'External process-0130' Inspection in QM?

Hi Team,
Requesting your valuable help for below scenario.
Step 1: Receiving the material(M1) in GR stage from 'vendor1' - 01 inspection active with one operation(op10-Visual inspection) in Inspection plan .If material ok it should be sent to External process.
Step 2 : Sending received '(M1) material' to External processing to 'vendor2' through P.O
Step3: Recieving the 'processed material' M1 material and Inspection
As per SCN links, I under stood that '0130 inspection type' to be used.
Q1:Prefered tick mark for 0130 / 01 ?
Q2:Where 0130 insp.type should assigned? is it required to assign in any
Q3:If preferd tick put to one of 01/ 0130 inspection type-Automatic insp.lot for 2nd insp.type will not be created?
Help me out with the SAP-QM-best practice
Regards,
Karthik(Trainee-SAP-QM)

Hi Sai,
Nitin has correctly suggested the best standard SAP approach you should adopt. In case if only activating "01" is acceptable to business it will solve your case. It's easy to implement, maintain, error-free and scalable.
Paralelly (if at all its required..), you can explore further on the custom approach like below -
a) Activate insp type "01" and "0130" for the relevant materials. Do not flag any insp types as "PreferredInsTyp".
b) Create a custom table to maintain a combination like Material + Insp Type + Insp Plan. Example below -
M1 - 01 - IP01
M1 - 0103 - IP02
c) During Goods Receipt, user exit/BADI should if the PO is Subcontractor PO (Item Cat L) or not. If Subcontracting PO, then it should allocate the insp type 0130, else it should assign insp type "01" for all normal PO, or Sch Agr, etc.
d) It should first validate how many inspection plans for the concerned material is 'Active" for the usage "5". Now check form the Z-table if for the same material, Z-table has one active insp plan added. Then allocate the insp plan to the inspection lot. There can be a chance that there are more than one active insp plans for same usage available and in Z-table a plan is available which is no more active, then the program should not allocate any insp plans, and the inspection lot status should be "CRTD". Same is the case if there is no active inspection plan available and added in Z-table for the material.
e) In case if you wish to have one more round of check at "Vendor Level" on the selection of inspection plan, you can extend this Z-table with Vendor too!!. Then the Ztable will look like below -
M1 - 01 - V1 - IP01
M1 - 01 - V2 - IP01
M1 - 0130 - V1 - IP03
M2 - 0130 - V2 - IP04...
Please do not adopt a custom approach, just to try out fancy things as they are difficult to implement, complexity gets higher, lots of codings involved, lots of testing required and difficult to maintain in the long run. Moreover there should be a significant business benefit in it and everyone should be aligned to take a decision to go with such custom approach. These are just my thoughts!!
Thanks,
Arijit
Message was edited by: Arijit Banerjee

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Hi,
Please any one can help me regarding this badi implementation and explain the process flow of the scenario.
I have 5 operations and operation 3 is external processing
1.   once purchase order is created which material is supplied to vendor.
2.   once external processing operation is done for which material the GR is done to recieve from vendor.
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Hi Ritesh,
              Thank you for the reply, But My question is if the header material is done GR wat about the inventory levels the same material shows work in progress and again it is showed in inventory. correct me if i am wrong.
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