Emergency: Pan-Scan / Letterbox / Pan-Scan & Letterbox??

90 minute docu going to replicators in 2 hours.
Master is a 16:9 HDV that's been exported to MPEG2. I want menu to be 16:9 (16:9 for full widescreen TV & 16:9 letterbox for 4:3 TV). I've already got 3 pages of menues set up with 14 buttons each. (I'm told Pan-Scan & Letterbox has only room for 12).
What do I set my menues at for getting my 16:9 menu on widescreen TV (letterboxed on 4:3 TV)???
Instant help much much appreciated.
Thank you,
Ben

Ben
What do I set my menues at for getting my 16:9 menu on widescreen TV (letterboxed on 4:3 TV)???
Set tracks & menus as Display Mode: 16:9 Letterbox to get such behaviour, NOT PanScan.
Hope that helps !
Alberto

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Pan-Scan versus Letterbox

I am a bit confused about the use of Pan-Scan vs. Letterbox for 16:9 images to be displayed on either a widescreen (16:9) or a standard (4:3) TV set. Pan-Scan is confusing: I would have assumed that using Pan-Scan as the display mode for 16:9 images (this is slideshow I am talking about) would display the center of the image and cut off the sides on a standard 4:3 TV screen, and display normally on a 16:9 widescreen TV. Not so. I set the display mode to Pan-Scan and burned a DVD: on a stadard 4:3 TV both the sides and the top and bottom of the image was cut off. I thought only the sides would be cut. But worse, on a 16:9 widescreen TV, THE SAME THING HAPPENS! The image is cut off at the sides and top and bottom - it appears to be enlarged (like zooming in) somehow, and so the image resolution is horrible: grainy, etc. When letterbox is used, the widescreen image is good, even the title safe border is not even close to the edge, and the image displays quite well on a 4:3 standard TV with the black bars top and bottom. So my question is, when could a Pan-Scan be used? Is it only for a computer monitor? Would I experience the same thing with video? And what does the choice: "Pan-Scan & Letterbox" (the third choice) offer? very confusing.
Barry

BArry:
This information is taken from DVDSP User Manual:
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Using Pan-Scan to Display 16:9 Video
The pan-scan method of displaying 16:9 video on a 4:3 monitor was developed as a compromise between letterbox, which displays all the video content but with black areas at the top and bottom, and the only other alternative: filling the entire 4:3 screen, but cropping some of the content. With pan-scan, you can choose which bits of the 16:9 content to crop, ensuring the action is not lost by displaying the center of the screen only. The pan-scan method can result in sudden jumps from one side of the screen to the other (for example, to follow a conversation’s dialogue), which may make your video look as if edits have been made.
To make pan-scan work, you must have a pan-scan vector, a frame-based value that controls which part of the content to use. Someone watching the video creates the vector, deciding which parts should be seen. This vector must be available when the video is MPEG-encoded. The MPEG encoder included with DVD Studio Pro does not support pan-scan vector information. However, if the information is already part of an MPEG-encoded video stream, created with an encoder that supports the vector information, DVD Studio Pro passes this information along.
Virtually all movies shown on TV have been through the pan-scan process; however, pan-scan vectors are rarely used for movies released on DVD. Instead, a version of the movie is made using the 4:3 pan-scanned source, and is not intended to be played as a 16:9 video on 16:9 monitors. The other side of the disc often contains the true 16:9 version, set to display as letterboxed video on 4:3 monitors.
Important: Do not use pan-scan if your video does not actually support it. If you do, only the center part of the frame will appear.
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Hope it helps!
Alberto

16:9 Pan Scan or Letterbox or Both ?????

i am helping a friend make a dvd and the video was shot in 16:9
in DVDSP do i select...
16:9 Pan-Scan
16:9 Letterbox
16:9 Pan-scan & Letterbox
we have no clue the difference between them
thanks a lot

Hi guys,
My problem is that I captured all my footage already in 16:9 letterboxed and when I burn a DVD of my project with DSP 4 and play it on my HDTV it still letterboxes the image not only creating bars on the top and bottom but on the right and left side as well, thus not showing my video in my HDTV's full screen. Can anyone help me?
If I turn on the anamorphic settings in the FCP 6.04 sequnce and or in DSP 4, the image does fill my HDTV screen but it squahes it, with bottom and top letterbox bars still showing.
I'd appreciate a response back to my email in case I can't find this thread again:
[email protected]
Thanks!

Pan-Scan and Letterbox??????

What is the difference in the Display Mode of 16x9 Pan-Scan then 16x9 Pan-Scan and Letterbox???
Thanks

What you want to use is Letterbox, not Pan & Scan or Pan & Scan/Letterbox. (Using both allows the user to choose which one)
From the manual (do a search for Pan-Scan for more info in the PDF/manual)
The pan-scan method of displaying 16:9 video on a 4:3 Monitor was developed as a compromise between letterbox, which displays all the video content but with black bars at the top and bottom, and the only other alternative: filling the enitre 4:3 screen, but cropping some of the content.
Broad stroke - Pan-Scan uses "vectors" to control what part of a video is shown.
Final Cut and DVD SP cannot add the vectors and if you set the playback it may lead to results you do not want (i.e., only center part of the video being shown.)
Practically if you shot 16:9 and really shot with 4:3 in mind, the outside areas may not be needed, but you need to look at the footage....

Time compression and Pan & Scan

Hi
I'm editing a PPV special, and the networks are requesting that the Sony Digibeta Master be "time compressed when available."
Is "time compression" a feature in FCP, or is it a feature on the Digitbeta interface only (like the 7.5 IRE NTSC setting)?
Also, one of the networks requests a "Digital Beta or D-3 full frame panned and scanned scene-to-scene color-corrected NTSC master."
"Pan and Scan" referes to cropping 16:9 video to fit within a 4:3 monitor, with no letterboxing, right? My show includes both 16:9 and 4:3 content. For past shows, it's never been a problem when I make the Digibeta of both 16:9 and 4:3. But for this network that requests Pan and Scan, would there be any problem?
I only found these requirements on the Event Master spec sheet, not on the spec sheet covering promo spots. Why's that?
THANKS!

Also, one of the networks requests a "Digital Beta or D-3 full frame panned and scanned scene-to-scene color-corrected NTSC master." "Pan and Scan" referes to cropping 16:9 video to fit within a 4:3 monitor, with no letterboxing, right? My show includes both 16:9 and 4:3 content. For past shows, it's never been a problem when I make the Digibeta of both 16:9 and 4:3. But for this network that requests Pan and Scan, would there be any problem? < </div>
Pan'n'Scan used to refer to the mechanical process of getting a widescreen image onto a TV screen. Movies were run through big film chains, scanners, to turn them into the highest quality quality video. There was a panning device that would physically move the image from side to side to maintain some kind of continuity with the original film's intent. The worst pan'n'scan films had unskilled operators running the mechanisms. Classic example is a two shot of dialog where we saw half of someone on the left side of the screen talking to an invisible person who was out of frame off the right side of the screen.
I am not familiar with a more modern adaptation of the term "pan and scan" that does not include actually moving the widescreen image around. It's very complicated and time consuming to do it well while maintaining the integrity of the production. You are conforming someone else's composition to fit another frame. Touchy.
Scene by scene color correction is a nightmare, too, but is necessary when going from film to video.
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16:9 footage appearing as Pan Scan 4:3 on TV!

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You need to set the menus and tracks to display as 16:9 Letterbox (not Pan & Scan or Pan & Scan/Letterbox) Sounds like you did that(?) and if it is showing up otherwise on a television, it could be the settings in the DVD Player or television are set improperly, though you can do your best when authroing, the DVD Player and TV settings can overide things

Settings for 16:9 & Pan Scan

hi all,
I need some clarification on some DVDSP settings. I am using DVDSP4, and I have widescreen footage saved from FCP, but the final output of DVD will be viewed like most, on a mixture of widescreen TV's and standard 4:3.
I've stumbled by until now not knowing for sure what the settings should be exactly, and i've been pretty confused by - Playback Output Settings (under Simulator menu) and the Settings under 'General' for the menus.
Have found that sometimes if i've set it up as widescreen, when it has been played on a DVD player the TV has not 'smart-scaled' it
At present I have mine set as thus:
GENERAL (TAB)
SD DVD Menus Tracks and Slideshows : 16:9 Pan-Scan
SIMULATOR (TAB)
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I'd appreciate any advice you could pass on this.
thanks

If you have 16:9 material set it for Letterbox do not use Pan & Scan or Pan & Scan with Letterbox.
On 16:9 tvs it will play back 16:9, on 4:3 televisons it will playback letterbox, though people can always change settings on TVs and DVD Players and mess things up.

Possible to pan and scan HD video with your home editing software?? (HD - SD size)

Hi, using Premiere Elements 7 on WinXp and also on Win 7.
I wonder if it's possible for us to do a pan and scan type process with our HD video? I ask because someone gave me some footage from the weekend where the composition was way too wide and large and I'd like to save the video, composed better, an SD quality.
Given the pixel resolution it should be possible. I know that's how they convert 35mm film to fit TV, but when it comes to video, can Premiere do it?
I can crop video in premiere but it will save the video at the same resolution, but all pixelized and looking wonky. How would I save 1080i video pan and scanned to 720 (p) or regular SD (640) which will still look decent on Youtube.
Here is an example (note, I also squeezed the footage to 97% horizontally first)
Can anyone give a tutorial?
Thanks

If it's hi-def video, you can import the video into a project set up for standard DV.
Before you use Get Media to get the video, go to Edit/Preferences and uncheck Scale to Frame Size.
When you place your video on the timeline, it will be much larger than the Monitor, and you will only see a portion of it. You should be able to use Crop and Scale to get just what you need and still have many pixels to spare. (And don't forget to press Enter to render the video before you judge its quality.)
Note that, depending on what format of video your original footage is in, you may need to work with the interlacing maybe reverse the field dominance. So I'd do a short test run and output to see how it looks before I committed to a full-length project.

How do I create motion for still photos/pictures. I'd like to pan/scan & zoom. Please help!

How do I create motion for still photos/pictures. I'd like to pan/scan & zoom. Please help!

You kind of answered your own question..
Check out Motion in the FX Control Window and learn how keyframing works..

How to Pan and Scan and keep a mask stationary?

I am trying to pan and scan a clip that has mask. But I do not want the mask to follow the pan and scan. Can this be done?
I am using CS5 on Win7

Thanks. So I just need to create a solid, punch my hole in it using the mask, disable the solid visibility, then use it as a track matt for my layer that I was trying to mask. This should work perfectly.
But why does a mask change positions and size when I change the layer's position and scale in the first place? If you change the track opacity, the mask opacity does not change. Does the mask also follow a parented layer's scale, etc? I have probably taken advantage of this "feature" in the past w/o thinking about it. But now it sounds counter-intuitive to me. It would be nice if there was an option for the mask size, position etc. to follow the layer's properties or not.

ATI Radeon 3870 for photomation pan/scan/zoom

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I'm thinking about upgrading to the ATI Radeon 3870, but before I commit I would like to know if it will help with faster renders on the photo pan/scan/zoom (i.e. Ken Burns) style moves that make up the bulk of my work. I know it's good for Motion, but what I'm really after is speed on FCP renders for photos that have keyframe animated scale, rotation, and position parameters, as well as basic filters and transitions.
Thanks!

I don't know what your workflow is, but I've animated hundreds of photos in Motion before without problem. And if I'm dealing with a long sequence (one was about 25 minutes long), I simply break it up into manageable pieces of 4-5 minutes long and reassemble in FCP. I could do all that and still be finished before I had the chance to animate a third of the photos in FCP alone.
To me, speed is a primary concern because obviously time is money. But as I said, I don't know how your workflow differs.
Andy

Why my pan&scan don't work

when i render all with color
just pan&scan dont render and i have set the keyframe
my project setting wrong?

There were a few versions of Final Touch where geometry was rendered,but its not generally recommended practice. I know its there, but it doesn't work very well, and is particularly bad with interlaced media. You are far better off doing the scaling and stuff in FCP. Where there are motion tabs in the original source FCP project, the XML export process in COLOR tries to preserve those settings and will ignore anything you do within the Geometry room.
jPo

Pan and Scan and zoom

The pan,scan and zoom on a still photo seems to be much smoother on the cheaper application 'Photo to Movie' than it is with FCE. Is it thus better to do those movements on a still on PtoM and then import them into FCE ?
I am working with FCE 2.
Anyone any ideas?

Sure, why not. Use whatever tools work well for you.
I had a quick look at the Photo to Movie site and one thing to be aware of is that of you export in the DV Stream format it might require rendering in FCE. I don't know how much control on export you have with Photo to Movie, you'll have to let us know what the options are.
Anyway this isn't a big issue and can be worked around if need be.

Best way to do a 4:3 pan & scan in terms of resolution?

Brethren,
I need to deliver a broadcast quality version of my project in 4:3 pan-and-scan. The project is made up of five 20 minute long pieces, usually holding about 1 or 2 layers of video, sometimes 3 or 4.
I've read a few other threads on this topic but I don't know that these solutions are ideal. Here are the possible methods I can imagine:
option a) apply a matte to each clip in the entire project
option b) change the overall settings of the project to ____?_____
option c) export the movie to a quicktime file and re-import it and then alter the settings
option d) take the entire timeline and "nest" it back into a new timeline and apply a single overall matte to that new nested timeline
*MAIN QUESTION*
*Which method is the best way to whittle things down to 4:3 and yet preserve image quality? I'm concerned that some of these strategies present issues of resolution loss. I want to avoid as much loss as possible. Is there a good method that I may have missed on my list?*
*SECONDARY QUESTION*
*Although I won't be "panning" too many clips, there will be a few clips that need to be scooted right or left. In such cases, what is the best method of "panning" while preserving image quality? (I think option "D" is unusable here because you can't pan individually if you've applied the matte to the whole enchilada.)*
MY SPECS
--The project exclusively uses footage from the Sony EX-1, shot at 24p, true 16:9.
--I edited the project using the XDCAM 1080p 24 VBR 35mbs codec. But I exported it to QuickTime using the ProRes 422 (HQ) codec. The resultant exported QuickTime files are 25 gigs each, which is a bit too bulky for my system's 16gigs of RAM to re-import and re-tinker.
thanks so much,
Shanked

A couple of things -
• it makes no sense to go to ProResHQ with your source material. It is way overkill. ProRes standard would have been plenty and would have much more reasonable data rates
• your work flow "bulky" problems have nothing to do with the RAM in the machine and everything to do with disk through put. If you are having hesitation issues, see the comment above re ProResHQ.
• Why did you shoot 24p if you knew you were headed to broadcast?
I need to deliver a broadcast quality version of my project in 4:3 pan-and-scan.
What format/codec is the broadcaster requesting? Does it need to be delivered on tape?
These are the issues that your solution will need to address -
generating a broadcast 4:3 version, you'll need to:
a) reduce the resolution to 720x486
b) allow for some image location manipulation while cropping the sides
c) add pull down to generate a 29.97 frame rate
If you didn't want to move the image around, the easiest way to do this would have been to simply drop the exported version of each segment of your project into Compressor and let Compressor do everything in one step and in a batch process. With the MacPro set up to run as a quick cluster, Qmaster will allow Compressor to access all cores of the machine and will speed the process along markedly.
Given the need to manipulate image position, you'll need an additional step before the files land in Compressor.
Create a duplicate sequence for each segment and, with the 4:3 ratio crop marks on the screen, manipulate the image locations as nec to maintain framing. Then export a reference version using current settings. (You could do this as a nest as well. I tend to stay away from nests as they can lead to other hard to trace down problems.)
Open up Compressor, bring in the manipulated files, apply the ProRes (standard quality) 720x486 preset, make sure frame controls are on better or best to smooth out the resizing and retiming. Frame controls gives you access to optical flow technology which will do a much better job than FCP alone can generate. Please note: You'll want to run some time vs quality tests. Frame controls set to "best" will dramatically increase rendering times.
Then launch the whole shebang as a batch process and let it run.
If you have something like a Kona 3 and you need to deliver on tape, the card will do the down conversion and add the pull down on the fly on playout to tape. This eliminates the whole Compressor step.
Good luck.
x

Panning and Scanning around type (or any object I guess)

Hopefully this is a simple one for the Motion Experts out there...
If you have a block of text (let's say 2D letters on a black background), and you want to pan and scan the text, maybe starting close up on one line of the text, scanning thru some or all of the text, and then ultimately pull back revealing the entire block neatly positioned in the center of your canvas, what's the best approach to take?
Would you use a camera even though you want the text to remain 2D?
Do you work back to front in terms of the position and size of the text, by starting with the text where you want it to end up and then setting up moves ahead of that position in the time line?
I've gotten close to what I want using keyframes, but it's just not as cool as what I've seen on some TV commercials I've seen.
Any hints on the best approach?
Thanks!

Using a camera is the easiest approach. The text will remain 2D no matter what you do because Motion does not do 3D text without a plugin.
I would start by putting all your text how you want it to end up, and then zoom the camera in to begin your animation.
The camera you can animate with either keyframes or behaviors, whichever with you feel more comfortable.
Andy

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