Extended Rebate Manual Payments

Hello
I am configuring extended rebate processing for my company. We need to use extended rebate processing particularly for the variable key functionality. i have noticed that manual payments are no longer active for extended agreements, but OSS NOTE 1156159 indicates perhaps that the correction will activate manual payments. We do not see this behavior after implementing the correction specified.
Is it possible to create a manual payment when using extended rebates? If so can anyone provide details of how to do so.
If i have a rebate which is volume dependent...say 20,000 items and customer buys 19900 items and sales decides to pay the rebate based on what has been accrued, how can i accomplish this with an extneded agreement?
If anyone has implemented this particular note, what functionality does it provide?

Hello Thomas,
within Extended rebate processing, the manul settlement by VBO2 is not allowed.
Settlement can only be performed by transaction RBT_ENH_VB7.
The purpose of note 1156159 is to allow the modification of payment amount in the credit memo created by periodic partial settlement (by run RBT_ENH_VB7), if it is not transferred to accounting.
Best regards,
Ivano.

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