Fill in detail block automatically when master block is populated

Hi,
I have a form with 4 blocks. 2 are on a regular canvas, the other 2 are on tab canvases. When the first block is populated all the other blocks should be populated as well. This works for the one block which is not on the tab canvas. The other block are only populated the moment they get focus. (the cursor moves in).
Workaround would be to work with execute_query but in which trigger would I need to place this? (POST_QUERY, ON_FETCH do not work. WHEN_NEW_RECORD_INSTANCE works with plenty of errors)
Best Regards,
Kris

Is this a new form written by you and you know what code it contains ?
If it an existing form written or maintained by other people, you ought to check for code you are unaware of.
Using find and replace pl/sql to search for SET_RELATION_PROPERTY might be worth doing for a start.

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Populating the detail block

Hi Gurus,
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Now having the detail block as insert not allowed and update not allowed, my procedure is not able to populate the block. But if I changed insert allowed yes and update allowed =yes, the procedure populates the block. But I make the user enter values on the block which is not entertained. Please help me how can I achieve this?
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try setting INSERT/UPDATE allowed = 'NO' for the all the detail fields, rather than
block. should work.

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This is a common problem that we usually face... 
Isn't it? Don't we have any Form level Casscade 
Update (as we have Casscade Delete)? 
Well, I cannot say that's a common job to update primary key. That' even very rare... maybe one or two time I seen this one in the real world, and that was during migration application or such like thing. 
Some days ago, there was same discussion Re: For update cascade 
 
But if you have to update very often your PK, you maybe need to rethink the datamodel. 
 
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when moving from master block to detail block it must save record or it will give message like 'save changes '....
when i write it ,but this message will be coming.
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you could ask for Form_Success when moving to detail_block (in wehn-new-block-instance i.e.) and if not form_success you could show an alert to ask for commit changes...
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I have some generated forms with the following layout:
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When I query the master block, the detail blocks are not automatically queried, the user must navigate to them to make the automatic query work.
I found out that it is something related to the blocks not being in the same canvas. But visually, they are in the same canvas, I would like that the detail blocks were queried automatically.
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I found it - I just set BSCSCP preference correctly, and now it works fine!

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Welcome at OTN
Please Before posting on this forum please read
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Check in When-New-Form instance trigger, is there any code like
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Hamid
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Begin
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ELSE
NULL;
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Thanks and regards
karthik

Hi
Getting error message what is the error message ?
to inform the user "Provide values for form B text item", Pls try to use WHEN-CREATE-RECORD or WHEN-validate-RECORD Trigger instead
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stops the navigation
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Regards
Abdetu...
Edited by: Abdetu on Feb 5, 2011 9:33 AM

Oracle Forms : Master Detail : Cannot query detail block

MY requirement is: when user enters records in master block, the corresponding records should be displayed in the detail block. (Detail block is just for viewing).
Master block is a database block based on a custom table. All fields are enetereble in this block.
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I have created a relation between the 2 blocks. (Deferred=No, AutoQuery=No, Delete Record Behaviour=Isolated.). There is a join between master table & this view.
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LOV problem in Master-detail blocks

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I've got a form with two master-details blocks :
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Block B
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Block C - Lov D/E
In my block C, i want to create two lovs (D/E).
When i'am displaying the key item of the block (FK between C and the LOVs) and with the property "Enter FK with Descriptor"=NO. The LOV is OK on the key item and works correctly.
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Multiple master blocks populating the same detail blocks

Hey guys. Im doing something a little weirder than I usually do but I can't get it to work correctly and im wondering if any of you have accomplished this before.
I have a call center application which processes applications by either the application or by follow up. The application and follow up are each a block by themselves located on a separate pages on a tab canvas. Both these blocks are master blocks to the detail blocks which would be user_phones, user_addresses, user_bank_accounts, etc. The idea is I can use either page of the tabs and flip through either the follow up, or application master block and have it populate the user tables according to the user_id found on the master blocks. I figured I could use a when-new-block-instance trigger to switch off which block fires the on-populate-details trigger.
The problem is.... complicated. If I go to the follow up block and execute query, it brings back the right information on the detail block. The strange thing is it seems like when I move the cursor to a different record on the same block, forms is almost setting a SET_BLOCK_PROPERTY DEFAULT_WHERE action. This is un-noticeable until i go to the other master detail block. When I start using the applications block, it seems like all the detail records actually MATCH the user_id that the cursor was on in the follow up block...
phew! thats a lot of description for such a strange problem..
Anyways. Anyone encountered this before? Has anyone ever built a two master block form to populate the same detail block? Is it possible? I haven't found a thread in the forum about this subject..
Any help would be great. Thanks in advance :)

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How to commit in master detail block

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I have a master and a detail block .
In detail block if i try to insert a record and commit it is working fine .
But when i try to insert multiple records then I am unable to commit .
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Plz help me
thanks shubh

Could you, please check out the complete error message by clicking the help-> display_error menu option ?

Ora-03114 when saving data after second update for the detail block

hi
i am using developer 6i and i did a form which includes masters and details blocks
when i create a record for the master and detail and save it , then it saves , and if i make any changes on the detail block for the first time and save it saves , but if i make changes for the second time and save it gives me
ora-03114 not connected to oracle
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Hi
This is very strange...
What if u re-connect to oracle form ...? is same problem occured ?
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2.Remove any un-necessary triggers u thought they r ignored by ur forms but they almost causes unexpected problems...!
3.pls share us the code u have in key-commit or post-commit trigger , etc.
or remove it temporary just for test purposes compile , generate and run.
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Amatu Allah

Master-detail blocks

I developped a form with 2 blocks
that are linked with a master detail relation
The second block contains the details record of the first one
Example of tables : dept - emp
Is it possible to add a record in the dept table that will show all the records from the emp table when you click on it.
Thank you for your help
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Originally posted by Emmanuelle OTT ([email protected]):
Hi!
When you create a detail block using wizard and you get a page in which you have create relationship button which will help you in your desired relation.
if you create them manually then got to master block and under that create relation in which you you can choose the detail block and the type of relation and the condition and for any further query you can refer to help in the same page by pressing F1.
regards
Vidya Verma
I developped a form with 2 blocks
that are linked with a master detail relation
The second block contains the details record of the first one
Example of tables : dept - emp
Is it possible to add a record in the dept table that will show all the records from the emp table when you click on it.
Thank you for your help<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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URGENT HELP PLS : Issue with Multi Level Master Detail block

This is an issue someone else had posted in this forum few years back but there was no solution mentioned, I have run into this same issue , The problem is as explained below.
Any help on this is appreciated.
Scenario:
There are 3 Blocks in the form : A (Master Block)
: B (Detail of A )
: C (Detail of B )
There is master detail relation created between A and B and B and C. So initially when we query for a record in Master A, it shows all records properly in B and C.
Now if i navigate to the first record of B , and then second record of B , records corresponding to that record shows up properly in C block.
Till now everything works fine.
Issue 1:
But in case after querying initially on Master Block A,If I go directly to the second record of B block, it clears the whole B block and C block.
Issue 2:
Same thing happens if I am on C block ( corresponding to second record of B block) and then navigate to first record in B block , it again clears the whole B block and C block.
Please Help !!
Thanks !

Thanks Xem for Your reply , I tried those settings but it did not help..here is the original link that to the thread that talks about the same problem ,
Issue with Multi Level Master Detail block
The last update to this was the following :
"I figured out that this is happening because Block Status is set to 'Changed' and this is causing it to clear out the blocks.
But cant figure out why the status is setting to 'Changed' "
Any Help from the form Gurus on this form in this matter is truely appreicated !!
Thanks,
Zid.

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