Exporting anamorphic videot to Widescreen H254

Hi all,
I've been trying to export an anamorphic video using Final Cut Pro 5.1.2 into H264.
I've exported a few varying the keep aspect ration option between fit to dimensions, crop, etc
But I can't get it to export properly so when opened in quicktime it's 16:9. It either squeezes it or crops it.
Any advice?

Sam:
Check this Compressor thread:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=635868
Just addapt the size to your needings. Let me know if you need more details.

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Exporting Anamorphic scenes

Hello,
In one project I added a new anamorphic scene Scene2. When I export this scene, I get a correct widescreen video. I added this scene in front of my anamorphic Scene1. When exporting this, I get a letterboxed video.
How is this possible ? How can I export it to a widescreen video ?
Thanks,
Hubert

Hubet wrote:
All item properties are anamorphic.
Hubert, is that true for all sequences as well as clips?
It should be true for every item and it should be true BEFORE inserting clips in the timeline.
edit : If you didn't do it this way, do it again...
Also: Which export method are you using (File > Export Quicktime movie, or Export Using Quicktime Conversion? The latter will gives you the option to set the Aspect Ratio, when choosing Export Using Quicktime Conversion > Quicktime Movie > Options > Settings > [DV - PAL] > Aspect Ratio. Be aware that are a lot other settings that cab go wrong there.
Rienk
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Export HD to NTSC Widescreen -- not truly 16:9

If you export HD footage, 1080x1920 for example, to NTSC Widescreen, you end up with 720x480 with rectangular pixels that have a 1.2121 pixel aspect ratio. That means, the display is effectively 873x480 pixels, which is a a screen aspect ratio of about 16.4:9 instead of 16:9. What you end up with is the original video image squashed between thin, vertical black bars on the right and left sides (not the thick black bars you get when you display a 4:3 video in a 16:9 display).
If you open the video in an NTSC Widescreen Sequence, you'll see those black bars. The video image does not fill the screen.
This is easily fixed: change the Scale Width value to 102.3 (uncheck Uniform Scale). That puts the image portion of the clip into the proper aspect ratio (and shoves the black bars off the left and right sides of the screen). But I'd rather change the scale of all the clips in a project.
Since NTSC has to be 720x480 pixels, if you want to display something at a 16:9 ratio, the pixel aspect ratio should be 1.185 instead of 1.2121.
Perhaps an Adobe engineer can explain why exporting HD to NTSC Widescreen creates a video with black vertical bars and how a 720x480 (with rectangular pixels with a 1.2121 aspect ratio) clip can be considered as having a 16:9 aspect ratio.
Thanks,
Jeff Sengstack

you have to do your frame aspect ratio calculations based on the image area (clean aperture) not the production aperture.
page 4...this link
http://www.panavision.com/publish/2007/12/10/GenesisFAQs20071207.pdf
My take on this is that CCD's that are full size for 35mm film ( beginning of aspect ratios for a lot of stuff ) there is less fudging re: transforming a smaller chip size to the correct exact image size, that the image size derrived from the real camera recording may not be exactly the "production" aspect ratio sizes...or something like that... It is confusing to me also, as I have no video cameras, digital or otherwise, and don't shoot anything but still film.
I think ( not sure but think I read ) that the red camera actually has a CCD "larger" than the genesis, so it actually is capable of recording higher resolutions than typical 4.4.4 production dimensions....but how that works into "clean" image area and aspect ratio is confusing to me also...
To further confuse me, this article has info on exact number of lines broadcast for pal and ntsc...
note THIS in the article ===------------------------------------------------------
NTSC Video
525 scan lines per frame, 30      frames per second (or be exact, 29.97 fps, 33.37 msec/frame)
Interlaced, each frame is      divided into 2 fields, 262.5 lines/field
20 lines reserved for control      information at the beginning of each fieldSo a maximum of 485       lines of visible data
Basics of Video
Analog video is represented      as a continuous (time varying) signal.
Digital video is represented      as a sequence of digital images.
    Types of Color Video Signals
Component video --      each primary is sent as a separate video signal.
The primaries can       either be RGB or a luminance-chrominance transformation of them (e.g.,       YIQ, YUV).
Best color       reproduction
Requires more       bandwidth and good synchronization of the three components
Composite video --      color (chrominance) and luminance signals are mixed into a single carrier      wave. Some interference between the two signals is inevitable.
S-Video (Separated      video, e.g., in S-VHS) -- a compromise between component analog video and      the composite video. It uses two lines, one for luminance and another for      composite chrominance signal.
    Analog Video
The following figures are from A.M. Tekalp, "Digital video processing", Prentice Hall PTR, 1995, NTSC.
NTSC Video
525 scan lines per frame, 30      frames per second (or be exact, 29.97 fps, 33.37 msec/frame)
Interlaced, each frame is      divided into 2 fields, 262.5 lines/field
20 lines reserved for control      information at the beginning of each field
So a maximum of 485       lines of visible data
Laserdisc and S-VHS       have actual resolution of ~420 lines
Ordinary TV -- ~320       lines
Each line takes 63.5      microseconds to scan. Horizontal retrace takes 10 microseconds (with 5      microseconds horizontal synch pulse embedded), so the active line time is      53.5 microseconds.
Digital Video Rasters
Color representation:
NTSC uses YIQ color       model.
composite = Y + I cos(Fsc       t) + Q sin(Fsc t), where Fsc is the frequency of color subcarrier
PAL Video
625 scan lines per frame, 25      frames per second (40 msec/frame)
Interlaced, each frame is      divided into 2 fields, 312.5 lines/field
Uses YUV color model
    Digital Video
Advantages:
Direct random access       --> good for nonlinear video editing
No problem for       repeated recording
No need for blanking       and sync pulse
Almost all digital video uses      component video
Chroma Subsampling
How to decimate for      chrominance?
4:4:4 --> No chroma      subsampling, each pixel has Y, Cr and Cb values.
4:2:2 --> Horizontally subsample Cr, Cb signals by a factor of 2.
4:1:1 --> Horizontally subsampled by a factor of 4.
4:2:0 --> Subsampled in both the horizontal and vertical dimensions by a factor of 2. Theoretically, the chroma pixel is positioned between the rows and columns as shown in the figure.
4:1:1 and 4:2:0 are mostly      used in JPEG and MPEG (see Chapter 4).
CCIR Standards for Digital Video
(CCIR -- Consultative Committee for International Radio)
                       CCIR 601       CCIR 601         CIF         QCIF
                        525/60         625/50
                         NTSC         PAL/SECAM
Luminance resolution   720 x 485      720 x 576     352 x 288    176 x 144
Chrominance resolut.   360 x 485      360 x 576     176 x 144     88 x 72
Color Subsampling        4:2:2          4:2:2         4:2:0        4:2:0
Fields/sec                60             50            30           30
Interlacing               Yes            Yes           No           No
CCIR 601 uses interlaced      scan, so each field only has half as much vertical resolution (e.g., 243      lines in NTSC). The CCIR 601 (NTSC) data rate is ~165 Mbps.
CIF (Common Intermediate      Format) -- an acceptable temporary standard
Approximately the VHS       quality
Uses progressive       (non-interlaced) scan
Uses NTSC frame rate,       and half the active lines of PAL signals --> To play on existing TVs,       PAL systems need to do frame rate conversion, and NTSC systems need to do       line-number conversion.
QCIF -- Quarter-CIF
ATSC Digital Television Standard
(ATSC -- Advanced Television Systems Committee) The ATSC Digital Television Standard was recommended to be adopted as the Advanced TV broadcasting standard by the FCC Advisory Committee on Advanced Television Service on November 28, 1995. It covers the standard for HDTV (High Definition TV).
Video Format
The video scanning formats supported by the ATSC Digital Television Standard are shown in the following table.
Vertical Lines
Horizontal   Pixels
Aspect Ratio
Picture Rate
1080
1920
16:9
60I 30P 24P
720
1280
16:9
60P 30P 24P
480
704
16:9 &   4:3
60I 60P 30P   24P
480
640
4:3
60I 60P 30P   24P
The aspect ratio for HDTV is      16:9 as opposed to 4:3 in NTSC, PAL, and SECAM. (A 33% increase in      horizontal dimension.)
In the picture rate column,      the "I" means interlaced scan, and the "P" means      progressive (non-interlaced) scan.
Both NTSC rates and integer      rates are supported (i.e., 60.00, 59.94, 30.00, 29.97, 24.00, and 23.98).
At 1920 x 1080, 60I (which      CBS and NBC have selected), there will be 1920 x 1080 x 30 = 62.2 millions      pixels per second. Considering 4:2:2 chroma subsampling, each pixel needs      16 bits to represent, the bit rate is 62.2 x 16 = 995 Mb/sec.
Homepage of the Advanced Television Systems Committee (ATSC)

Export anamorphic JPEG

Hello,
Another problem, i would like to know how to export anamorphic JPEG images?
When you export JPEG in AE, pixel aspect ratio have automatically the value 1, i would like to export one HDV frame 1440*1080 with a pixel aspect ratio of 1.33, is that possible?
Even if i set an output module template, i can't success?
Thanks in advance,
Fred

I can't see any preset resize settings in the output module that would give you that, but you could create a new output module template with the correct resize and have the script apply that.
If the problem is that this still doesn't tag the output with the correct aspect ratio, maybe you could have the script put the output comp in another comp with the correct pixel aspect and render it through that.

Export HD move to widescreen, is it possible?

I'm new to FCE. Used Premier Elements and others for years. I just edited a moved in 1080i HD and was able to create a dvd by sending the QuickTime movie version to iDVD.
Now I just want to create a file to keep as a separate movie. With Premier Elements on Windows and using DV, it was easy. Just create an uncompressed AVI and you keep good quality and universal editability. With FCE I have tried pretty much every export format and none produce a wide screen movie period. I've read through this forum and the only suggestion is to use Anamorpicizer which then requires that I buy QT Pro. (As an aside, I'm using FCE 3.0 on an Intel machine, so export to QT takes 25 hours for a 10 minute clip.)
I've tried the suggestion to create a DV sequence and copy my HD to that, still no wide screen QT file.
(My goal is to have a 'movie' clip I can use for future editing, easy viewing and conversion to iPod and other formats using iMovie which is a native app. I'm waiting for FCE 4.0 before upgrading, if it comes soon.)
Is there anyway to export widescreen from FCE? And is there any way to save it in MPEG2 for (inclusion on future DVDs without keeping all the HD source online) without having to buy a 3rd party codec?
thanks in advance.

So it looks like you want to export your finished movie into a format that can be edited by FCE in the future ... you've decided you don't want to keep your original clips and FCE Project file ...
Do File > Export > Using QuickTime Conversion
In the Save dialog box -
..... Select Format > QuickTime Movie
..... Select Use > Default Settings
Then click the Options button
In the Movie Settings window -
Select Video > Settings
..... Select Compression type > Apple Intermediate Codec
..... Select Compressor > Preset > HDV 1080i (you said you have a 1080i movie)
UNcheck "Prepare for Internet Streaming"
Click OK back to the Save dialog box
Give your movie a name, select the location to save, hit Save
This will give you a QT file encoded as Apple Intermediate Codec, and you will be able to import it back into FCE in the future when you want to do more editing.
If it were me, I would keep my original clips and FCE project file instead of doing what you are doing here.
As for your other questions, Anamorphicizer is a great little app but it's only needed when you have anamorphic DV material, which is not what you have here. FCE does not encode into MPEG2; that's done by iDVD, Compressor or other applications. If you want to output a video that you can re-edit in the future, you DON'T want to encode it into MPEG2.
You might find this article by Ken Stone of interest - Video to iPod
One final note - you really should upgrade to FCE 3.5. Version 3.0 will run on the Intel machines but not well. HDV takes a lot longer to export than DV, but 25 hours for a 10 min video is awful; it's probably because you're running FCE 3.0 on your Intel MBP. Version 3.5 is the universal binary version that was designed for the Intel Macs. How much RAM do you have in that MBP?

Captures but won't export Anamorphic

Hi..
I'm using FCP 4.5 in conjunction with a Sony Handycam. I'm shooting in the Cam's 16:9 aspect, and can successfully capture such clips, and edit them in FCP4.5, often in real time, even on a 1.42Ghz Mini!
However, when I export the edited clip using either "Current Settings" or NTSC Anamorphic, the resulting clip is still 720 x 480, not 800 x 450 as it should be!
FCP "knows" that the clip is Anamorphic. I use QT Pro to "fix" the clip back to the proper 16:9 ratio.
Is there something I'm missing here in my workflow which can make FCP just handle it once and be done with it?
thank you!
ray

You are operating under wrong assumptions. There is no such thing as DV 800x450
DV standard is 720x480
DV widescreen is 720x480 anamorphic
The pixel dimensions are the same. The difference is in the Pixel Aspect Ratio
Quicktime seems to ignore the anamorphic flag and so will not display anamorphic clips correctly. The workaround is to go into QT player and tell it that the clip is 16:9 anamorphic.
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x

Exporting anamorphic

Trying to export a DV anamorphic sequence, but it keeps coming out without black bars at top and bottom - so it stretches it.
My sequence settings are correct (I think):
See my FCP timeline Image Hosted by ImageShack.usview here.
I have tried exporting with "current settings" as well as chaning it to DV 48k Anamorphic. Also tried with Quicktime Conversions and specified size and said add padding if necessary - it added padding to the sides, this tells me it is simply not being recognized as anamorphic.
I just don't get it! I even successfully exported it "widescreen" (padding on top and bottom) last week.
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Message was edited by: jbal77

it keeps coming out without black bars at top and bottom...
It is supposed to do that.
I even successfully exported it "widescreen" (padding on top and bottom)...
That's not Anamorphic. What you want is called "letterboxing".
So to arrive at your goal, you need to make your Easy Setup NTSC DV Anamorphic and the Sequence setting needs to have Anamorphic turned off. Then it will letterbox in a 4:3 frame with your black bars at top and bottom.
What is the intended use for the end product?

FCP/FCE anamorphic to iDVD widescreen - A simple solution?

I have seen a lot of discussions about how hard it is to get anamorphic material from FCP/FCE into iDVD. There seem to be a few complex workarounds using third party software etc.
Today I suddenly came to think about a possible very simple solution.
1. Export to QuickTime from FCP/FCE
2. Open the clip in QuickTime Pro
3. Choose the Window menu and choose Show Movie Properties
4. Select the Video Track and click the Visual Settings tab
5. Uncheck Preserve Aspect Ratio
6. Change the width to 854 (DV-NTSC) or to 1024 (DV-PAL)
7. Save the clip and quit QuickTime
8. Open iDVD and start a new 16:9 Widescreen project
9. Import your modified QuickTime clip
10. Author and burn your DVD
Is it really this easy? Are there any downsides to doing it this way? The modified QuickTime clip's Movie Info in QuickTime says: Format: DV, 720 x 576 (1024 x 576)
I just tested this workflow, and the finished DVD looked fine.

I gave the usual dimensions for Standard Definition DV Anamorphic as an example. The actual dimensions for DV Anamorphic NTSC and PAL are: 720x480 and 720x576, but when stretched, the right width is 854 and 1024 as mentioned in my first post. The dimentions you are mentioning are for High Definition 1080i/p
If you are editing 720p, the dimentions are: 1280 × 720.
This might be of help:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CommonVideoResolutions.svg

Exporting Anamorphic PAL footage to After Effects.

Hi,
I am exporting my PAL footage to After Effects as DV-PAL Anamorphic. I have tried various compostion settings on After Effects including DV Widescreen but it still imports back into FCP at a different aspect ratio.
Does anyone know what settings I should use?
Thanks in advance,
Simon.

Hi,
Ok I just took a piece of footage out of FCP into AFX comp settings PAL DV/D1 Widescreen 720x576 Aspect ratio 1.42.
I out put from AFX using DV Settings for the render settings and Quicktime DV PAL 48KHz for the output module.
I brought the AFX clip back into FCP on top of the original and did a 50% vertical crop on the clip in the Upper channel they match perfectly!
Not sure if I've done anything different to you but it works for me . . I suppose there is a possibility if you are using any 3rd party filters on the footage it might munge it in someway, if so using the method I used to check conformity you might be able to nudge the clip back to perfect aspect ratio.

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For an academic assignment I have download some You Tube videos to place in a presentation, a couple of them are incorrect aspect ratio, i.e squashed and tall, I've imported them into FCP, then changed the "Settings" to Anamorphic 16:9, and the sequence changes in the Viewer to the correct aspect ratio, but when I export as a Quicktime Movie it goes back to it's squashed and tall 4:3 aspect ratio, am I missing something? Any ideas?

Hey m0xee,
I didn't actually claim it would work with your movie because it's hard to know for sure what the properties of your sequence are. That's how it works with DV NTSC widescreen movies.
IF your sequence is NTSC DV Widescreen. If its properties show 720x480 with the anamorphic checkbox ticked and compressor is DV NTSC. If you export Quicktime Movie with settings same as source...if all those things are true the movie will behave as I said.
However, that movie is not suitable for general distribution on the web because of its non-square pixels (and also because DV is not a good codec for web videos). For that purpose it should be changed to square pixel dimensions and a codec like H.264.
Tom

Exporting anamorphic sequence to Quicktime

I'm trying to export an anamorphic sequence to Quicktime to post online. As I understand it, Quicktime doesn't acknowledge the anamorphic flag on a video file, but I came across a workaround in this article ( http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75079 ) which suggests altering the video size upon exporting.
Problem is, when I follow the recommended procedure, the QT player window actually IS widescreen, but the video inside is not, making it pillarboxed (black columns on left and right). So it's back to the drawing board. Anybody have any suggestions or success at doing what I'm trying to do?

Try a custom size of 360 x 202, 180 x 101 etc. Works well, so it all the time without pillarboxing occurring. This is what I have been doing for HDV 1080/60 items.
(FWIW when 16:9 video is encoded for 4:3 playback [ with letterbox settings from the player without adding anything to the video itself] the resulting MPEG is 720 x 404, so these numbers are based on the same ratio. )
If this way does not work, try doing this by opening the item in QT then following the same steps.

Exporting anamorphic quicktime

Hi,
I am editing in FCP 4.5. The video was shot wide-screen 16:9. I captured correctly (I assume). My sequence settings are NTCS-CCIR 601/DV, 720x480. Anamorphic box is checked. Everything looks good - correct proportions.
But how do I export to QuickTime properly? I tried it with the Anamorphic box checked and un-checked. Both times the resulting QT was squeezed into a box. People were distorted (stretched) and the wide screen was lost. Please advise. I read the HELP section, but perhaps didn't understand it.
thanks,
Eve

I have temp music in the video now. i'm making the DVD so the client has a copy to look at (they asked for it, so why not), while the composer is working. BTW: the QT i make i really a "self-contained FCP movie") if that helps in your advice.
PS - I have the same problem when exporting a freeze frame (still frame) from FCP to use for whatever purposes...the widescreen gets squished. Tips?
I fully admit that even after reading the posts and info about 16:9, i don't understand it really, so i'd settle for just knowing the proper settings to export...i'll probably have the same problem when i print to tape (mini DV) at the END END of the project. So i'd better get on top of it now.
Many thanks for helping me with this issue. i feel a bit dense about this.
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How can I get an anamorph movie to widescreen in IDVD

Hi, I NEED URGENT HELP!
A friend of mine and I cut and created a movie on his PC with Premiere Pro 2.0. Now I need to create a high quality dvd from it but I can't get the anamorph data to play in widescreen on my IMac. neither in I Movie nor in IDVD. I tried and burned DVDs in both formats 4:3 and 16:9 but both times the film didn't convert to widescreen and on top the movies looked bad- really bad quality, even though the orignal data my friend gave me, is very high quality film resolution.
What do I need to do to convert the xxx.mov anamorph (16:9) into a widescreen IDVD?
My friend says the original material is: Mini DV, PAL 720x576 Pixel, anamorph (16:9)
Or in what form/size do I need the movies/data from him to make sure I can burn a widescreen dvd with it?
Please help!

I am not sure about SWF support in Acrobat 8.x, however, if it is supported, you will have to add it to the PDF after the PDF has been created. You can leave the space for it in your FrameMaker document and add it via the Mulimedia Tool.
I do know that SWF is fully supported in Acrobat 9.x, but in this case you will also have to add the SWF to the PDF after converting the FrameMaker document. To do this, marquee and area on the PDF using the Flash Tool; Tools > Multimedia > Flash Tool. You can also simply double click on the PDF with the Flash Tool. Support for SWF, and several other multimedia file types is much stronger in Acrobat 9.

Any way to export anamorphic SD QT that will play back 16:9?

I haven't posted for a while because FCS2 has been working great. However one thing has been nagging me for quite a while and I wonder if it's a gap in my FCP education. When I work in SD 16:9 projects (either DV NTSC or DV50 Easy Setup), I often export to QuickTime Movie as "self-contained" .mov's before dealing with clients about output formats. However, because these are now 16:9 anamorphic clips, I can never get QuickTime Player to play them back at the Desktop level in the right aspect ratio.
Is there any way to flag the QT so that the QT Player can play it back properly?
For instance, if the next step is making a DVD, the same QT Movie can be imported into DVD Studio Pro, and all I have to do is to identify the track as "16:9 letterbox" and it'll play back in DVDSP in correct aspect ratio. Am I correct in thinking that the QuickTime Player still doesn't allow me to do something this simple after all these years?

That is strange ... I just ran the test again. Heres the steps I tested.
First, I created a DV PAL anamorphic sequence in FCP 5.1.4 (QT 7.4.1)
Then I added a 10 second color matte to the sequence (Video Generators>Matte>Color)
Finally I exported the timeline in using 3 different methods:
1) Export >Quicktime Movie w/Current Settings, Self Contained
2) Export >Quicktime Movie w/Current Settings, Recompress All Frames, Self Contained
3) Export >Quicktime Conversion >>Quicktime Movie >>>DV PAL, and specifying specifically that the aspect ratio was 16:9
Results:
1) Movie played 4:3 in QT Player ... enabled "Conform aperture to: Clean" and it played 16:9
2) Movie played 4:3 in QT Player ... enabled "Conform aperture to: Clean" and it played 16:9
3) Movie played 16:9 in QT Player ... "Conform aperture to: Clean" was enabled already
So I've just tried to see if I can force it NOT to work...
4) Export >Quicktime Conversion >>Quicktime Movie >>>DV PAL, and specifying specifically that the aspect ratio was 4:3
Result:
4) Movie played 4:3 in QT Player ... "Conform aperture to: Clean" was enabled already.
So the only way I can seem to make this not work is if I go out of my way to tell QT that its NOT anamorphic and that it really is 4:3 ... then QT Player takes me at my word.
Odd that you're not seeing this. I wonder if its version specific?
Andy

Video export via component not widescreen and bad quality

I have a dvd ripped to a .mov file. Chose to keep maximum quality and resolution. Its over 6gb. Its widescreen/letterbox/16:9.
When i connect to my 42" hi def tv via component cable, the full widescreen is not shown, it zooms in and cuts off the sides. I have tried widescreen on/off on the phone, and the tv's aspect settings, but nothing works.
Anyone know why this is?
Also the quality is really bad.
Its the same if using airplay so suspect its the phone.
I am quite disappointed by this, i thought it would show the video as it is on the .mov file on the computer. Itunes plays it fine.
Would the ipad do the same as the phone, or output video properly as it's supposed to be?
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I found the issue but dont know how to fix it... I have 4 mp4 files of the high quality and widescreen format. I imported them into iMovie so I can export as one big file. When adding them to the project iMovie just reduces the clips quality and does not show them at widescreen and crops the left/right sides off so it can fit in the iMovie window. There is nothing in the movie properties to fix this.

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