Confirmation of external processing operation

Dear All,
I would like to know is it possible to prevent the confirmation of an external processing operation (pp02 control key) until the Purchase Order associated with that operation is received (GR) ?
I checked the forum for this, but was unable to find any inputs & also in customizing where i find only settings for confirmation of orders & not at operation level.
Hope my problem is clear, await inputs.
Regards,
Vivek

Yes,
it can be done but no through std SAP setting...but with user exit.
Check this exit
CONFPP03 PP order conf.: Cust. specific check after op. selection
CONFPP04 PP order conf.: Customer specific input checks
CONFPP05 PP order conf.: Customer specific enhancements.

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Dear Experts,
I am uing externally procesed operation. The process is working well.
But when I do the GR of the externalluy processed oepration, I want the operation to be confirmed automatically. Is this possible?
Please advice.
Regards
Tom

Hi,
I can think of 1 option.
Create a Z program using BAPI - BAPI_PRODORDCONF_CREATE_ACT & in this program check if control key is PP02 & the operation has received the status EODL. If it has the status then trigger the BAPI to post activity confirmation.
You can schedule the Z program to run periodically in background say every night or every hour or as per your business need.
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As part of production process, most of the operations would be processed internally in the manufacturing plant and some of the operations would be
performed by vendor at his own premises (outside the manufacturing plant). Material will be called as WIP (work in process) material if it completes some of the operations (two operations completed out of four operations) in production process without forming its final product shape
WIP (work in process) material will be sent out to vendor against externally processed operation in production order. We’ve a business requirement to track the WIP (Work in Process, No inventory yet in system) material status details such as when was the WIP material shipped out to service provider by purchasing department or returned back to production floor from stores after receiving from vendor for externally processed operation in production
order
The scenario is explained below and the process in SAP would be as follows.
1. Production order would be created for
respective header material (semi-finished/finished) with required quantity with five operations to be processed, for example: OP10 (turning), OP20 (drilling), OP30 (milling), OP40 (shaping), OP50 (powder coating). OP10, OP20, OP40, OP50. would be processed internally in the shop floor of the manufacturing plant
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For OP30 Milling (Externally processed operation), from PP module perspective, we would be maintaining a control key which supports external
processing in the Operation 30 (OP30, external processed operation - An externally processed operation is not carried out within own organization, but is assigned to a vendor, who then does the work) with relevant information such as material group, purchase group, description of operation, cost element to track costs in the production order.
When the respective production order is saved, system creates a purchase requisition for external processed operation 30. We can see
the number of the purchase requisition on the external processing tab of operation details screen of OP30 in SAP Production order.
Purchasing department generates a purchase order against the automatic purchase requisition generated in production order, which informs the
vendor which service is required.
With reference to the purchase order – service oriented, the WIP material (no material code exists in SAP) is sent out to vendor. After the material has been processed, the vendor delivers the material back to manufacturing plant. When a goods receipt against purchase order is posted at manufacturing plant, the system displays the received quantity on the external processing tab of operation details screen of the operation - OP30 in production order and also displays in order information system reports. It also possible to track the cost incurred for external operation. However, Goods receipt against production order does not cause an increase in the quantity and value of the warehouse stock of header material of production order.
The above mentioned process is not a subcontracting process - where in we send raw materials and receive semi-finished/finished materials from vendor
3. The respective partially processed part (WIP) received from vendor is sent to shop floor to complete the rest of the process
in OP40 (shaping) and OP50 (powder coating).
4. After OP50, the respective header material (semi-finished/finished) of the production order will be received (goods
receipt against production order) as inventory in respective storage location.
With reference to the above process, we can track the status of receipt of WIP material from vendor after processing at his premises;
however, we can’t track when WIP material ( after completing processing at OP20) was sent out to vendor for external processing by purchasing department and when WIP material was returned back to production shop floor for further processing at OP40 after receiving from vendor by stores.
Please provide your feedback for the possibility to track the details of WIP material (no material code exists in SAP system) sent out to
vendor and received back at shop floor from stores for external processed operation of production order
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Regards,
Rajesh

Hi Rajesh,
Process what ever you have explained is the right process with respective to operation wise subcontracting as per SAP Best practice. As you rihtly said in operation wise subcontracting PR is created with any material code. Once PR is created after PO and GR actual cost of that particular operation will be seen on the order. I believe sub contact operation after GR can be confirmed through confirmation transactions. Since it is subcontract operation specfic to peration seperate inventory is not tracked instead cost is reflecting directly on order
If you to want to track the inventory of the intermdiate product then you need to have a seperate material code for intermediate product (Eg A) received after second operation and do seperate subcontacting PR for seperate new material (Eg B) by issuing the intermediate material (Eg. A). Upon receivng GR for PO inventory will be updated for the new material (Eg B).This new material can be issued to your final product which has operation 0040 and 0050. Here two different material codes will be required.
Else follow the suggestion given by expert Caetano.
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2. Second issue is, some times even if we ordered 10 pcs, subcontractor can only send 5pcs and 5 pcs afterwards.. but every month end FI dept tries to close the books, so how can we deal with this issue if i receive 5 pcs in this month and remaining 5 in the next month...
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Dear Srikanth,
Please note the following:
1. First we receive GR against Pur.Order, once its done, the Raw's which we sent to Sub.Contractor will be backflushed.. but we dont receive the Finihsed part until we confirm the production order.... there is a Gap between this two processes.. so how can we make sure that there wont be any differences in terms of FI..
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b) After you receive the material back from vendor, run the T.Code MB01, which will cause Mvt. Types 543 and 101. Now the material has come back to your Production order, but not in Storage location stock.
c) Then carry on normal CO11N and MB31 for your production order.
Hope this will solve your problem.
Revert back if you still have any question.
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When an operation is defined as externally processed, once the production order (from a planned order generated via MRP) is created, the purchase requisition for that operation is automatically generated. My question is if it is possible to generate the purchase requisition before generating the production order, I mean, with the planned order.
Although this external operation is defined in the routing, the planned order does not show it and it means that the purchase requisition is not generated.
In our scenario we want to convert the production orders as late as possible to have automatic changes in BOM, but if we do not convert the planned orders to production orders, we won’t have this purchase requisitions.
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No, it's not possible to generate the purchase requisition for an externally processed operation before the creation of the production order. The planned order routing is only exploded for scheduling and capacity requirements calculation and an operation is not actually created.
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Dear Experts,
I am setting up "externally processed operation". I have created the purchase info record & the control key is PP02. When I release the production order, I get the following error.
Material class differs from material class from info record
Message no. 06354
Diagnosis
The material class or material group of the info record differs from that of the item.
Procedure
Check the material class or material group entered, or the info record number.
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Tom

why don't you use PM02 key?
an operation can only be processed externally if its control key allows or prescribes external processing
just in case: since an external operation has to be sent to a different company, additional data needs to be maintained on the 'External processing' tab page. You can maintain the data in the routing or in the production order
you said that "I have also maintained the same class in the material (Class type 001) & purchase info record (Claas Type: 057)" - what is the 057??

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how to inspect external process operation which are given for subcontracting, how to reject the operation which was done by subcontractiong
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Dear Raj,
Inspection of external process is done in the same way as of internal one.
Please check the following:
1. You must make sure that the operation control key in the production order specifies external processing.
2. You must activate a goods receipt inspection for the operations to be processed externally by:
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I want to perform end-to-end cycle for externally processed material. Please provide link or document having step-by-step guideline.
I got following error:
I have performed following steps:
1) In the routing control key maintained which is externally processed (PP02)
2) Purchase Info record (ME11) maintained with 'Subcontracting' item category
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Purchase Info record is created with 057 class default. The same class is not available under material classification.

Raja Sekhar.S wrote:
Hi,
>
> In external Processing
>
> you will not create Production order you have to Create purchase order for the material
>
> In this case you will create Purchase order on the material which you would receive but you will be sending different semi finished material. (because you will be sending one material and after the operation it will convert to other form)
> you should create separate BOM for the material which you will be receiving after external operation
> You have to create work center with Control key=PP02
> with 521 movement type you can send the material to vendor
>
>
> Regards,
> Raj
Hi typing error
Actually movement should me 541 instead of 521
regards,
Raj

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We have created one control key (ZP01) T code OP67.
In the customisation (OP67) for "External processing" selection field we select "X" i.e. "Internal processed operation / Extarnal processing possible.
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If this field is with "X", then what is the proceedure to create the purchase requisition for external operation.
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Hello Brahmankar,
Thanks for your prompt detail reply.
As per your suggestion already we have that setting for another controll key (PP02)
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Now my requirement is instead of "+" I made it "X" i.e. Internal processed operation / External processing possible. In this case system is not generating purchase requisition after production order release.
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1.create an purchase info record. (type:subcontracting, with material group, but not material ID)
2.Maintan external processing data in external operation where external processing happens.(control key: pp02, external processing data: info record, purchase org. net price, cost element etc.)
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I try to set routing with External processing.
I have 2 questions.
I would really appreciate you, if you could answer my questions.
I still have not understood the relationship between "Control key" and "Purchase Order"
The routing is like below
10 self manufacturing
20 External Processing with the control key is pp02
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In case I set "+" (Externally processed operation) for "External Processing" in "pp02", the Purchase Requisition will be created.
However in case I set "X" (Internally processed operation / Externally processed operation) for "External Processing" in "pp02", the Purchase Requisition will not be created.
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