External xmp file for JPEG

Hi,
Is there any possibility to save develop settings for JPEG file into external XMP file - not inside JPEG?
It is confusing for all backup software. Backup system have to transfer all modified JPEG files - not lightweight xmp files. Moreover, modification date of original JPEG file changes. I would like to have all my original JPEG files untouched as RAW files.
Thanks for suggestions
Sebastian

ksebman wrote:
My backup software transfers files through the Internet. So if I make small changes to hundreds of files, I have to transfer all JPEGs which are relatively huge. It takes a long time. External xmp file would be better because of its textual nature and size. Moreover I would like to have original files, not modified by any software (even if image data is untouched). I do like the way how RAW files are handled - no modifications at all.
I know, there are people who like having metadata in JPEG files because they use other applications. Searching through the Internet I found that there is a lot of people who decide not to use LR from that reason (modified original JPEG file). They set read-only attribute for all JPEGs to prevent this behavior.
It's really inconvenient - possibility to save external XMP file as in RAW files would be very helpful.
Best Regards
Sebastian
You do not need to back up all those JPEGs after each change. Back them up once at the start, and then back up the lrcat file (maybe zipped) routinely. This means both the original image data and all your editing work are backed up, and you could reconstruct your picture collection perfectly from your backup. The sidecar-based backup scheme would mean that all your work wouldn't be backed up (or you'd be forced to avoid a range of Lightroom features).
It's a wrong-headed reason to avoid LR. XMP is not written into proprietary raw files because Adobe consider it too risky. With JPEGs, it isn't - and if you are worried, just backup a virgin JPEG immediately after importing them.
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