Express 802.11n Heat Issue

I have been using an AirPort Extreme, and two AirPort Expresses (b/g's) since 2003. One of the Expresses died a week or so ago....RIP. It served me well.
I bought a new Express, 802.11n, and hooked it up... all is OK, but it runs extremely hot. The book says 94 degrees max which was the spec for the earlier b/g's.
I hooked up a type k thermocouple to it via a Omegaette HH303 digital thermometer and with the ambient temp at 85.7 f degrees it hovered at 112.9 f. It is on a book shelf with plenty of air space. My Extreme or my older Express doesn't run this hot although this time of year they really push the 94 f ceiling ....What's up??
As a quick and dirty countermeasure I attached a 3" DC 12v turbo whisper fan to it (ugly, ugly) and I am able to keep the temp around 92 f ~ 93.8 f.
The book says that the "n's" are bigger, stronger, faster, more powerful,,,,, So, do the "n's" make more heat???
I live in Baja California Sur, (Mexico), and for the next couple of months the temps will run between 85 ~ 90 f then the temp drops back down to mid 70's until next July.
I think that the AirPorts dislike heat,,, they look durn good, but can not adequately dissipate heat. And don't say I should run Air Conditioning,,, I should, but can't here... My stereo's and TV don't mind the temps.... heck my car DVD/radio gets hotter and still works...
So now I have to "fan cool" my new AirPort Express along with monthly disassemblies to clean the scroll ball on my "Mighty Mouse".... thanks Apple..
Does anybody notice more heat from their n-Expresses???

Silent, had similar issues, but finally got it to work. Here's my settings:
On Extreme Base Station WPS tab, select WPS Main for WDS mode, check "allow wireless client", put in the Airport ID of your WDS remote (Express). Under Wireless Tab select "Participate in WDS network" for Wireless mode.
On the Express under WDS tab select "WDS remote" for WDS mode, check "allow wireless client", under WDS main put in the ID of the Extreme Base Station. Under Wireless tab select "Participate in a WDS network"
Also is important to reset everything then start up the utility program. I tried copying the settings from my old base station and that did not work. Hope this helps.

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