External Party to Logical System Integration

My scenario is as follows
External Party --> XI --> ECC. XML coming into XI and data posted in ECC using IDoc.
We have several different external parties that we need to integrate with but they all will send us the data in the same XML format and they do not have any different mapping requirements. So we can use the same design objects for all of them. However, they need to be setup as separate logical systems in ECC as we have different teams that support error handling for each of the external parties.
I dont have any need to use BPM as my mapping is fairly straightforward. I have setup a party in XI for each external party.
My problem is how can I have XI pass IDoc to different logical systems based on the external party?
I have tried playing with the adapter specific attributes on the sender service and giving logical system there but to no avail. How can I accomplish this without creating the parties as business systems in SLD as there are quite a few of them? Or is it the only way?
Any help will be greatly appreciated and rewarded.
Regards
Haseeb

Hi,
Is there some way that the source payload allows you to distinguish which system it comes from and what the logical system name has to be ?
If yes, in the Idoc control record, populate the values of SNDPRN and SNDPRT with the Sender PartnerName and Sender Partner Type ( Sender Partner Name will be the logical system name ) on the basis of this source condition and in the Idoc adapter select option "Take Sender from payload"
Regards
Bhavesh

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You only need logical systems if the other end is a different system from each other.
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Hello,
I feel that the RFC destination linked to the port is the key here.
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and blog ..
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R/3:
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Client: 200
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......Port: SAPD01
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......Adapter-specific identifiers: Logical system XI_ABC
...Receiver Agreement
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......Service: BS_All_Data
......Receiver: PP_SAPSYS_ABC
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I am shalini shah.
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/wiki?path=/display/profile/2007/05/11/fileToIDOC&
File To IDOC - Part2 (Configuration):
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I could not clearly understand your question .But i think you want to know the roles of the Integration server and Application system.I would like to share some thing on their difference .Hope this will clearify you.
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