File Vault Issue

On an older iMac G4, File Vault was accidentally turned on by one user. Now, when trying to turn file vault off, an "error in copying" message consistently appears. I thought perhaps the problem was insufficient free space, but the individual uers's folder shows as having zero bytes (although the parent User folder shows 10.5 GB) The drive itself has approximately 22GB of free space, so I don't think that's the real issue here. I'd appreciate any other suggestions.

Hi James,
You may need 2 to 5 times as much free space as that Home folder requires to open it.
Mac OS X 10.3, 10.4: FileVault - How to verify or repair a home directory image ...
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2631?viewlocale=en_US

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File Vault issues. How can I turn it off?

After reading all about the issues people have been having with File Vault and because the constant encrypting-decrypting is slowing down my computer, I decided to turn File Vault off.
There's just one problem. I can't. Every time I try to turn off File Vault, the computer logs off, starts the operation, then I get the following error message:
"An error occurred during decryption ( An error occurred during copying ), FileVault will be turned on for this home folder and the home folder will still be encrypted."
In seeing explanations in other discussions regarding File Vault, the first thing I noticed was that I may not have had enough space to do the decryption, so I got an external hard drive, copied the contents of each of the folders inside my encrypted hard drive to the external drive (thus decrypting them), then deleted them from the internal hard drive. Then I shut the computer down to allow File Vault to re-claim the disk space. I was ultimately able to bring the free space on my hard drive to about 195 GB, with only about 35 GB in use. I continued to get the error.
Next, I repaired permissions, then verified the disk. I found a volume structure error which could not be repaired by Disk Utility, but I had Disk Warrior, which had no problem repairing it. Unfortunately, I still get the error when trying to turn File Vault off.
At this point, it is pretty safe to assume that the initial Volume Structure error caused the File Vault decryption error, and repairing it will not fix the issue. From continued reading, it would seem the next course of action is to completely back up my home folder, install the OS fresh, then manually import the data. Is there an easy way to do this? I have a lot of installed applications and settings that I don't want to go through the trouble of re-installing and re-setting.
Would it work if I set up a new user account, manually migrated the data copied to the external drive, tested to see if the new user account was working, then deleted the encrypted one?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Would it work if I set up a new user account, manually migrated the data copied to the external drive, tested to see if the new user account was working, then deleted the encrypted one
I think that's worth trying first - you could always fall back on the OS erase and install if it doesn't work out.
I would do a GetInfo on the external drive and check the Ignore Ownership box at the bottom, in order to avoid any permission problems when copying back.

File Vault issues

When we try to log in we receive a message that says " we cannot log in because file vault will not allow it, does anyone have a clue what this means?

Did you activate FileVault on your machine? You would have done so in System Preferences -> Security -> Filevault and entered a master password.
Here are some Apple help articles about Filevault:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/8727.html
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/8739.html
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.6/en/8738.html
If you have it turned on, follow the directions in the last article on how to turn it off.

File Vault Issue with Migration Assistant

I've just spent 24hrs sorting out the mess this process left. Migrated - apparently successfully - my file vault protected home folder / user account from my old G4 466MHz 30Gb machine running 10.3.8. Everything ran perfectly until I tried to import my 30Gb iTunes library from a separate hard drive. A screen popped up telling me I only had 10Gb of space available in my home folder, whereas the Mac HD showed 580Gb available. Spoke to Applecare, who advised me to switch off file vault and then turn it on again. Did this, but when I switched it off it mashed a lot of data. Address book info vanished, Mail Boxes vanished, Safari bookmarks vanished, then Mail would not run at all. Nightmare. The chap at Applecare said File Vault is more trouble than it's worth. All sorted by creating a new admin account on the machine and re-loading from backups. My question is this; File vault retrieves unused disk space in the home folder at shutdown. How important is this? I thought it kept the machine running nice and smoothly. If I leave it switched off, will I experience speed loss over time?
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24" iMac Mac OS X (10.4.10) 750Mb / 2.3GHz / 2.5Gb RAM

I've just spent 24hrs sorting out the mess this process left. Migrated - apparently successfully - my file vault protected home folder / user account from my old G4 466MHz 30Gb machine running 10.3.8. Everything ran perfectly until I tried to import my 30Gb iTunes library from a separate hard drive. A screen popped up telling me I only had 10Gb of space available in my home folder, whereas the Mac HD showed 580Gb available. Spoke to Applecare, who advised me to switch off file vault and then turn it on again. Did this, but when I switched it off it mashed a lot of data. Address book info vanished, Mail Boxes vanished, Safari bookmarks vanished, then Mail would not run at all. Nightmare. The chap at Applecare said File Vault is more trouble than it's worth. All sorted by creating a new admin account on the machine and re-loading from backups. My question is this; File vault retrieves unused disk space in the home folder at shutdown. How important is this? I thought it kept the machine running nice and smoothly. If I leave it switched off, will I experience speed loss over time?
24" iMac Mac OS X (10.4.10) 750Mb / 2.3GHz / 2.5Gb RAM
24" iMac Mac OS X (10.4.10) 750Mb / 2.3GHz / 2.5Gb RAM

Turning off File Vault issue...

I have file vault enabled on a macbook, and can't turn it off. On the user, there are only 8 GB free space, yet the startup drive has 90 GB free space. When I try to turn off file vault, I get an error that I eed an additional 25 GB free space?
How do I get around this?
Thanks

Update Leopard to 10.5.3. I must warn you that there are numerous bugs in it, but it may or may not happen to you.

Recovering File Vault Data from Back-up

Hello wonderful Apple people:
My hard disk crashed this weekend and I had it replaced (same day service) at the Apple store. I had my computer backed-up on a Maxtor External Hard Drive using their Retrospect software. I thought I was all set, however...
I'm having trouble restoring my data due to what I think are security issues. I had File Vault turned on for my computer (and old hard drive). I have not been able to restore using Retrospect because it wants the back-up sets that were on the old harddrive and doesn't seem to be able to rebuild them. I was able to mount the back-up and transfer all of the data, however I could not log-in with my old user name. I put my password in and it shook it's head at me, until I got to the master password, then it would let me change the password and log in to the abysmal Blue Screen. My back-up is also bootable and when I try to login there, it doens't recognize my password, I reset the password and I get the darned Blue Screen. I can see the files on the External drive and on the new hard drive, but... no accress
I reset my computer in safe mode and established a new user. Now I can log in, use all the applications, but not access any files. The files are locked under the old user name and when I log in under the old user name I get the Blue Screen. I don't know if it is File Vault issue or a missing file somewhere.
The sad story here is that my dissertation is due in three weeks. I have most of what I need backed up in other places, but my actual data is in the files that I can't access.
Oh, one other thing to take into consideration...my combo drive doesn't work so using the Install disk is not an option.
Any help would be appreciated. I havent found this issue yet on the boards.
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Since you're backing up to an external drive...IMHO Retrospect is overkill. Retrospect's strength is that you can make multiple copies of a file. In other words, you can recover a version of a file a few changes back. You can make these backups across sets of backup media, so that only your most recent backup needs to be on-site. Also, you can easily automate backups. If you don't need multiple copies of files, and you're not storing backup media off-site, and you can survive without automation, diskutility can clone your HD as often as you need/remember to do it. SuperDuper can aotomate this. Again. Retrospect is a good app, but it requires careful planning and implementation.
So there's my rant.l Clone your HD to an external as often as you need/remember and but a second external to alternate backups and keep off-site if that's necessary or desired for your particular situation. Use retrospect if you need its extra functionality.
Glad you had a good backup to rely on.
Jeff

Is there an issue using file vault 2 on a Mac fusion drive

is there an issue using file vault 2 on a Mac fusion drive

I'm using that configuration and it works for me. There have been some reports of kernel panics with FileVault and SSD's. The cause is unknown. Chances are you'll be fine, but make good backups.

Recovery HD partition disappears when I install Mavericks. File Vault 2 can't be turned on.

Hi folks,
I've run into this issue and repeated internet searches don't turn up anyone else having the same problem.
Until a couple of days ago, I've had the most recent version of Mountain Lion installed with File Vault 2 turned on. Everything has been fine.
I did a clean install of Mavericks, and everything went fine with the install. During the post-install set up, I get a window saying that I used to have FV2 turned on, and that to do so again requires me turning it on in System Preferences. So I try to do that, but then I get a message saying that "some disk formats do not support the recovery partion that needs to be created...".
So I look (using both diskutil list and enabling the debug menu in Disk Utility) and see that the Recovery HD is gone. I don't know how to recreate it and don't understand the command line partitioning well enough to try it, so I try again with Mavericks, doing it the long way:
I do a clean install of Lion.
Boot up into Lion, and verify that the Recovery HD partition was created. It was.
Boot up from the Mavericks bootable USB I made, erase just the main partition I intend to install Mavericks on (again, I see Recovery HD exists).
Install Mavericks.
Boot up from the internal HD Mavericks, get the same note about turning on FV2 manually, and try to do so.
It fails again. I use diskutil and Disk Utility with the debug menu, and sure enough Recovery HD is gone and I cannot turn on FV2.
Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? I feel like this would be a more widely discussed issue if this were a pure Mavericks issue. But Apple is not giving us a lot of support for doing clean installs (all instructions I find are on tech nerd blogs), so I'm lost about where to begin.
Thanks for your help.
It is Thu Oct 24 08:32:28 MDT 2013.
< Thu 8:32am ~ > diskutil list
/dev/disk0
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *500.1 GB   disk0
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1
   2:                  Apple_HFS Tesla                   499.2 GB   disk0s2

FWIW, I did a clean install of Mavericks with a bootable USB drive, which I created following the instructions in this link:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/10/22/perform-clean-install-os-x-mavericks/
The short method did not work. I succeeded with the longer method.
Mavericks installed without a hitch, after which I spent hours customizing settings, clean installing applications and restoring data from my prior Mountain Lion backup. No problems at all, just very time consuming.
However, I could not activate "Find my Mac" because the installer had not created a a Recovery HD. I trawled the forums and was discouraged by the apparent complexity of creating one.
This is what I did, which worked perfectly and required very little attention. It is almost automatic, fail proof and done in under an hour (with a fast internet connection to download Mavericks at just over 5GB).
1.- Back up the system. Better still, clone your system to an external HD using Carbon Copy Cloner.
2.- Download Mavericks from the App Store.
3.- It will warn you that you already have 10.9 installed. Download anyway.
4.- When it finishes downloading you'll get a window prompting you to install. Confirm.
5.- Enter your user password when prompted.
6.- Go for a walk. In about 45 min your system will have restarted Mavericks and all your settings, applications and data will be there.
7.- Check that you now have a Recovery HD by restarting the system, holding the Option key down when you hear the startup gong. You'll (hopefully) see the system HD and the Recovery HD (10.9).
Hope this will help someone.

Time Machine and File Vault

Does Time Machine work with File Vault? If it does it's no obvious to me how to find a backed-up file. I'd like to turn off File Vault, but that's another issue entirely. I'd have to remove a ton of stuff in order to turn off File Vault.

TM works with filevault but not well.
see this link
http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2007111404402514&query=time%2Bmachi ne%2Bfile%2Bvault

Time Machine and File Vault problems

Hi,
Since I converted to Mac more than a year ago, I turned my file vault on (although I learned in the meantime that it is not actually necessary....)
I now recently bought the time Capsule and found out that the Time Machine doesn't go well with the File Vault turned on. It does back up the home folder only when logged out and I don't get the hourly backups for single files either.
I then tried to turn File Vault off, but get the error message that I haven't got enough space on my hard disk (which I have). This message led me to this article here: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1974
I am really not an expert and not too confident to play around with accounts, backups and so on, so I really don't want to go down the described route.
For me, it looks like a bug in OS X, I should be able to turn File Vault off with the click of a button. Also, why is the File Vault / Time Machine conflict nowhere mentioned ? I was playing round with TM to recover a single file, but this wasn't possible, that's why I went to explore the issue further...
I now just want to turn off File Vault and finally want to use my TC normally.
Who can help ?
Message was edited by: Mike201071

....so, it seems to work now.
I did eventually go through the routine of backing up my home folder manually on the TC, then I created a new account, copied everything back, deleted the old account, and so on, as described in the link above.
I did not turn on the File Vault, activated TM and backed the whole lot up via Ethernet, switched back to wireless and TM seems to do the trick now.
I have now access to single folders and files when I go back in time in TM, instead of the whole backup only.
This seems to be the only way TM & TC are working properly, why is this conflict between File Vault and TM nowhere mentioned ?

Are my File Vault encrypted files backed up with Time Machine still useful?

The background:
My iMac G5 crashed. It all started one and a half years ago when my screen popped and the frequent hard shutdowns pobably damaged my HDD (the one elegant solution Windows have is the Windows button: press + 'u' + return = proper shutdown). After that episode I bought an external drive and started a Time Machine backup routine. What I did not realize, was the issues surrounding the use of TM with a File Vault encrypted system. In 2007 when I bought my G5, I poked around, getting myself familiarized in Mac OS X and found this thing called File Vault. It looked like something useful and I started using it. Later I upgraded my OS and after my screen problem, decided to make use of Time Machine. The one problem with Mac OS X is the ease of use. It's so easy that Apple probably cannot foresee all the dumb things we users are going to do with it, including a warning to first time TM users who have their system already encrypted with FV. Now, after searching the forums, I see the problems and the warnings. If someone use TM and then decide to use FV, a warning pops up, but not the other way around! At least, I never saw it coming. If there is such a warning, I probably did not read it - as I say, it all happens so easy and work so well, it's easy to use a Mac without reading the instructions. Yes, I did some dumb things, but that's probably because I'm not so dumb; too relaxed, yes. At least, so it seems to me : )
My problem:
Two weeks ago, my G5 suddenly started giving problems. Out of the blue I couldn't open Adobe Bridge. At first I thought it was a software problem and tried re-installing Bridge and searched the Adobe forums for a solution. After a long struggle trying different solutions, I eventually booted with my install disk and with Disk Utility found that there is a problem with my internal HDD. Only then it dawned on me that my problem is far more serious than a software problem but by then it was too late. I couldn't repair the HDD with DU and got an instruction to restore my system with a backup. No problem! I hooked up my external HD and pressed the button. The restoration took over 12 hours to complete. That in itself showed my that I have a big problem, but I did not dare interrupt the process. In the end I got a window with a 'Restart System' button. All I got from that was a white screen with a spinning wheel and that's where I am now. Needless to say, my G5 is now getting repaired.
My solution:
I have to keep going so I used my savings to buy another Mac. I have my backups, so I'll just do a Migration and keep working. Or so I thought. When I tried it, it obviously failed because I sit with encrypted backups that would only restore to the original machine - which crashed! After reading about it on the forums, it dawned on me that it is, most probably, a futile exercise. My backups are, most probably, no backups at all, because I also did not realize that I had to 'log out' of my FV to get TM to properly backup my files! In never dawned on me that I should log out! I have one machine at home and have no particular reason to log out at all!
My question:
Am I wasting my time with the 'backups' I have? Should I wait for my G5 to get back from the shop and see if they are useful, of should I just move on and try to live the rest of my life without all the electronic data I lost?

Gorrelduik wrote:
But they missed one situation: if Time Machine is set up, but auto backups are turned OFF, there's no message. If you turn it back on, there's no message then, either.
. . . and that's exactly my MO! I still don't have auto backup turned on. If it's better to use auto backup I'll do it, but to my mind it's better not to have both my computer and my backup disk on all the time. What happens when there is a power failure or lightning strike and both are on and both get damaged? My MO is to make a manual backup once a day and then put the external HDD away.
That's one of the reasons not to rely on a single backup, no matter where it is or how it was made. All hardware fails, sooner or later, no backup app is perfect, and things like lightning, fire, flood, and theft happen, too.
With a desktop Mac (and a U.P.S. system that both the Mac and External HD are on), you can let TM do it's hourly backups (although that won't help a lot with the current incarnation of File Vault), then keep secondary backups on a separate HD, perhaps a portable one, with a different app. See #27 in [Time Machine - Frequently Asked Questions|http://web.me.com/pondini/Time_Machine/FAQ.html] (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum), for some suggestions.
I have thought of doing another weekly backup on a different external HD that I keep at the office, but I'm still procrastinating that one. Now that I think about it, does Time Machine cater for that: having two backup routines on two different HDD's?
You can do that, but you must tell Time Machine each time you want to "swap" drives. But each will be complete and independent.

Install new hard drive, restore from Time Machine, File Vault Problems

Hello all,
I spent way too much time on this seemingly simple task, so I thought I would share my experience with others so they can avoid some pitfalls when upgrading a hard drive in a system that uses File Vault 2 encryption. The basic goal here is to replace a drive in a system that has only one drive, and the OS is Mavericks, and then have the new drive encrypted as before.
The problem is that a Time Machine restore onto a new drive will leave that without a Recovery Partition, which is required for File Vault 2 and some other important things. So we need to build a recovery partition. There are possibly several ways to do this.
Here's what worked for me (this is compiled from many sources that I found and already closed the tabs in my browser so I can't list all my sources):
1) Make a full backup to an external hard drive using Time Machine.
2) Go into the App Store and download OS X Mavericks but dont install it (close the window when it pops up asking to continue the install). Do this even if you already have Mavericks. At this point, there will be a folder in your Applications folder called Install OS X Mavericks (or similar).
3) Insert a USB drive that is at least 8 GB and format it using Disk Utility, naming it the default "Untitled".
4) Open a terminal and type
sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia --volume /Volumes/Untitled --applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app --nointeraction
5) Wait for this to finish (took me about 30 min). Eject the USB drive and power down.
6) Remove the old hard drive and set it aside. Keep it for a few weeks until you know the new drive is working as expected.
7) Install the new hard drive and insert the USB drive. Hold the option key and press the power button. Choose to boot from the USB installer.
8) Use the disk utility to erase whatever partition shipped with the new drive, replacing it with a Mac OS Extended (Journaled) system. Verify that GUID is the partition type (in Advanced options).
9) Close the disk utility and install Mavericks. This can take a long time. My new drive is an SSD, and it sat at the "1 second remaining" part for about 20 min. Let it reboot (maybe it was 2 times?) and go through the setup until it finishes the install.
10) Boot into the freshly installed OS and open a terminal and type:
diskutil list
11) If there is a partition listed as Apple_Boot Recovery HD (mine was 650 MB), then you now have a recovery partition. If not, then go into the App store and download Mavericks, but don't use the USB this time, choose to do a regular install (or reinstall to be more correct).
12) Now there will be a recovery partition on the new drive and Time Machine will not overwrite it when restoring. Power down the system.
13) Plug in the Time Machine backup drive used in step 1. Press the option key and power on. Choose to boot from the recovery partiton (Mavericks).
14) Choose to restore from Time Machine backup. Wait until it finishes and log into the old familiar account.
15) Start a terminal and verify the recovery partition is still there (type diskutil list and see that the Apple_Boot Recovery HD is there). If it's missing, choose to download Mavericks from the App Store again and run the installation from this one.
16) Once there is a Mavericks recovery partition on the restored data you can simply turn on File Vault from the System Preferences Security section. It will require a reboot and then you login and wait for it to finish.
What a major pain to go through all of this for the sake of upgrading a hard drive. This should not be anywhere near as complicated. I hope this helps others avoid the very time consuming trial and error I went through in developing this procedure.

Talked with Apple last night. Everything we did to restore lost images failed to fix the issue. I did have the images still on my camera's SD card so I was not breaking out in a cold sweat.
All Time Machine backups showed the same issue. HOWEVER, I suddenly remembered I also had a SuperDuper backup and voila. The images were there.
Moral of the story: you can't ever be too rich or have too many backups (I also have an offsite backup).

Anyone have success recovering from a disk failure after turning on File Vault

My wife is running at 13" Macbook Pro Late 2011/Early 2012 running OS 10.7.3. I updated several Apple fixes and a firmware fix the other day for here. I also activated her File Vault to encrypt her files when not in use. She had some intermittent issues with slow startups yesterday and today I was forced to do a hard reboot. Swirling pinwheel that didn't seem tied to any application and and Command/Alt/Esc did not work to force quite or even see if anythng was hanging.
This morning I a was getting a white screen followed by a file with a question mark...I have attempted to use Command-R internet recovery feature in Lion and managed to it to start up so I can open Utlilities and see if there are issues with the disk. It is showing a 500.11 GB Toshiba MK5065GSXF Media and not a Macintosh HD. I am unable to Verify or Repar Permissions or the Disk as these are grayed out.
Did she lose the hard drive? What are my options here. My wife - after I convinced her to use a Mac - has lost four hard drives in less than a year and is on here second system (the first one was replaced by Apple after she lost three hard drives!)
Any chance this is an issue with File Encyrption? Any suggestions on how to fix this?

5 days after I had recieved my mbp, my harddrive failed as well. I did try to reinstall the OS but with no luck. At some point during installation, it would stop telling me to try again. So I took it to the nearest technical service center and they confirmed the hd-failure and replaced it. this was the 80gig @ 5200rpm. but since you were able to reinstall the OS again, you should be fine. have you run the diskutility again?

Login screen on MacBook Pro Retina (Late 2013) with enabled File Vault is extremely slow (suttering)

Hi
I have a MacBook Pro Retina (Late 2013) with enabled File Vault on OS X Mavericks. When I boot up the mac freshly it takes quite long to get to the initial login screen (which as I understand is a pre-boot login provided by the recovery partition if File Vault is enabled). However, what is even more bothering me is that once I get to this screen, the whole UI is behaving extremely slow. The mouse makes jumps of a few inches on the screen and the animations (e.g. if you click a user and then an animation shows the password entry field) are running in slow motion and only update every few seconds. Typing the password afterwards runs smothly again (altought for example moving the mouse at this point still behaves as described before). After loggin in to the account OS X runs fine without any hicks. Can anyone give me a hit what this could be and how I could resolve this?
This has already been done:
Reset PRAM
Boot into recovery partition and run repaired disk and disk permissions
Run all OS X maintenance operations and cleared caches using OnyX
What I could imagine is that somehow the recovery partition is damaged (which as I understand is used to boot to the login screen if File Vault is enabled).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Chris

Just ordered a Retina MacBook Pro11,2 (mid-2014 15", 2.2GHz Intel Core i7, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD, OSX 10.9.4 Pre-installed - Build 13E28) and have the exact same issue. The first thing I did when i booted it for the first time was enable FileValut2 and encrypt the disk. Though I failed to notice this behavior prior to encrypting the disk, the stuttering/lag happens without fail every time I have logged in from a cold boot, locked screen or sleep. Additionally I have noticed the same stuttering behavior when switching tabs on various built-in OSX applications such as the tabs on the About This Mac > More Info.... (System Information) dialog for example, and similarly other dialogs that experience this behavior of resizing when switching tabs. I was running no other software than About This Mac > More Info ... (System Information) and OSX 10.9.4 itself. The issue happens without fail with and without a USB mouse plugged in.
I am really glad to have found this thread and with such recent posts. I'd love to find out that this is just a software bug that will be fixed when OSX 10.10 "Yosemite" is released. If not, I hope the cause of this bug is determined soon so I can still exchange or have it repaired.
Migflono and Matthew, would you be able to post your hardware specs for comparison?

Can't turn off File Vault

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I am having the same issue. I have 180 GB free on my HD, but my "home" volume only has 15GB free and I cannot turn off File Vault. Other than moving my whole music library and then deleting it, I don;t know how to get the space I need and turn the d..m file vault off.
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