Extending EBS 12 Forms using ADF (NO CUSTOMIZATION)

We want to execute some custom logic in Oracle EBS R12. One option is use to CUSTOM.PLL. However, we were told that gradually Oracle forms are moving towards ADF. Does ADF offer better architecture in incorporating custom business logic? Based on the quick read of ADF guide, I came across Business Component layer and find it promising. Wondering if ADF does the trick and enables users to extend Oracle Forms without customizing them.
Remember, we don't want to customize the application.
Thanks!
PS. We have looked into business events, BPEL and the whole nine yards. They are not options at this time.

What does it mean when Oracle says that Oracle Forms are moving to ADF forms?Oracle is not saying that Forms is moving to ADF, what we are saying is that the Fusion generation of applications are going to be developed with ADF instead of Forms.
I look at ADF as an architecture available in JDeveloper to build forms. Isn't that the case?ADF is a framework based on the MVC architecture that is uses to build applications. Those are Java applications and not FMB/FMX files.
how would you perform say some form customizations if customers are interested in changing the Oracle provided forms in EBS?I would use Oracle Forms for that - this is the only tool that can open and modify fmb files.

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