First Midi Note Delay

Hey All,
I'm having a problem where the first midi note i play is delayed all notes after that are fine,
does anyone have any idea how to fix this,
i am running Logic Pro X on Mavericks,
Thanks

digitaltracks wrote:
I have done some tests,
& the delay is only present after i add an audio track to the session.
Just to be clear.. no plugins anywhere in the project, including the master bus?
If you select a software instrument track and play a few notes/chords before recording on that track you get the 1st note problem? What is your Preferences/Audio "I/O Buffer Size" set at?
Logic X does have considerably more overhead than Logic 9 but I don't think this is the problem.
For testing:
Preferences/Audio/Devices I/O Buffer = 128
"                                  "     Recording Delay = 0 (this setting should always be zero)
"                                  "    Software Monitoring = Off
Preferences/Audio/General Tab   Track/Mute = Slow Response-CPU Saving)
"                                          "   Sample Accurate Automation = Volume, Pan Sends
"                                          "   Recording File Type = Wave (BWF) or AIFF
"                                          "   Plugin Latencey Compensation = Audio & Software Instrument Tracks.
Reboot the computer before testing.

Similar Messages

Why is the first MIDI note always delayed?

Hi all
I'm having some trouble recording MIDI in Logic Pro X. When using virtual instruments (built-in Logic instruments) there is a latency issue with the first note. When recording or playing along, the first note I play has quite audible latency, but everything after that is fine, no latency. If the song is stopped and I am just playing the instrument it's fine, the problem only occurs when recording or playing back. If I am recording, the MIDI note is recorded in the correct place, it sounds fine in playback.
Really not sure what's going on. I've been looking round on the interwebs, and it seems that others are having the same issue, but I couldn't find any answers that fixed it for me. Any help would be appreciated
I am running Logic 10.0.7 on a MacBook Pro, using Mavericks.
Thanks in advance

This isn't just the first time after I select the track though, even if the track is in live mode it will still have this issue, if I record over and over on the same track, it happens every time. If I hit record, then use pitch bend or something like that during the count in it will be fine, but I have to do this every time I record, and it will create the new region early. I could do this every time I record, but I'm wondering if there's something else I can do to fix it more permanently.
Thanks for the help

MIDI note delay / stagger using Caps Lock keyboard and 3rd party plugins

Whenever I am using any of the following plugins:
Waldorf PPG Wave, Waldorf D-Pole or Audio Damage Reverence,
with the respective plugin windows open, I can hit several notes on the Caps Lock keyboard simultaneously and some of them will trigger after the rest.
Interestingly, Reverence and D-Pole are effects, and so placing them on any audio instrument, including those that came with Logic, causes them to behave as PPG Wave always does when its plugin window is open.
The delay time seems to be variable.
When the plugin windows are closed, there is no delay.
As well, triggering many notes at once or notes in quick succession seems to cause things to stagger up more.
Sometimes the MIDI notes get stuck and continue playing until they are pushed again.
This seems strange to me, as CPU usage on the plugins is extremely low (the CPU meter does not even register a single mark).
The problem does NOT occur if I draw out a MIDI sequence that does precisely the sort of things that cause the holdups when I am using the Caps Lock keyboard.
Is the Caps Lock keyboard just not very good at certain things?
Why would this problem occur only with these specific plugins?
None of Logic's included plugins have this problem (unless of course I stick Reverence or D-Pole on them as an insert and open the Reverence window).
Naturally this is an inconvenience that can be worked around, but it is annoying.
Thanks for your time.

Hey Rob,
I opened up the Activity Monitor, and CPU usage in Logic Express is 35-40% with the plugin window open and between 16-20% with it closed.
That doesn't seem to be it, but your suggestion that the Caps Lock keyboard is probably just not good at handling many notes at once is definitely correct.
I plugged in a MIDI keyboard and the CPU usage is the same, but there is no staggering problem.
Perhaps there is something off with the CPU meter in Logic Express 7, though.
The Audio side registers activity, but the CPU side says nothing, when clearly the Activity Monitor has it right.
Anyway, thank you for answering my question--it is sort of an annoying little problem, but I just won't play fast with Caps Lock, I suppose.
Vince

Midi notes or audio region do not play at the start of a bar?

I am having an issue with a midi loop I have created. If I let the song play a bit until it reaches the loop, logic works just as you'd expect it and everything plays correctly. But if I stop the song, or if I set the song into cycle mode so it repeats, the very first note of the midi loop is ignored, and not played.
So for example, if I set the cursor to start at bar 9, the starting point of the loop, the first midi note is not played. But if a set the cursor at bar 8 and let it play into bar 9 and the loop, all of the notes in the loop play correctly.
I found the following description of the same problem on another forum, but it seemed to suggest that there is no fix for this, which if true, seems kinda bad for a pro application. I was wondering if anyone knew of a workaround or fix to this, because its really annoying missing the notes, or having to expand the cycle region just to get all of the notes to play. Here is the text from the other forum:
_Logic doesn't play the very start of my audio regions when I start playback_
Question: If a region starts at e.g. 1 1 1 1, and it starts playing from the same position, it seems that Logic misses the first few samples - which is especially noticeable with fast-attack transients.
Answer: Apparently Logic doesn't use some kind of pre-play buffering. The workaround is to have your entire song start e.g. one bar later, at 2 1 1 1, and let Logic play from 1 1 1 1. This workaround obviously doesn't work if you've set up a cycle - in which case Logic will miss the first samples when it starts playing as well. Next time it loops through the cycle it does play properly. There's no workaround for this - it's a serious shortcoming of the way Logic handles audio playback. With cycles, you could resort to using the Pause instead of the Play button/command: this will let you start playback from somewhere before the start of the cycle instead of starting at cycle-start (which is what Play does).

I'm having the same problem.
one workaround is to change the delay to +1/192=20 in the delay box in inspector on the given midi track...but this is a terrible thing to have to do over and over again.
PLEASE help if you know what's going on.....I ran logic on my macbook and this NEVER happened. I just bought a macbook pro 2.5 and it's apparently now an issue?
I have searched the net for fixes, and none work....logic does have a pre-play buffer, but it's range isnt large enough to buffer the instrument I'm using...which means the range is less than 1/192...come on....that's messed.
If anyone figures this out, please message me back at [email protected]

USB MIDI not working in Windows 7 Pro 64-bit

The problem is that even though my devices are recognized in Control Panel/ Sound and in Device Manager, no MIDI data actually flows and I cannot sync my keyboard to the Yamaha software that edits it. The error message in the Yamaha software reads
“The following MIDI ports can not be opened at this time”. At first, MIDI was working and I could sync up, but after about a week, right around the time I uninstalled and re-installed a MS Lifecam, it failed and has not worked since.
I have been working directly with Yamaha tech support on the issue for some time. I have a Yamaha SX70 XS keyboard, which is recognized by Windows as a connected USB device. It is self-powered, not powered by USB. I am using the Yamaha USB-MIDI driver version
3.1.2 for Windows 7 64-bit (the latest driver). And the latest versions of all their editing software for Win7 64-bit. They assure me that those work for other users of Win7 64-bit. In my case though, everything shows up in Windows, but MIDI doesn’t actually
work. And I cannot sync to the keyboard due to the above error message.
Yamaha tells me that their USB-MIDI driver is installing fine on my machine, except that it’s missing a windows driver at the bottom of the driver stack. (You can see this in Device Manager, Properties/Driver tab, then Driver Details. The missing driver
is ksthunk.sys, which I think handles kernel streaming. Sounds like that would relate to MIDI data. They have never heard of this driver not showing up there, and they cannot reproduce the problem. ksthunk.sys is on my machine in c:\windows\system32\drivers\
and in the registry the image path is \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ksthunk.sys
All devices are “working properly” in Windows Device Manager, despite that missing driver. Yamaha MIDI Driver is shown in Control Panel/Sound, and it can be worked with there (opened, closed, configured, etc.). I have also tried three different USB
cables (but those shouldn't be an issue since the keyboard is showing up in Windows).
I was also advised by Yamaha to edit registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Drivers32 and remove all midi, midi1, midi2, etc entries, then uninstall and reinstall all drivers. Which I did, but it didn't help.
So far, no amount of re-installation, event viewing, uninstalling devices, numerous reboots,etc has fixed it. On this machine, that driver just doesn’t hook up to the Yamaha MIDI driver and show up in the stack.
So it looks like it may be a Windows 7 config problem on my machine, and I'm hoping someone here can give me some advice on how to fix it. The Microsoft forums contain a fair number of users reporting similar problems, some are audio and some are webcam
related. I've followed those threads, and done several of the suggestions, but haven't found a solution to this one.
This is a Dell XPS 8300 Windows 7 64-bit PC with all the latest updates, only about six weeks old. I've been struggling with the MIDI problem for most of that time. I'm an IT professional (network and systems admin), so you can be fairly technical
in your response.
Any suggestions will be welcome. Thanks in advance.

I am so glad I found keyman7's description, since I have exactly the same problem.
The problem is not related to MIDI output! I have it with a pure USB-MIDI-input device (keyboard), whichs produces "unknown externeal error" every time I try to select it as input. The same thing occurs with a USB-MIDI-Cable.
I compared the driver details from my system (Dell T1500 windows 7 pro 64 bit) with those of another windows 7 pro 64 bit. On that other system the device works like a charm (so it is not the hardware, either).
On the other system I find ksthunk.sys in addition to the modules that are listed on my system as well (beeing \windows\system32\drivers\drmk.sys, ..\prtcls.sys, ..\USBAUDIO.sys and \windows\system32\SysFx.dll, ..\WMALFXGFXDSP.dll).
Can it be some other USB driver is interfering with this driver stack? I have no idea how to figure out which one it could be. Or, it has been suggested in other threads with somewhat similar looking symptoms, ksthunk.sys has been removed as UpperFilters
entry?
Help - please!

How do I move cc 64 (sustain) data in sync when I move midi notes?

In the matrix editor, when I 'Select All Following' in order to move everything that follows back a few ticks to get rid of a rythmic hesitation, the sustain pedal data doesn't move with the notes. Obviously, this messes up the piano pedaling. Is there a way to 'attach' the controller info to the notes when I move them, or is there a better view window in which to this sort of editing? Thanks!

I was trying to figure this out myself and didn't understand the previous reply at first. But after a few seconds playing around I got it. If you open the midi matrix editor (in the 'windows' menu) you can select the notes you desire to move. After selecting the notes go to the event list (in the 'windows' menu). You should see the notes you've already selected in the event list highlighted in gray.
The items listed as 'control' are the sustain pedal controls in the midi information. (you can tweak these number values here as well). Holding the 'shift' key down, click all of the sustain pedal control items that you want to move. They should be within and/or around the already highlighted notes (the list is in order of sequence of the song). Once all is selected you can switch back to the matrix editor and drag the notes where you want them like normal, but you will also be moving the sustain information since you selected it in the event list.
Also, within the matrix editor itself you can use the view menu and navigate to the hyper draw option and choose sustain pedal. Now you can see the sustain controls under the midi notes and edit the length, etc. You can use the little arrow on the left to change what the hyper draw editing will change as well (volume, sustain pedal, etc.). Hope that helps.

How to create a group of midi notes and...?

Hi, I was thinking about if it's possible to create for example a group of 32 nidi notes with a specific duration and a specific separation between them without painting them.
And then, I have a drum on the beat with its midi notes, now I want to have a sound wich midi note is off the beat at the first time but after a time it gets on the beat linearly, is it possible without painting the notes?Maybe with the transform window??
Thanks a lot!

Is there a ny option in logic to create multiple midi notes at once?
In my comment here, I described how to use the Hyper Editor to create multiple midi notes at once. That was for the purpose of creating a drum roll, but the method can also be used in other situations.
the second is a little bit earlier, the third a little bit more
I'm not sure I understand, but I might. I think the easiest way to do this is to convert the midi to audio, and then use Flex to alter the length (i.e., tempo) of the region.

Midi note B below middle C is being played as Eb (below middle C) in the region only

When I'm recoding midi I'm running into a very strange problem..... randomly the B below middle C gets re-routed to Eb (below middle C). It shows right visually in the region, and when I go back to the controller and play the B note it plays correctly but when playing back the region it plays the Eb. Sometimes it will play back correctly but after a while it will happen and when it happens there is no way to make it do anything else....i tried other plugins , other tracks but it stays the same. Again, when you open the region to look at the midi, the midi notes are in the right place, if I click on the Bb note in the region it plays an Eb but if I go to the controller and play a B it plays a B...???. I have looked through everything to try and find anything that would be causing this but haven't found any reason for this.... it is very strange that it is only happening to one note and it always does the same thing....B to Eb....

Yep, that's a known glitch. Very hard to repeat, but reports keep trickling in. There are a few solutions though, but no method of preventing it. Since I reported it first, I haven't encountered it again. Knock on wood.
http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=99041&p=523387
http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=517486#p517486
https://discussions.apple.com/message/22796767#22796767
http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=104849

I'm getting a stuck MIDI note with Garageband 10.0.2?

Using IMAC 3.2Ghz Intel Core i5 running Garageband 10.0.2 with a Yamaha PSR-3500 with MIDI to USB interface.
Everything seems fine at first but then one note will be 'stuck' and continuously sound. Some following actions may stop it, including switching the keyboard mains power on and off. It doesn't seem to be a continuous signal sent because I can see the corresponding MIDI note is not appearing on the piano roll etc. It's just like Garageband 'won't let the note go'?
Any ideas would be appreciated, especially if there are any long-time MIDI users out there - I am brand new to MIDI, via Garageband.

Welcome to the Apple Community Russell.
Assuming this is not the first time you have used your Apple TV
You might try restarting the Apple TV by removing ALL the cables for 30 seconds.
Also try restarting the router. (Also try removing it’s power cord for at least 30 seconds)
If the problem persists, try a restore, you may want to try the previous procedures several times before doing this.
If restoring from the Apple TV doesn't help, try restoring from iTunes using a USB cable.
If this is a new Apple TV, in addition to trying the above, it may also be that your network router is not allowing access to the timeserver, check that your router allows access over port 123.

Logic Pro X: One MIDI note won't play

I am having a strange problem with Logic Pro X. I use a Yamaha CP33 as my main MIDI keyboard, connected by USB. In the past couple weeks, a strange problem has emerged - one of the notes from the keyboard, the B-2, to be specific, just doesn't trigger. At first I thought the key was broken, but it's okay, because:
- all keys work fine when I use the keyboard's analog audio output
- all keys work fine in MainStage
- the non-functional key moves up and down if I choose to transpose the notes on the keyboard.
So I have concluded that it's a software issue specific to Logic. I have already tried reinstalling the Yamaha USB MIDI driver, it didn't help. Could it be some obscure setting in Logic that is messing things up? What do you suggest can I do to fix this?

Hi
You may have set up LPX to use that MIDI note as an automation control, or as a keycommand
a) Go to Preferences;Controller Assignments & check there
b) Go to Preferences Key Commands and check there
Might be quicker to reset aboth?
CCT

External Midi Plugin and Midi Output Delay

This one is fairly esoteric but has anyone run into the following problem or have a workaround?
I'm trying to incorporate the External midi plugin into my setup so I can use the new midi plugins, but I cannot correctly calibrate my system when using it. My calibration technique invoolves setting delay for each synth to the slowest of the bunch and then compensating for all in the Sync > All Midi Out > Delay preference. However, when you use the external midi plugin this control has no effect. Running the synths as standard midi does work but then you lose the option of using the new midi plugins.
If verified, does anyone know if this issue will be resolved in an update?
Thanks,
David

Pancenter,
Thanks for replying. I haven't had internet in a couple days and I'm back on now. Time Warner Cable is sometimes unstable around my area.
Logic:
I've been trying different things for the last couple days and nothing works.
I replayed and recorded a 4 bar piano part and made sure that the hits were as close to the grid as possible. It sounded fine on MIDI Recording. But on MIDI Playback Here's what I found: The Midi data is not misplaced, it's right where it should be. But the actual sound is delayed on playback.
I have a PreSonus Monitoring Station. The outputs of the Motif go straight into the Traveler (In 5-6). The Main outputs on the Traveler go into the PreSonus Monitoring Station as well as my KRK Monitors. I control the volume from the Monitor Station.
Software Monitoring and Independent Monitoring Level are both enabled.
I don't get it...Please help.

Not all MIDI notes selected though they should be

If I still have your attention for a brief moment, I just had the most strange experience:
I selected a group of MIDI notes and dragged them - but then I saw that maybe 8-10 notes out of 12 bars were NOT selected, and thus NOT moved?
What's that all about?
Maybe I should add, that I normally only use Logic for audio recording, and Cubase for MIDI. So this MIDI behaviour confuses me.
Message was edited by: mosegaard

Not so fast!
There are still ways to explain this behaviour, & a bug like this would have been reported by dozens of people by now…
Are you sure the unselected notes weren't previously selected?
Here's the manual (p.174):
_Making Rubber-Band Selections_
To select consecutive regions or events (or other elements, such as Mixer channel strips), click on the background and drag a rubber-band over them.
All regions or events touched, or enclosed, by the rubber-band (shaded area) will be selected.
_Switching the Selection Status_
When you make any selection (including by rubber-band or horizontal selection) while holding down Shift, the active selection status of the regions or events will be reversed.
You can also reverse the selection status of all regions or events by using +Edit > Toggle Selection+ (default key command: Shift-T).
As an example: If you want to select all regions in a project, with the exception of a few, you can first select the regions that you do not want to choose, and then use the +Toggle Selection+ command.
Again, this is just an example. I'm 99% sure it will be something like this…

MIDI notes sent during record ready mode AND whenever I start Logic Pro and

Why is Logic Studio pro sending a MIDI note whenever I am writing a new AUDIO track? I get a steady pulse during record ready mode AND this also happens each time I open a project up. ( although it only sends ONE midi note (NOT repeating) when I open up a project)
I have eliminated it by simply turning off the midi interface but this is hardly a fix.
thanks for any help!
Bob

Is it doing this for all projects? Did you change anything in the Environment window? All MIDI gets routed through there. You could attach a monitor object to your MIDI tracks in the Environment to try to see what's going on...although first I would make sure no other programs on your computer could be interfering.

Record midi notes from reason?

I was wondering if there is any way to send midi notes from reason back into logic (other than exporting regions) :P
The reason I want to do this is because I am addicted to the Matrix editor in reason... it's such a fun scratchpad
-S

You mean the Matrix editor in Logic, dont you?
No, there is actually a matrix editor in reason too.... It's basically a pattern sequencer that makes it feel like you are working on a TB-303
Well, not quite that good :P but it's fun.
It's basically an analog style sequencer.... gives you CV type outputs if you want
I tried to get the exact link that explains it, but it just shows up as...
http://www.propellerheads.se/
Do a search for "matrix" it is the first one in the list
-S

Deleted midi notes take several seconds to dissappear!

Logic Pro X: When I delete a midi note from the piano roll it can take 10 maybe 15 seconds to disappear, usually when I try to click on it again. Very frustrating as I'm never quite sure if a note has been removed when I edit. Anyone else seen this problem?
Thanks,
Terence

I've just discovered that if i select a note by dragging a selection box around it, then it deletes immediately when I press the delete key. If I select by just clicking on the individual note, then I get these weird delay phenomena. Bizarre - but at least I now have a working solution.

First Midi Note Delay

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for