ESOA: "Lean Order functionality cannot be used?" -- RESOLVED!!

Hello SAP Gurus,
<b><i>Problem:</i></b> While the sales orders perfectly  get created using "<b>eSOA: ECC_SALESORDER009QR problems.
<i>Any comments on any part of this message -- hints/feedback on tracing/debugging, no matter how short is the suggestion, would be appreciated!</i>
Message was edited by:
        Fakher Halim

Hi Fakher,
I hada look at your problem the other day when you first raised the issue. I investigated it for nearly an hour but put it aside then because I got really more and more angry with it.
So, I can't give you any hint but nevertheless decided to drop a short note. I fully agree with your remarks.
I believe that though SAP in the high ranks rightfully embarked for the right vision towards the SOA paradigm, those who design actual Enterprise Services do it kind of an old-fashioned EAI-way. Maybe the interprete 'Enterprise' in ESOA as 'Intra-Enterprise only'.
What I came across was a paragraph in the ECC_SALESORDERCRTRC (what should a non-SAP service consumer think of that service reading that name? will he/she ever be able to memorize that?) which stated something like
<i>Following parameters MUST NOT be supplied any value</i>
followed by a list of input parameters of the service. What are such parameters good for??
The other day I came across another Enterprise Service which contained a number of completely cryptic parameters. After some searching I learnt that this were (patented) global data types which you could only understand if you got hold of some several pages long word documents which were at the time only available SAP internally although the services have long been published then. I think they're still kept secret, atl east I have never seen one or seen a reference to it.
Did you notice that the description of ECC_SALESORDERCRTRC says that it is deprecated and another service should be used instead but it doesn't tell which one?
I could continue ranting another few hours on this topic but as I found out no one of SAP joins a discussion on this.
So I can only conclude that Enterprise Services are not meant to be used by any third party service consumer, at least at the moment..
One last thing. Have you ever seen an enumeration in an Enterprise Service's WSDL? For a long time I thought they have just forgotten to implement it in their current SOAP runtime implementation. I mean, they have a great DDIC, domain values and stuff, they have an inside-out webservice generation wizard but they do not create XSD enumeration restrictions? Why? could it be that they do that on purpose? To make it as difficult as possible for a non-SAP service consumer to understand theservice and auto-generate useful proxies? I wish I would know.
Concerning the ticket stuff (aka bug reporting tool): Ironically as a third-party service consumer you can't file a CSN ticket no matter how broken the service is. You have to find a SAP customer to file it for you (probably the one whose actual service you want to consume). If you've found bug reporting proxy customer he'll know how to open a ticket.
sorry that I couldn't be of any help with your problem.
kind regards, anton

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