EXCISE DUTY IN CASE OF SALES RETURNS

Hi,
When we create a RE document with reference to a billing document which is excise based, then all excise values also gets copied to the RE document and when we create the credit memo for this RE then excise values also gets posted to cenvat suspence account.
Now for returns how do we reverse excise or credit taken ?
Pls explain the process ?
Regards
Krishna

Hi,
In J1IH ... U had written Credit Entries and Debit Entries... i would request to know that debit entires means debit entries done or to be done ...
Like when we do sales:
Billing:
DR - Customer
CR - Cenvat Suspence Accc
Excise Invoice
Dr - Cenvat SSE
Dr - Payables
now when we do goods returns:
we need to get credit back to out input accounts .... so we would use which transaction in this case ?
In Returns
Cr - Customer
Dr - Cenvat Suspence Accnt
Now how give Cr to Cenvat SSE and Dr. input accounts ?
regards
krishna

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Is correct, If I have a return referred to an invoice with BED, CESS and S&HCess, to use "Additional Excise" (RG23A) to insert BED and S&HCess and "Other Adjustments" (PLA) for CESS? this means 2 excise documents to rectify excise amounts in case of return.
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Excise Entries in case of sales return

Dear sap mites
Can any one guide me during sales return how excise gets reversed as we would have already paid to the govt during sales how do we take input credit back
please do explain with GL account entries and an example if possible will be very grateful to you
Its of high priority as i have a presentation in front of my client

Ideal way of Excise Entries incase of return may not be cancelling Excise Invoice through J1IIN, as it may be possible that through Excise Invoice, say 10 Quantity was despatched & Return is only 2 quantity.
The Option widely used is as under:
Incase of Return Sales Order:
T.Code for copy control: VTAF
Source Document: F2
Target Document: RE
Item category REN
Considering the above settings are done:
Create return sales order RE (with Reference to Billing Document) & the data will be copied as it is in Return Sales Order - RE. For Eg: here you require to change to quantity from 10 to 2, as you want to take back into Inventory of only 2.
Incase of Return Delivery:
T.Code for copy control: VTLA
Source Document: RE
Target Document: LR
Item category REN
Considering the above settings are done:
Create Return Delivery through T.Code VL01N & do PGR (Post Goods Receipt). This will add the stock to blocked stock. This will take care of Inventory.
To address the issue of how to take Credit for Excise, use T.Code: J1IH --> other Adjustment & based on the credit to be taken, make the necessary entry.
Incase of Credit Memo:
T.Code for copy control: VTFA
Source Document: RE
Target Document: Credit Memo
Item category G2N (Check in System)
First in VA02, remove the Billing Block in Return Sales Order - RE & save the document. Now in T.Code: VF01, enter Return Sales Order Number & select the appropriate Billing Type (Credit Memo) & Enter& Save. This will create Credit Memo.
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Excise duty credit in custmore sales return

Hi Experts
When we receive the sale return from customer we follow the below process.
Create sales order with order type sales return
Create return delivery. It create stock for return material.
VF01 Accounting entry pass in customer account.
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Please go through the below links there are lot of threads on sales returns excise capturing.
Go through the forum rules of engagement.
Excise duties not flowing while creating return excise invoice
SALES RETURN J1IH
Excise Returns
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S.Himavanth.

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can i have the system customised in such a way that for the scenario of debit of duty in case of purcase return , the debit should happen to rg 23 part2 . And if there is no balance then it should debit rg23 c part 2 and if there is a no balance in it then it should then debit PLA .???
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HI,
can i have the system customised in such a way that for the scenario of debit of duty in case of purcase return , the debit should happen to rg 23 part2 . And if there is no balance then it should debit rg23 c part 2 and if there is a no balance in it then it should then debit PLA .???
First basic things
Rg23A
Rg23C
RG23D
PLA
are different register and for different purpose.
EX< if you are returning row material to vendor then Rg23A will update as row material you know it very well.
now how you can use Rg23C balance fro row material ?
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yes if don't have any balance in Rg23A then you have to use PLA
still i have dought on that.
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Regards
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Hi,
In case of
A. Procurement : there are two types of procurement viz. Local and Import
LOCAL
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Inventory A/c Dr
To GR?IR
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CENVATReceivable (Ecess) A/c - Dr
CENVAT Receivable (S & H) A/c - Dr
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PLA Payment (Ecess) A/c - Dr
PLA Payment (S & H) A/c - Dr
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ECS+SECS on Cus+CVD A/c Dr (consists of ECS on custm+cvd and S & H on custm+cvd)
CVD Clearing A/c Dr (consists of Additional Duty CVD and CVD)
Customs Clearing A/c Dr (consists of Basic Customs)
To Customs Vendor
2. MIGO
Inventory A/c - Dr
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To Customs Clearing (consists of Basic Customs)
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CENVAT Receivable (Basic) A/c - Dr
CENVATReceivable (Ecess) A/c - Dr
CENVAT Receivable (S & H) A/c - Dr
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PLA Payment (Ecess) A/c - Dr
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There is requirement of the client that when making the billing - Outgoing Excise Invoice.
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Excise Duty Suspense Account Debit
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When at the end of the month when doing utilization
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How can we configure this scenario.
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Path ::::::: SPRO -> Logistics - General -> Tax on Goods Movement -> India -> Account Determination -> Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction
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Excise Invoice
J1IIN
Dr        /             GL A/c    /     Excise Paid     /   Cenvat sse    /   Excise Excel /    DLFC    /   Profit and loss
Cr        /     GL A/c    /     ED Payable     /   RG23A AT1   /   Excise Excel /    DLFC   /   Balance Sheet
Cr       /     GL A/c    /     ED Payable     /   RG23A BED   /   Excise Excel /    DLFC   /    Balance Sheet
Cr       /     GL A/c   /     ED Payable     /   G/L RG23AE /   Excise Excel /    DLFC   /    Balance Sheet
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Sanj

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Excise return in Sales Return

Hi All
During sales return process how to reverse the excise duty as well as sales tax. i understand that we do Excise return in J1IH transaction code. still i want to know with reference to which excise number we do return process.
Thanks in advance

In case customer returns the partial goods how to reverse the partial excise invoice.I hope it is not possible in J1iH.Could you please explanin or else any other method is there?
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D Friends,
In case of Sales Return the doc flow is VA01-> VL01N (PGR)-> VF01 (Credit for returns). We don't do J1IIN. So pls tell how the Excise is reversed.
Thanks a lot.

Hi
As Suggested you can make a Journal Voucher entry for Excise reversal .Since for returns there is no excise document created as of practical, So there is no need of creating a return excise document using transaction J1IIN.
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Customer Sales Return in Depot

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There is a scenarion where in materials are sold from a Depot. The process we are following is that we are preparing the sales order, then the delivery document with respect to the sales order. After the delivery document is created we are updating the RG23D register through J1IJ, with reference to the delivery document. Then we are preparing the billing document with reference to the delivery document.
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Returns from Customer to Depot
1) Create a Depot return sales order in VA01 with reference to original billing document
2) Create Delivery
3) Create Transfer Posting using MB1B with Movement type 453 and dont forget to make a note of the material document number
4) Go to J1IG, click "Capture". There enter material document number and the respective series group. Then click "details". Now select the line and click "More documents". Maintain the excise invoice number created at supplying plant.
Returns from Depot to supplying plant
1) Go to J1IG and click on red icon from the toolbar. Enter material document number created during MIGO, year,series group of Depot and hit Enter button. Now click on "Item" so that you will be taken to next screen where you can see line item for RG23D cancellation. Save so that system prompts you asking whether you want to cancel the entry. Click YES.
2) Verify this by going to tables J_1IEXCHDR & J_1RG23D. Check GRPO entry in both the tables where the status must have changed to "D"
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Hi Experts,
We are facing an issue where system calculates basic excise duty in case of deemed export(duty free) . In some invoices it calculates basic excise duty though it should not calculate as it is duty free.
Our scenario is like this:-
At sales order in deemed export we take alternative tax classification as "7"( Header level - Billing tab). Due to this my JMOD value becomes Zero which is ok. Another condition type is JEX2 which is 100% of JMOD.
Now while creating invoice at VF01, value of JMOD AND JEX2 are Zero which is absolutely OK. But at the time of release to accounting system update 12% value in JEX2 only which flows to G/L.
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PR00                                                  100
UTXJ(100% Of PR00)                           100
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JEX2(100% OF JMOD)                         0
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PR00                                                  100
UTXJ(100% Of PR00)                           100
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Dear Experts,
If anyone face this issue please give your valuable inputs. I will highly appreciates if got some advise or suggestion on the issue in J1IIN
We have done the debug at our end and following is the observation
The name of the include is - MJ1IINF01
The variable that needs to be watched is - CUST_TYP
The perform called during the execution is DETERMINE_INVOICE_TYPE
1) Export first and deemed next
When we first create invoice for export the variable CUST_TYP is set to
“F” and the invoice is created as per expected with correct duties.
After this if we create a deemed invoice without exiting the screen the
invoice type under “UTILIZATION”, include keeps CUST_TYP as “F” and
do
not change it to “L”. Hence it remains export. Which is the cause of
problem we are facing at present..
But in next case it changes CUST_TYP properly as explained below.
2) Deemed first and Export next
When we first create invoice for deemed the variable CUST_TYP is set to
“L” and the invoice is created as per expected with correct duties.
After this if we create a export invoice without exiting the screen the
invoice type under “UTILIZATION” include changes CUST_TYP as “F” and
hence we get desired effect.
Our analysis shows that the include is not able to change variable
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correctly changes to “F” from “L”.
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Credit memo -Depot sale return

Hello Guru,
I am facing problem in credit return memo regarding excise amount.
Since this is depot scenario after doing J1IJ i am doing invoice where excise value is picking from J1IJ...which is ok.
when i am doing depot return with reference to invoice it is copying right excise value from invoice.....which is ok.
But when i am doing my credit memo for return it is not copying excise value from sales return order.
Copy control is ok i.e. D.
Values of excise in return credit memo is copied from the orginal sales order.
Also i tried with doing first J1IG to capture return excise and then i did vf01, even though i am not getting the excise value which is in sales return order.whie generating the credit memo system is doing the recalculation of pricing.
Regards
amit Varma

HI,
Please follow the below link and check the configuration as per standard SAP:-
http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/sap-sd-cin-configuration.htm
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REVERESE SUBCONTRACTING WITH EXCISE DUTY

Job Work done by Client with excise duty
Business Process,
                             Raw material got from the Customer & it is processed by Client finished goods are made the same will be delivered to the Customer with excise duty.
Details:
1     Sales order will be created with the details of raw materials that customer agreed to give & finished product that customer need after getting the P.O from the customer.
2     Customer will send the material with excise invoice (paid by customer).
3     Client receives the material post the customer excise invoice with part-1 & part-2 entry in the RG23A register.i.e Cenvat credit taken by Client for the customer material.
4     The received Raw material processed by Client converted to finished product with RG1 entry.
5     Finished send to the customer with excise duty paid by Client
6     As excise duty liability is with Client every month excise duty difference between credit taken & paid is settled with customer.
E.g. For August month
          Cenvat credit taken for raw materials Rs-10000
          Excise duty paid by the Client Rs-50000
          Difference to be paid by the customer to Client is Rs-40000
Pl guide me how to map this process in cin
Regards
Umapathy.M

Hai,
The pre requisties for this scenario in CIN part is
1. Create the input raw material with UNBW material type.
2. Create the customer as a vendor.
3. Maintain the input material in J1ID with material type raw material & chapter ID.
4. Maintain the excise details for this vendor with excise indicator.
5.Maintain the assessable value for this material in J1ID. This has to be flow for excise calculation.
6.Maintain the excise tax rates for the Chapter id in J1ID.
7.Mainain the 501 Mvt type in IMG - Logistics general - Tax on goods & movements - India - Business transactions - Incoming excise invoices - specify which mvt type involves excise invoices.
8.Maintain the settings for register entries & GL accts in Acct determination in IMG - Logistics general - Tax on goods & movements - India - Acct determination for the excise transaction type EWPO.
The steps involves are
1.Create a sale order with excise tax code conditions for the processed fininshed product.
2.Do the MIGO with other receipt for 501 Mvt type to receive the raw material. Capture the excise invoice in the MIGO itself.
3.Post the excise invoice by J1IEX.
4.Do the process with PP cycle.
5.Send the finished product with SD route.
6.Do the Billing & outgoing excise invoice.
7.The SD Pricing procedure has to be configured as per the requirement.
8.Check the accting entries at the Customer acct.

EXCISE DUTY IN CASE OF SALES RETURNS

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