the "delivery-only" material. Please note: file conversion will not regain all the data, lost in compression - only get the file into an editable form.
Good luck,
Hunt

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I am not seeing this as an option with the Premiere Elements. Can anyone tell me where, if possible, I can alter the output quality before the program begins the download? I certainly can find the input quality (such as .dv 4:3 ratio). I'd prefer not to always have to download the full quality video, THEN have to covert it as a separate step.
Thank you!

The PRE workflow is (1) Create your project (2) import your assets (3) sequence and edit your assets (4) create your menus (5) share your project.
The quality of intended output has no effect on your project settings which should match your source footage. Done this way optimises PRE's performance - as it can internally process far more effectively when matched to a 'native' format.
For standard definition the ideal format for PRE is DV-AVI Type 2. This is almost lossless and operates at around 13GB per hour.
Compression to an output format (e.g. DVD, or an iPod, or viewing online) is managed through the share process.
You could:
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Share it to a compressed format - e.g. MP4
Delete the original capture source (in Step 1)
Work in a new project using the compressed output (in step 2).
But if you do this your final output quality will be lessened through working with a compressed original that you will then compress again. I can't see what you feel you will gain by this - disk space is so cheap now why wouldn't you want to give yourself the best quality source to work with.
Note that once you are finished with a project you can archive it off to free up your disk space.
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Anyone else who owns an atv1 found video looks worse?
I'm not talking about actual video playback but the video output on 2
AppleTV1 looked great through my plasma even though it's not full HD
1080p over hdmi on 1 scaled by the plasma consistently looked best, with crisp but smooth edges to text and GUI.
Atv2 720p over hdmi looks consistently worse - it all looks oversharpened and over contrasty, with text in particular looking very jagged as well as the spinning timer wheel looking pixellated now
Watching a slideshow there seemed to be visible artefacts as some images moved or scaled whereas atv1 just looked silky smooth
Maybe the current GUI text and icons are not as smooth, maybe less antialiasing, poorer quality gpu
Maybe my plasma downscales 720p worse than 1080p - I need to check on the full HD set in another room but first impressions are not that good
Video playback seems strangely artificial too, almost as though the frame rate has been sped up slightly
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There's definitely something different about menu graphics but actual video quality for playback is excellent though I'm not sure it's not dropping/catching up frames at times.
I've watched some HD movie trailers and they look excellent.
Video navigation is considerably improved over ATV1, with FF / RW actually working reasonably well when they didn't before over the same connection. Changing chapters gives immediate starts and buffering seems considerably quicker - at least some of this must be due to newer hardware.
I don't like the top level menu much and preferred the older system but you can pretty much stay in Computers to watch own content.
Video playlists don't work properly which is poor but it took ages to get them enabled on ATV1.
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Because a few have asked me for some specs...
The iPod is designed to play back video files that have square pixels.
DVDs use non-square pixels to fit widescreen images into 720x480 native rez of DVD standard.
When you square the pixels of a 2.35 aspect ratio movie (like "Ep III" for example) you get an image that has a native rez of 720x304(=218,880)pixels, mathmatically speaking, the iPod can play back MPEG-4 at 480x480(=230,400) pixels, cha-ching!
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I have a 60 Gig iPod and am able to carry (approx) 5000 songs AND 45 movies of varying lengths with me when I travel, and the videos are WORTH viewing, they are not just an adequate looking fascimilie of a movie. So if anyone want's to bag on my file size for being bigger than H.264 at 768kbps, too late I beat you to it, again, for me, the image comes first.
I'd love to see what other people are doing.
FJ1

The iPod is designed to play back video files that have square pixels.
DVDs use non-square pixels to fit widescreen images into 720x480 native rez of DVD standard.
I fail to see the relevance of your comment. The DVD (a non-square pixel encoded file container) is made to play on a TV/TV monitor device (which displays non-square pixels). The iPod, like all computer monitors, is a square pixel, non-interlaced device. Most good computer software multimedia applications are intelligent enough to know the difference and display the video information at the correct aspect ratio irrespective of the pixel shape in question.
When you square the pixels of a 2.35 aspect ratio movie (like "Ep III" for example) you get an image that has a native rez of 720x304(=218,880)pixels, mathmatically speaking, the iPod can play back MPEG-4 at 480x480(=230,400) pixels, cha-ching! The iPod CAN playback the full VIEWABLE resolution of a widescreen movie.
While it is true that your file resolution does meet restrictions for both total pixels allowed (218,880 of 230,400) and total number of macro-16 blocks (855 of 900), it is untrue that "The iPod CAN playback the full VIEWABLE resolution of a widescreen movie." What you are actually seeing on the iPod is a "scaled to fit" version of your original data. However, if you plan to view your files on multiple displays (iPod, TV, Computer Monitor), then I whole heartedly endorse with your approach for those devices capable of display at the full resolution.
My files look at least twice as good at less than double the file size, to me that is an accomplishment. Output image quality is most important to me, file size falls where it does Ep III = 1.41Gigs for example.
Believe this statement requires further qualification. Once again, while there is little doubt that your files should look better when displayed on larger display devices (greater resolution quality), the differences become less significant when viewed on the iPod (where greater "per pixel" compression quality becomes more significant when you resolution is scaled to fit the smaller screen).
I have a 60 Gig iPod and am able to carry (approx) 5000 songs AND 45 movies of varying lengths with me when I travel, and the videos are WORTH viewing, they are not just an adequate looking fascimilie of a movie.
"WORTH" is in the eye of the beholder. And since my eyes aren't what they used to be, I have gone the other route. I only have 101 audio files and 391 movies on my 60G iPod which is about 60% full at the current time.
So if anyone want's to bag on my file size for being bigger than H.264 at 768kbps, too late I beat you to it, again, for me, the image comes first.
In these cases one must choose efficiency in terms of time, space, or complexity. I can't fault your choice but merely point out that my priorities are different than yours. At native iPod viewing resolutions I achieve the same quality as you using the H.264 codec at 400 kbps which yields roughly 4MBs/min of source material or approximately 6 hours of program material in the space of your average files.
Hope that answers your E-mail question, Rich.

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I have an artist friend who would like to set up a video feed in a gallery. The video camera would shoot one section of the installation. In a seperate room, a projector would present that live feed on the wall.
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Time Delay Live Video Output? Possible in iMovie or FCP?

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Some general comments...
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THERE ANY WAY I CAN PUT MULTIPLE RANDUM TRANSITIONS IN TO THE TIME LINE WITH JUST ONE CLICK ? .
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Thanks Linda,
Here's some more info for you:
This is my pet checklist for questions regarding FCP X performance - you may have already addressed some of the items but it's worth checking.
Check the spec of your Mac against the system requirements:
http://www.apple.com/finalcutpro/specs/
Check the spec of your graphics card. If it's listed here, it's not suitable:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4664
Make sure you're using the latest version of the application - FCP X 10.0.3 runs very well on my 2009 MacPro 2 x 2.26 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon with 16 GB RAM and ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024 MB. I run it with Lion 10.7.3.
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Keep projects to 20 mins or less (about half that for Multicam). If you have a long project, work on short sections, make them into Compound Clips and then paste these into a final project for export.
If you ever experience dropped frames, I strongly recommend you use ProRes 422 Proxy - it edits and plays back like silk because the files are small but lightly compressed (not much packing and unpacking to do) - but remember to select 'Original or Optimised Media' (FCP X Preferences > Playback) just before you export your movie, otherwise it will be exported at low resolution.
If you have plenty of processor power, for the ultimate editing experience, create Optimised Media - most camera native files are highly compressed and need a great deal of processor power to play back - particularly if you add titles, filters or effects. ProRes 422 takes up much more hard drive space but is very lightly compressed. It edits and plays back superbly.
Hide Audio Waveforms at all times when you don't need them (both in Browser and Storyline / Timeline). They take up a lot of processor power. (Use the switch icon at the bottom-right of your timeline to select a format without waveforms if you don't need them at the moment, then switch back when you do).
Create folders in the Project and Events libraries and put any projects you are not working on currently, in those folders. This will help a lot. There's a great application for this, called Event Manager X - for the tiny cost it's an invaluable application.
http://assistedediting.intelligentassistance.com/EventManagerX/
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The biggest single improvement I saw in performance was when I upgraded the RAM from 8 GB to 16.
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Multiple use of the same video time line for different audio tracks

I have a 90 minute video timeline
I will be putting different audio tracks in multiple languages.
But as i was just editing i wondered if i could use only a segment (30 minutes ) of the timeline
along with a 30 minute audio.
Example:
So the first thing on the menu will be the whole 90 minute video
with a 90 minute music track
Second thing might be the 90 minute video with a 90 minute commentary
Third thing might be the first 30 minutes of video with a different commentary
Forth thing on the menu might be the first 30 minutes of video and 30 minutes of
a different language
Etc.
I realize i will need to make space (mb) for all the audio.....but if i could use the same video or pieces of it
that would be fantastic.
If i can do this i am presuming i should use playlists and chapter playlists to get it done?
I have never done this before and would love some feedback on an over view or tips
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Thanks for any help :-)
Soshman

Soshman wrote:
Hey Stan!
Thanks for your help...i think i am really getting this. And have learned a lot.
I had to go back to my computer programming and flowcharting skills to figure out the flow :-)
And i still have 153mb to spare when i build it.
I ended up lining up all the different videos and audios exactly for each time line except for 1 timeline.
Question: I know if the audio is shorter it will be ok.... but if the audio is longer than the video on a timeline ( and its the audio i assigned it by specify link )
Will the DVD keep playing until the audio is done or end when the video is done playing?
2nd Question: I am previewing the playlists with the "Preview from Here" feature
I specify the link and chapter within that timeline ( it is the only timeline with more than one chaper....the one with the longer audio than video from the question above )
For most of the audios i only need video chapter 1.....the preview here plays it ok but if i hit the skip to next (in the preview button on theright of the play button)...it goes to the next chapter #2... instead of the next timeline chapter 1 like it is programed to do from the playlist.
I am wondering if this is just fluke in the preview feature...or will it do that on the actual DVD as well?
Lastly because i am using different timelines. I am wondering if there are delays between playlists? for example...i have a long audio that continues between three timelines...i have spliced it pretty fine so it picks up perfectly on the next timeline...but i am wondering if the DVD when playing in realtime will have a little black space inbetween timelines.
Thanks again for your help and time :-)
Mark
Hiya Mark.
DVD-Video is video dominant, with the audio always following the visuals so if the audio ends berfore the video it will not (okay, should not) be a problem.
However, the other way around could go either way - if the actual video timeline has ended the audio may well truncate so I would personally add videoblack at the very least.
I am also not at all sure how you are going to work a single contiguous audio file across 3 separate playlists. This sounds flawed in concept to me (have I misunderstood your meaning?). In DVD-Video the format is graphically/visually dominant - the audio must always be tied to a visual asset be it a menu or a timeline - so there is no way to have one piece of audio playing across 3 timelines and having it play back glitch free whilst the timeline changes. You will not get a black space - it will simply stop. So unless I have misunderstood you in some way.........
As Stan says, preview is flaky - the only way to know for sure is to multiplex & burn.

Editing in time line alters video output quality.

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