End of Sky Sports - grounds for breaking contract?

Apologies for some repetition of other queries but I've been looking through the board and am still not clear.
1) I currently purchase Sky Sports 1&2 as part of my contract. It seems that as I am not in an infiinity area I will no longer receive these. My contract is until November. If I wished to leave BT in order to get Sky Sports with another provider would I be leigitmately able to do so without penalty?
2) I am not currently in an infinity area but expect to be early next year at the latest (there appears to be a cabinet already installed within a half mile of my house) - will I be able to receive the BT sports channels for free via the app on my current package (until infinity is installed)?
Thanks.
Tom.

tfpattison wrote:
Apologies for some repetition of other queries but I've been looking through the board and am still not clear.
1) I currently purchase Sky Sports 1&2 as part of my contract. It seems that as I am not in an infiinity area I will no longer receive these. My contract is until November. If I wished to leave BT in order to get Sky Sports with another provider would I be leigitmately able to do so without penalty?
2) I am not currently in an infinity area but expect to be early next year at the latest (there appears to be a cabinet already installed within a half mile of my house) - will I be able to receive the BT sports channels for free via the app on my current package (until infinity is installed)?
Thanks.
Tom.
As sky sports is a rolling thing that can be cancelled with 30 days notice, I doubt it going will be grounds for ceasing your contract. I understand how you feel though. Many SS customers on BT will be forced to go back to sky if they cant get infinity and want a lot PL football.
Your best bet is to ring BT and see what they will do. They may have provision for this in place.

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