Enabling Silent Auto-update in Java 7.45 as a non-local administrator user, enterprise best practices?

So I have been looking through forums, java help, and everywhere possible for more insight on java in an enterprise environment. What I have found so
far is that there is no actual way to enable auto updates to install as a non-local admin user.
I know you can turn on and off updates My company wants to install java JRE as a silent-autoupdate "always update" kind of installation, but all my users are domain users, without admin rights. When it finds an update - it prompts for credentials and obviously they are denied. Is this even possible? If it is not possible to "auto-update" non local admins, I can make the case to management that java releases need to be QA'd and controlled releases. My environment is adminstudio/installshield and SCCM. I know auto-installing updates to java without QA per version , in a enterprise environment, is not good practice, but its not my decision right now.
thank you very much!

Hi and thank you very much for responding!
I'd be interested in further answers:
Our company is developing unsigned applets ...Why?Sufficient functionality. We dont want to e. g. access the customers local file system, we just wanted to use the applet as viewer sending data to and from the server where the applet was loaded from. Nothing else.
1. What is the idea to show messages for unsigned applets running in a secure sandbox.. why when running in a sandbox, and why not also for potentially more dangerous signed applets?With a signed applet you know who is taking the responsibility.With unsigned applets, I rely on the sandbox responsibility. I actually couldn't do anything dangerous by accident.
With signed applets, I'm fully responsible that nothing bad happens to the clients data. Preventing this is the main task for the java sandbox, so why not use it?
Just to clarify: Is it right that each signed applet has full access rights?
3. Is there any recommended strategy to sign an applet to work across browsers, platforms, JRE versions?Err, sign it?Does the signing scheme matter? According to http://mindprod.com/jgloss/signedapplets.html, there are lots of...
Could you recommend a good tutorial? I'm an absolute beginner concerning signing of applets.
4. Are there negative side-effects to sign an applet?Only that it forces you to sign all its components. Not sure what this question means.What about loading time and jar filesize?
Does JarIndex work with multiple signed modular applet jars?
Must javascript code also be signed to talk to signed applets?
Is a client able to see a signed applet a) without see or interact with a confirmation window and b) without doing any prerequisites (like adding certificates or similar)?
Thanks, Peter

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Flash player silent auto update not working

I was glad to read the news about the new feature of silent auto updates of the Adobe Flash player, but unfortunately this is not working on my machine. Has anyone had the same problems and was able to solve them?
Some information on my setup:
I had previously installed Flash player version 11.1.102.63, both ActiveX and Plugin version (installed through the .msi files, deployed via Active Directory/GPO - no further configuration, just plain original .msi files).
To test the auto update feature, I decided to install the new 11.2.202.228 version, but only the ActiveX version. I installed this via the .exe installer (install_flash_player_11_active_x_32bit.exe) manually, choosing "Install updates automatically when available (recommended)" in the last step of the installation, as seen here:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/background-updater-windows.html
When I open Control Panel -> Flash Player, under the "Advanced" tab I see:
"Install updates automatically" is chosen, but greyed out (no admin rights with this windows user)
ActiveX version: 11.2.202.228
Plug-In version: 11.1.102.63
The file "mms.cfg" under C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\ contains:
AutoUpdateDisable=0
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=1
The task "Adobe Flash Player Updater" was created and is scheduled to run every 1 hour. I can see that it is started ("last start time"), the result code is 0x0 which means "no error".
So everything as expected. But the auto update is not working, since the plugin version of flash player never gets updated!
I edited the "mms.cfg" and added:
SilentAutoUpdateVerboseLogging=1
After manually starting the task, there are some lines added to "FlashInstall.log" in the same directory:
2012-4-4+7-20-48.814 [info] 1614
2012-4-4+7-20-48.829 [info] 1615
2012-4-4+7-20-48.829 [info] 1618
2012-4-4+7-20-48.829 [info] 1619 1063
2012-4-4+7-20-48.876 [info] 1614
2012-4-4+7-20-48.876 [info] 1615
2012-4-4+7-20-48.876 [info] 1618
2012-4-4+7-20-48.876 [info] 1608
2012-4-4+7-20-48.876 [info] 1604
2012-4-4+7-21-10.425 [warning] 1403 12029
2012-4-4+7-21-10.425 [warning] 1407 183
2012-4-4+7-21-10.425 [warning] 1408
2012-4-4+7-21-10.456 [info] 1624
2012-4-4+7-21-10.456 [info] 1612
2012-4-4+7-21-10.456 [info] 1621
What does this mean?
Some more information:
Windows XP SP3, all windows updates installed, german
Avira Professional Security anti-virus software
Machine is behind a proxy server, but this is set up in Control Panel -> Internet Options
I suppose this is a problem with our proxy server. Does the auto updater not use the proxy information from the Windows Control Panel settings?
Kind Regards,
Martin

Hey Hans,
After reading of your sucsess I attempted to replicate it.
I am happy to say that I managed to update from Adobe Flash 11.2.202.228 to 11.2.202.233 on serveral different windows 7 notebooks and desktops sliently.
I went into the windows task scedular and ran the Adobe Flash Player Updater task (I didn't need to change anything in the task or the service for it to work).
The only issue I found was that if I ran the task again without restarting the computer no requests from the client would show up in the logs from my web server but if I restarted my computer and then reran the task it would work again. I'm assuming that it will only sent requests out every 24hours is talked about in page 18 of the Flash Player 11.2 Administration Guide.
My Web Servers logs look like this:
2012-04-27 05:45:01 W3SVC1967680676 10.135.12.38 GET /pub/flashplayer/update/current/sau/11/xml/version.xml - 443 - 10.135.13.17 Get+Flash+Player+version+xml/1.0 200 0 0
2012-04-27 05:45:05 W3SVC1967680676 10.135.12.38 GET /pub/flashplayer/update/current/sau/11/install/install_all_win_ax_sgn.z - 80 - 10.135.13.17 Download+Flash+Player+Installer/1.0 200 0 0
My mms.cfg looks like this:
AutoUpdateDisable=0
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=1
SilentAutoUpdateServerDomain=proxy.tallangatta-sc.vic.edu.au
I think the biggest issue I had during testing was that I forgot to my web servers certificate into the windows certificate stores trusts root certs of my notebooks/desktops. EG: http://blogs.adobe.com/livecycle/2012/04/rights-management-how-to-get-windows-7-to-trust-a -self-signed-server-certificate.html
I have since deployed the mms.cfg file and added my web servers certificate into the trusted root certs via group policy to all my clients and it is working very well. I have also writen a batch file to download the needed files from adobe for that backgroup updater and to put them on my web server. I created a daily task on my web server to run the batch file. If anyone wants the batch file or shell script please email me and I'll forward it on.
My batch file pretty much looks like this:
@echo off
:::::::::: INFOMATION ABOUT SCRIPT ::::::::::
:: This Script Titled adobe-flash-background-updates and was written by Tyrone Wyatt of www.cloudportal.org.
:: This Script is open to use by everyone and is not under any licence.
:: See flash_player_11_2_admin_guide.pdf for more infomation on how this script is required to function.
:::::::::: SCRIPT CONFIG ::::::::::
:: The TITLE option is the scripts name
set TITLE=adobe-flash-background-updates
:: The LOG option is the log file.
set LOG=./%TITLE%.log
:: The SOURCE option is the mirror on which you would like to download the flash files from.
set SOURCE=http://fpdownload2.macromedia.com
:: The DESTINATION option is where you would like your downloaded files to go so they are accessable by your web service.
set DESTINATION=d:\wwwroot\Proxy
:: The VERSION option is the current major version of Flash Player (for Flash Player 11.2, the major version is 11).
set VERSION=11
:: The Proxy settings for wget to use
set HTTP_PROXY=http://edupass.tallangatta-sc.vic.edu.au:8080
:::::::::: SCRIPT CORE ::::::::::
echo Welcome to %TITLE% Script!
echo =O====== %date% %time% ======== >> %LOG% 2>&1
if exist %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current\sau\%VERSION%\xml (
echo Skipping destination folder structure creation.
) else (
echo Creating destination folder structure.
mkdir %DESTINATION%\pub >> %LOG% 2>&1
mkdir %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer >> %LOG% 2>&1
mkdir %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update >> %LOG% 2>&1
mkdir %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current >> %LOG% 2>&1
mkdir %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current\sau >> %LOG% 2>&1
mkdir %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current\sau\%VERSION% >> %LOG% 2>&1
mkdir %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current\sau\%VERSION%\xml >> %LOG% 2>&1
mkdir %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current\sau\%VERSION%\install >> %LOG% 2>&1
echo Downloading files...
wget.exe -nv %SOURCE%/pub/flashplayer/update/current/sau/%VERSION%/xml/version.xml -O %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current\sau\%VERSION%\xml\version.xml >> %LOG% 2>&1
wget.exe -nv %SOURCE%/pub/flashplayer/update/current/sau/%VERSION%/install/install_all_win_ax_sgn.z -O %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current\sau\%VERSION%\install\install_all_win_ax_sgn .z >> %LOG% 2>&1
wget.exe -nv %SOURCE%/pub/flashplayer/update/current/sau/%VERSION%/install/install_all_win_pl_sgn.z -O %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current\sau\%VERSION%\install\install_all_win_pl_sgn .z >> %LOG% 2>&1
wget.exe -nv %SOURCE%/pub/flashplayer/update/current/sau/%VERSION%/install/install_all_win_64_ax_sgn.z -O %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current\sau\%VERSION%\install\install_all_win_64_ax_ sgn.z >> %LOG% 2>&1
wget.exe -nv %SOURCE%/pub/flashplayer/update/current/sau/%VERSION%/install/install_all_win_64_pl_sgn.z -O %DESTINATION%\pub\flashplayer\update\current\sau\%VERSION%\install\install_all_win_64_pl_ sgn.z >> %LOG% 2>&1
echo Script complete! See log file for more infomation %LOG%
echo =X====== %date% %time% ======== >> %LOG% 2>&1
echo. >> %LOG% 2>&1
:::::::::: END OF SCRIPT ::::::::::
Thanks for your help,
Tyrone Wyatt.

Silent auto update requires admin privileges

From what I have read the silent auto update feature is supposed to use the system account so the user can be a non-admin and it will still silently update in the background. However the users are getting the following error message popping up:
Adobe Flash Player 11.7 Installer
The installation encountered errors:
You must have administrative privileges to install Adobe Flash Player. Please log on with administrative priveleges and try again.
I configured the mms.cfg file as follows:
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=1
AutoUpdateDisable=0
Any ideas why this is happening? Would like a way to have it silently auto update to latest flash version even if user is non admin, since all our users run in this capacity. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

As my last post pointed out, it looks like it's using a regular updater instead of the silent one. Any ideas on why it's not using silent mode even though I configured the mms.cfg file as follows:
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=1
AutoUpdateDisable=0
Thanks!

Silent auto-update VPN install

Hi,
I have a 3000 series VPN Concentrator and I am trying to get the auto-update feature to update and install the VPN Client Silently/Unattended.
-MSI install
-previous version: 5.0.03.0350
-new version: 5.0.04.0300
I've got auto-update to notify and got the clients to download the update but the install part is not silent. We also have custom logos and when I click through to finish the update process, it did not copy the logos. When I run msiexec to install, the logos gets installed.
Any suggestions would be great - Thanks!

you may turn off silent mode in the file. You can launch silent installation from the command line by using the -sd parameter with the vpnclient.exe command. For example, vpnclient -sd toVPN.
To implement silent mode with or without customizing the VPN Client applications, you can create an oem.ini file containing only the part that configures silent mode. In this file, you turn silent mode on, identify the pathname and folder to contain the VPN Client software, and reboot the system, all without user interaction.
Here is the good link for silent install.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/security/vpn_client/cisco_vpn_client/vpn_client46/administration/guide/vcA_original.pdf

26 Aug 2010: auto update to Java 6.0.621 has stopped Firefox working. I used Add/Remove to remove the update and Firefox launched and displayed the website I was at (UK's Postal Museum) when the auto-update happened. What should do?

I recently updated to Firefox 3.6.8. During the install routine I thought I had said OK to the process of automatically updating associated addons so when the Postal Museum prompted for an update to a new release of Java I let it happen. I sent them an email but do not remember closing down Firefox. Hour later, I clicked the Firefox button to launch it again; two seconds of eggtimer then nothing else. Tried to launch it from Start/Programs/Mozilla/Firefox. Same eggtimer. (Running WindowsXP on a middle-aged desktop).

In Firefox 3.6 and later versions you need the Next-Generation Java™ Plug-In present in Java 6 U10 and later (Linux: libnpjp2.so; Windows: npjp2.dll).
http://java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml
Your plugins list shows outdated plugin(s) with known security and stability risks.
* Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32
* Java Plug-in 1.5.0_09 for Netscape Navigator (DLL Helper)
Update the [[Java]] plugin to the latest version.
*http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp (Java Platform: Download JRE)
Update the [[Flash]] plugin to the latest version.
*http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

Flash Player Prompting to Update with Auto Updates Disabled

My scenario:
Windows 7 x64
Flash Player 11.7
mms.cfg located in C:\Windows\Syswow64\Macromed\Flash
mms.cfg settings:
AutoUpdateDisable=1
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=0
I opened the Flash Player Settings Manager and under Advanced tab, verified "Never check for updates" is enabled.
I have both Standard and Administrative users receiving the following warning to update Flash player. Again, I have verified the settings are correct and auto update is showing as disabled.

Hello,
Unfortunately, it's difficult to troubleshoot this issue after the fact due to how the auto-update notification is triggered. If auto-updates are disabled in the mms.cfg file the update notification should not display, however, there is an edge case scenario that could result in the update notification displaying.
First, to clarify some comments regarding the update settings in the mms.cfg file:
The default update settings are:
AutoUpdateDisable=0 (notification update is enabled)
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=0 (silent auto-update is disabled)
Silent auto-update is an opt-in option, it is not the default setting. When installing using the EXE installer if the system is not already opted into silent auto-update the user will be prompted to select an update option and the mms.cfg file will be updated with this selection. The MSI installer does not write to the mms.cfg file, therefore, it does not prompt the user to select an update option. When Flash Player is installed using the MSI installer Flash Player simply honors whatever settings are already present in the mms.cfg file.
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=1 enables silent auto-update ONLY if AutoUpdateDisable=0 is set.
AutoUpdateDisable=1 disables notification AND silent auto-updates
As of Flash Player 11.5, uninstalling Flash Player using the standalone uninstaller will reset the update options to the default setting (documented on page 8 of the Flash Player Administrator's Guide):
AutoUpdateDisable=0 (notification update is enabled)
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=0 (silent auto-update is disabled)
If your Flash Player deployment process is to first uninstall the Flash Player using the standalone uninstaller and then install Flash Player using the MSI installer the system will be configured for notification updates since this is the default setting. In this case you must re-deploy the custom mms.cfg file to disable updates at the same time Flash Player is installed using the MSI installer (e.g. uninstall, install using MSI, deploy custom mms.cfg file disabling updates). If the custom mms.cfg file disabling updates is not re-deployed at installation time it is possible for Flash Player to detect an update is available resulting in the upate notification displaying.
Regarding 'loud' releases, if you rely on silent auto-updates to update Flash Player within your organization, and want to avoid the update notification associated with a 'loud' release, you can host the updates on an internal server. Details on how to do this are on page 19 of the Flash Player Administrator's Guide.
This functionality is tested extensively and we have not been able to reproduce the update notification displaying when updates are disabled. Nonetheless, I will try using the various Flash Player versions mentioned in this thread.
Maria

Disable JRE Auto update in Vista for all users?

I feel like a complete idiot that I can't figure this out, but it's either so obvious I'm overlooking it, or I just plain can't figure it out, so I'm hoping someone here can help.
We have not yet been able to figure out how to simply disabled the Auto Update option when installing JRE under Vista, so it will never check for updates, no matter what user is logged into a pc. I've just installed the newest version 1.6.0_05-b13, but get the same results.
Basically, we are creating a "base clone image" of a Vista workstation and we need the auto update feature of the JRE to be disabled so it doesn't check for updates. When a new user logs into the pc, we want them to 'inherit' this setting from the default user profile, or we simply want a 'global' setting on the pc that stops all JAVA update checks from occuring. But even though there are multiple registry keys that 'look' like they control the auto update function, no matter how we set them the update option still shows it is enabled when you open the JAVA control panel.
We have 2 basic problems:
- When a standard user runs the JAVA Control Panel applet and they select the 'Update' tab, the option to "uncheck" autoupdates is "grayed out". If we make the user a local administrator, then it is not grayed out anymore and they can set the option. Problem is, we have thousands of users and none of them are local administrators, hence the problem of getting it to already be defaulted to not check for updates. How do we get the update checkbox to NOT be grayed out for a NON-administrator?
- How do we set the 'global' (or default) option to disable the auto update checkbox for ALL users? No matter what we try, when a new user logs in, the auto update feature is still enabled after their initial profile is generated from the first time login.
I was able to figure out if I change the "EnableJavaUpdate" value in the below registry key, it will "remove" the Update tab from the JAVA Control Panel. But does the simply remove the tab? Or does it remove the tab AND disable auto updates for ALL users on the computer?
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\JavaSoft\Java Update\Policy
I've sent multiple emails to Sun asking for help on what should be a simple thing to do, but have never received a reply from them.
Keith Hemmelman

Thank you for the reply. I apologize for not getting back here sooner.
We actually already use a deployment.properties file located under the Default User profile on our Vista setup. It's located under the "C:\Users\Default\AppData\LocalLow\Sun\Java\Deployment" folder. This file does get copied over to a new user profile when a new person logs in. This is what we want since we have set things like the maximum cache size and temporary file location.
The problem though is there is no setting that disables the automatic update check within this file. The best I can figure out is that for some reason under the Vista environment, the auto update setting is controlled in the registry at: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\JavaSoft\Java Update\Policy
There is a REG_BINARY key there that appears to control this option. It is named "EnableAutoUpdateCheck". The problem is that the value of this key is "several" characters long and it is "different" from one user to the next. I tried disabling auto update under the Java Control Panel and then copied the value of this key into the same aread of the Default User hive but when a new user logs in, it ignores that setting and auto update is still enabled. I also tried using a simple "0" to disable the autoupdate or a "1" to enable it for this key, but it doesn't work either. (This is very frustrating why there isn't a simple 1 or 0 setting to turn the auto update setting on/off.)
We had no problem getting this to work under XP. Basically we didn't have to do anything special in XP. We simply created a temporary user account and made all the settings we wanted and then copied that profile over to our Default User profile and the Java autoupdate setting under the Java Control Panel was disabled for all new users. We did the same thing under Vista, but the auto update setting was ignored and re-enabled for all new users.
I read through the settings for the deployment.properties file located at the below link, but there is nothing there to control the auto update setting.
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/deployment/deployment-guide/properties.html
Thus, we can't get the auto update setting to be disabled in the default user profile so it will in turn be disabled for all new users that log into the computer. This is extremely frustrating.
The other equally frustrating problem we have run into under the Vista environment is that when you run the Java Control Panel, the option to disable the auto update check is "grayed out" and the user can't uncheck this option to disable auto update. We have found you must be an administrator before this option is no longer grayed out. Since none of our thousands of users are admins, this is also a problem for us. (This option works fine for a standard user if you are on a XP machine though. It's just Vista where things have changed.)
I've sent repeated emails to Sun in the past asking for help, but they never replied.
Keith

Flash Player auto-update fails to perform major updates

I'm managing Flash Player on a large number of Intel Mac computers. I have enabled the auto-update feature. Auto-update seems to work for minor updates (for example current version and update version are both 16.x.x). However the auto-update consistently fails to perform major version updates (for example from 16.x to 17.x).
mms.cfg file location:
/Library/Application Support/Macromedia/mms.cfg
contents:
AutoUpdateDisable=0
SilentAutoUpdateEnable=1

Hi,
Flash Player 17 was what is referred to as a 'loud' release and is distributed via the adobe.com site and not via silent auto-update. This blog post An outline of Flash Runtime installation options, specifically the 'Installation Options' section) provides more information. If you license Flash Player for distribution, the blog post, and the Flash Player Administrator's Guide offer various options for organizations to update Flash Player without the possible delay of the 'loud' releases. I'm happy to answer questions on the update options you may have after reviewing the blog post and the Administrator's guide.
Maria

Adobe is not maintaining Flash Player auto-update

Flash Player auto-update is broken. The URL that is checked by the auto-update agent has not been maintained properly by Adobe:
https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/update/current/sau/11/xml/version.xml
<version>
     <ActiveX major="11" minor="4" buildMajor="402" buildMinor="287"/>
     <Plugin major="11" minor="4" buildMajor="402" buildMinor="287"/>
     <MacPlugin major="11" minor="4" buildMajor="402" buildMinor="287"/>
     <SAUConfig checkFrequency="1"/>
</version>
This information is obviously out-of-date, as the current full-release version is Adobe Flash Player version 11.5.502.110.
http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
As a result, client machines relying on the auto-update process are not being patched. The client machines themselves appear to be checking properly - they have internet access and fpsaud appears to be working properly.
There's really no point to having the auto-update facility if you're not going to maintain it. You might as well just pull it out of the product.

This is as designed. The silent auto update mechanism is not updated until 30 days after a major release. However, the older style UI notifications are sent out within 7 days (and a system restart). Hopefully the FAQ below explains how this works.
How does the automatic update feature work in Flash Player?
If you are responsible for updating clients within an enterprise network, we do have an option available that allows you to run your own update server and immediately push out builds silently and automatically.
http://blogs.adobe.com/spohl/2012/04/24/it-admin-deploying-flash-player-via-background-upd ater/

Must be Auto update flash Player/AIR [No update alert]

Every second day Adobe are improving the flash player and AIR, so Flash Player must be Auto update to newer versions and (Major and minor) [No update alert]. It should auto check, and auto download and auto update the flash player. There should not be any user interaction needed. And no administration rights as Flash player is already installed on system, Adobe is just auto updating it. So no alert or dialog box to update player just auto update with out any message as Google Chorme is doing right now (Google chrome update the browser application without any alert to user). So Please follow it.
Why it's required: Every second day Adobe programmers are improving and adding new features, but Flash/Flex developers around the globe can not use those features as their target customers (users) don't have the updated version of flash player/AIR. We can show the alert but we know most of users pick the "NO" as their preferred option.
How can Adobe implement this, there are privacy issue: Adobe can implement this by changing their Adobe flash player agreement (for new installations). They can add one "Flash player policy" web page to their website and link at their home page. Adobe can add one more menu element in their setting tab (right click flash player menu). It's will take little time but for future, it will be really easy for developers to adopt the new feature and software from Adobe.
Please think about it.

Hi ersatyle,
Thanks for clarifying.
will flash player be automatically updated while a standard user is connected (no admin rights) and without any notifications.
By pointing the Background Updater to an internal server, yes.
Are those settings will work as I intended?
The AutoUpdateInterval setting in the mms.cfg has no effect on the Background Updater. AutoUpdateInterval can only be used for the notification updater. If you're setting up background updates from an internal server, this property is best dropped from the mms.cfg to avoid confusion. The other settings will work as expected. Once you have your clients set up and tested, I also recommend dropping SilentAutoUpdateVerboseLogging, since this will reduce the size of the log file.
As we'll use 32 bits browsers do I need to put the mms.cfg file also in c$\Windows\System32\Macromed\Flash, If it wont work, is it doable?
There is only one location for the mms.cfg. The same file is used for 32-bit and 64-bit browsers. From the administration guide, page 22:
mms.cfg file location:
Assuming a default Windows installation, Flash Player looks for the mms.cfg file in the following system directories:
•32-bit Windows - %WINDIR%\System32\Macromed\Flash
•64-bit Windows - %WINDIR%\SysWow64\Macromed\Flash
Note: The %WINDIR% location represents the Windows system directory, such as C:\WINDOWS.
I hope this answers your questions. Let us know if there's anything else.
-Stephen

Best practice of OSB logging Report handling or java code using publish

Hi all,
I want to do common error handling of OSB I did two implementations as below just want to know which one is the best practice.
1. By using the custom report handler --> When ever we want to log we will use the report action of OSB which will call the Custom java class which
Will log the data in to DB.
2. By using plain java class --> creating a java class publish to the proxy which will call this java class and do the logging.
Which is the best practice and pros and cons.
Thanks
Phani

Hi Anuj,
Thanks for the links, they have been helpful.
I understand now that OSR is only meant to contain only Proxy services. The synch facility is between OSR and OSB so that in case when you are not using OER, you can publish Proxy services to OSR from OSB. What I didn't understand was why there was a option to publish a Proxy service back to OSB and why it ended up as a Business service. From the link you provided, it mentioned that this case is for multi-domain OSBs, where one OSB wants to use the other OSB's service. It is clear now.
Some more questions:
1) In the design-time, in OER no Endpoints are generated for Proxy services. Then how do we publish our design-time services to OSR for testing purposes? What is the correct way of doing this?
Thanks,
Umar

SQL 2008 R2 Best Practices for Updating Statistics for a 1.5 TB VLDB

We currently have a ~1.5 TB VLDB (SQL 2008 R2) that services both OLTP and DSS workloads pretty much on a 24x7x365 basis. For many years we have been updating statistics (full scan- 100% sample size) for this VLDB once a week on the weekend, which
is currently taking up to 30 hours to complete.
Somewhat recently we have been experiencing intermitent issues while statistics are being updated, which I doubt is just a coincidence. I'd like to understand exactly why the process of updating statistics can cause these issues (timeouts/errors). My theory
is that the optimizer is forced to choose an inferior execution plan while the needed statistics are in "limbo" (stuck between the "old" and the "new"), but that is again just a theory. I'm somewhat surprised that the "old" statistics couldn't continue to
get used while the new/current statistics are being generated (like the process for rebuilding indexes online), but I don't know all the facts behind this mechanism yet so that may not even apply here.
I understand that we have the option of reducing the sample percentage/size for updating statistics, which is currently set at 100% (full scan). Reducing the sample percentage/size for updating statistics will reduce the total processing time, but
it's also my understanding that doing so will leave the optimizer with less than optimal statistics for choosing the best execution plans. This seems to be a classic case of not being able to have one’s cake and eat it too.
So in a nutshell I'm looking to fully understand why the process of updating statistics can cause access issues and I'm also looking for best practices in general for updating statistics of such a VLDB. Thanks in advance.
Bill Thacker

I'm with you. Yikes is exactly right with regard to suspending all index optimizations for so long. I'll probably start a separate forum thread about that in the near future, but for now lets stick to the best practices for updating statistics.
I'm a little disappointed that multiple people haven't already chimed in about this and offered up some viable solutions. Like I said previously, I can't be the first person in need of such a thing. This database has 552 tables with a whole lot more statistics
objects than that associated with those tables. The metadata has to be there for determining which statistics objects can go (not utilized much if at all so delete them- also produce an actual script to delete the useless ones identified) and what
the proper sample percentage/size should be for updating the remaining, utilized statistics (again, also produce a script that can be used for executing the appropriate update statistics commands for each table based on cardinality).
The above solution would be much more ideal IMO than just issuing a single update statistics command that samples the same percentage/size for every table (e.g. 10%). That's what we're doing today at 100% (full scan).
Come on SQL Server Community. Show me some love :)
Bill Thacker

Best practice to update inline/publish folio?

Hi there
Think all is in my question
I have an online application with an online folio and I need to update the same folio with a new version.
What is the best practice to organize my work ?
DId I have to continue working in Indesign with the same ID but no update/re publish it in Folio Producer (this option scared me totally... what if mu draft goes online???)
Did I have to recreate another folio and after testing it, publish it with the same Folio name and description ?? ( not sure it will update the same file as it is not the same)
What is the best practice to organise me/my work/my file ?
Thank U

Hi there
Think all is in my question
I have an online application with an online folio and I need to update the same folio with a new version.
What is the best practice to organize my work ?
DId I have to continue working in Indesign with the same ID but no update/re publish it in Folio Producer (this option scared me totally... what if mu draft goes online???)
Did I have to recreate another folio and after testing it, publish it with the same Folio name and description ?? ( not sure it will update the same file as it is not the same)
What is the best practice to organise me/my work/my file ?
Thank U

Best Practice for Retiring Superseded or Expired Updates

If you want to clear out superseded or expired updates, do you delete them from your update package, the deployment package, or both? Or is there another best practice for this?
Thanks,
Bryan

Hi Torsten, im reading this article because im actualy planing to solve some kind of the the same problem.
I create Software Update Groups with monthly patches, and then i will deploy this to certain Client Collections.
If there becomes a single Patch, the Status, "expired", out of the Software Update Group, what would be the effect for the whole Software Update Group wich still have an active deployment?
Thanks for your sugestion.

NI Update Service and non-administrative user

On my Windows 7 PC I have 2 different users:
a local Administrator user who can install application but can't navigate to the web (for security reasons)
an User who can't install anything but can navigate to the web
I launch NI Update Service under User account and it shows a list of available updates.
I select one or more of these updates and I click on "Install" button
Is asks me for the Administrator password, but then it gives a communication error with NI...
Does it use Administrator user to download the updates?
It should use it only to install and not to download
Vix
In claris non fit interpretatio
Using LV 2013 SP1 on Win 7 64bit
Using LV 8.2.1 on WinXP SP3
Using CVI 2012 SP1 on Win 7 64bit, WinXP and WinXP Embedded
Using CVI 6.0 on Win2k, WinXP and WinXP Embedded

Yes, I tried but if I select "Run as administrator" Windows asks me for credential of an administrator account.
I enter username and password, but my administrator account can't communicate to the web and so I get the error in the attached image (comm_err.jpg).
As I wrote, I think that the problem is that NI Update Service uses the administrator user not only to install the programs but also to download them from the NI servers.
I don't think this is OK because as shown in the attached install.jpg the button with the administrator shield is "Install", but after I click on it and enter the administrator credentials, NI Update Service tries to download the selected programs.
But with my administrator user this is not allowed.
It should download them with the user that launched it (with this user it is able to find the list of available updates) and use the administrator user only to install.
Could someone from NI confirm that this is the behavior of NI Update Service, please?
Vix
In claris non fit interpretatio
Using LV 2013 SP1 on Win 7 64bit
Using LV 8.2.1 on WinXP SP3
Using CVI 2012 SP1 on Win 7 64bit, WinXP and WinXP Embedded
Using CVI 6.0 on Win2k, WinXP and WinXP Embedded
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