Fm9p237, probs with Save As PDF, turns some anchored frames blue

I am using Save As PDF because have to create CMYK PDF. I know how to do that. The issue now is that FrameMaker is sticking blue boxes around only *some* of the graphics.
They are all EPS graphics imported by reference into anchored frames. These boxes do not appear in the FM file.
The boxes clearly are the anchored frame bounding boxes.
Any ideas? Any switch I should set? Any ritual incantations that will appease the FM Postscript generator?
Thanks for your help, Becky

Hi Bernd and Art,
Yes, I am using spot colors. I did some more testing and here is what I found:
Use Save As PDF in FM-->all colors except for spots are correctly converted to CMYK. Bitmap screenshots are also converted to CMYK. If I convert the spot colors to CMYK SWOP in Acrobat 9, using its preflight tool, the spots are all converted to the same CMYK values that they were assigned in Frame. BUT there are random blue boxes in the doc, clearly where FM for some reason colored the bounding box of an anchored frame or a table cell.
Print to Adobe Printer instance in FM with the Press Quality job options-->All colors come out CMYK, including spot colors and bitmapped
and there are no random blue boxes BUT the CMYK conversions of the spot colors are wrong.
My choice: Save As PDF. I will just remove the blue boxes with Acrobat.
I considered PitStop Pro and downloaded the trial copy, but its userdoc is terrible and I can't figure out how to batch-convert the incorrect CMYK colors t. Can't find any good help on line either. Too much bother.
Sigh. Adobe, are you listening? It's ridiculous that the company that produces Photoshop can't make CMYK color conversion work in Frame.
TThank you, Bernd and Art. I appreciate your feedback very much.
--becky

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DON'T USE "SAVE AS PDF"
But what's wrong with "save as PDF" as currently implemented?
The following are some of the SYMPTOMS reported over the last few years by FrameMaker users that were traced back to use of "save as PDF" under FrameMaker:
(1) No PDF file is produced at all, possibly with a log file showing not-readily apparent PostScript errors during distillation.
(2) The PDF file "loses" color in images. All or some images (raster, bitmap images, NOT vector artwork) appear in the PDF file in grayscale.
(3) The resultant PDF file is on the wrong paper size, i.e., the document's logical page size does not match the output page size as seen in Acrobat or Acrobat Reader.
(4) Some or all text in the resultant PDF file is blotchy looking or overly bold.
(5) Some or all text in the resultant PDF file cannot be searched or indexed.
(6) Some or all text in the resultant PDF file appears in Courier or in some other substitution font.
(7) Interword or intercharacter spacing is a bit irregular in the resultant PDF file.
(8) Content is missing in the margin areas of the page, i.e. you cannot do full-page bleeds.
(9) Some or all page content is missing (other than margin areas).
(10) Relatively inefficient PDF is generated.
If this list by itself isn't enough for you, please note that some of these symptoms are very subtle and may escape attention when the PDF is first viewed or printed. Oftimes, it is when one attempts to manipulate the PDF file in Acrobat or repurpose its content or even view or print on a system other than the one on which the PDF file was created, that some of these symptoms make themselves obnoxiously visible (or invisible in some cases I won't make any bad jokes here about graphic examples!).
It is important to understand that FrameMaker does NOT have its own native ability to create PDF. Any and all PDF created from FrameMaker documents is actually done by creating PostScript via the PostScript driver and having the Acrobat Distiller create PDF from that PostScript. The only exception to this is creation of PDF via the Acrobat PDFWriter driver, which is likewise not recommended (see below).
In order for "save as PDF" to work correctly, FrameMaker must do the equivalent of calling Printer Setup and selecting the "Acrobat Distiller" printer instance under Windows or the "Create Adobe PDF" desktop printer under MacOS followed by setting the driver's options correctly for paper size, page range, etc., followed by sending the proper commands to the driver to create PostScript.
Contrary to popular belief, PostScript as generated by the Windows and MacOS PostScript drivers is VERY device-dependent. The information in the PPD file associated with a printer driver instance provides critical parameters for generation of PostScript including:
Whether the printer supports color (Acrobat Distiller does)
What PostScript language level is supported (Acrobat Distiller 4.x and Acrobat Distiller 5.x are both PostScript language level 3)
Whether native TrueType support is available (Acrobat supports native TrueType as Type 42 fonts)
Available binary communications (Acrobat Distiller supports pure binary and ASCII, but NOT TCP, TBCP, or PJL)
Resident fonts (Acrobat Distiller doesn't really have resident fonts)
Available paper sizes and custom paper size availability (Acrobat Distiller supports a wide range of predefined sizes and continually variable "custom" sizes up to 200" by 200")
Margins / printable areas (for PDF and the Acrobat Distiller, there are no margins in which imaging is not permitted)
Device resolution (Acrobat Distiller can be set to any value from 72 to 4000 dpi; as a convenience, the Acrobat Distiller PPD provides a series of values for use by the driver. Since there is no inherent "resolution" of a PDF file, this parameter is used only for purposes of allowing PostScript programs that query for such a value to be satisfied and for the driver to be able to communicate this value to the operating system and/or application as required.)
Paper handling (totally irrelevant to Acrobat Distiller if input or output tray selection via "setpagedevice" is found in the PostScript stream, it is ignored by Acrobat Distiller)
Thus, if the wrong printer driver instance is selected (i.e., it isn't associated with the Acrobat Distiller PPD file) or that driver instance is improperly configured, improper PostScript will result and one or more of the symptoms described above can occur. As currently implemented, FrameMaker depending upon version will not necessarily choose the correct printer driver instance and/or correctly parameterize the print job via driver setup options. In fact, FrameMaker 5,5,6 might even try to generate PDF via calling a PCL driver, FAX driver, or even a non-PostScript inkjet printer!
DON'T USE PDFWRITER
The Acrobat PDFWriter is a relic of older versions of Acrobat. In fact, it is no longer installed by default in the "easy install" or the "typical install" of Acrobat 5. It hasn't really be updated since Acrobat 3 and only supports PDF 1.2. It is a GDI (Windows) / QuickDraw (MacOS) driver that directly generates PDF without any intermediary PostScript. Since it is not a PostScript printer driver, applications cannot pass through EPS graphics and/or PDFMark information (used for a wide variety of purposes by FrameMaker). For EPS graphics, most applications will send the low resolution TIFF (or PICT) EPS header in lieu of the PostScript text, if they send anything at all, to the driver. Forget about links, structure, or any other PDF "goodies." Expect that PDFWriter will fully "bite the dust" in the next major version of Acrobat.
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In both the above sub-cases, the default driver options generally will be OK, but check on paper size and communication protocol (Use pure binary, not ASCII, for optimal performance AND no CTRL-D characters under Windows. Make sure to set Level 3 only and Binary under MacOS. Font inclusion "All" for Acrobat 4.05 and "None" for Acrobat 5 under MacOS.). With Acrobat 4.05, make sure you preset the Distiller to use the joboptions you want. With Acrobat 5, you can set this on a job-by-job basis via the driver printer setup interface (or print dialog on MacOS).
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MacOS -- Install the latest version of AdobePS 8.7.x, downloadable from Adobe's web site. In FrameMaker, go to Page Setup and select the "Virtual Printer" and go to the "Virtual Printer" window pane. Select the Acrobat Distiller PPD file (located in the XTRAS subfolder of the Distiller folder). Print directly to the "Virtual Printer" (Make sure to set Level 3 only, Binary, and font inclusion "All".). Make sure you preset the Distiller to use the joboptions you want. You will need to manually process the resultant PostScript file through the Distiller (or use a "watched folder" arrangement).
Case 3: Acrobat 3
Acrobat 3 is not officially supported for the latest OS versions and I personally would no longer recommend its use for generation of PDF files given that Acrobat 5.0.5 is the current version of Acrobat.
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I trust that answers your question...
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That's fine. But you are really saving two complete versions of the file's content, and the PDF you are sending to your non-Illustrator recipients is much larger than necessary. That's because the PDF, by Illustrator's default, also contains another complete copy of the file in Illustrator format, which is ignored by Reader.
> I know if I save as a .pdf (versus printing or exporting), I can reopen the .pdf and still have all my editing capabilities there (that i know of).
That's fine, too. But again, that's only because you are, as stated above, saving a PDF that also contains a complete second copy of the content as Illustrator-native objects. When you open that PDF in Illustrator, Illustrator loads the native-ai content, not the PDF content.
> Can someone enlighten me?
Despite confusing marketing hype to the contrary, PDF and Illustrator formats are not the same thing.
PDF is basically like capturing the artwork halfway on its path to a PostScript printer. Illustrator-specific constructs like live blends, multiple fills, multiple strokes, (and much more), are dumbed-down to simpler discrete objects.
But a PDF file can contain a "cordoned off" area that can contain just about any kind of data a programmer wants to insert there, but which is altogether ignored by Reader. Think of it like inserting a comment statement in a code file. That extra data, of course, makes the file larger.
Similarly, Adobe changed Illustrator's format a while back to also include a "cordoned off" area that can contain PDF data. Again, that extra data makes the file larger.
When you save as PDF in Illustrator, you are saving the content of the file as "dumbed down" PDF content that can be understood by Reader. But when doing so, if you also leave the default "Preserve Illustrator Editing Capabilities" checkbox on, you are also including a full copy of the file in Illustrator's native format in that "marked off" area inside the PDF. So if a recipient using Reader opens the PDF, Reader loads the PDF content and ignores the "marked off" content. If you open the PDF in Illustrator, Illustrator checks to see if you also stashed away AI-native content in that "marked off" area. If it finds that you did, it opens that version of the content, not the PDF version.
Inversely, when you save as AI, you are saving the content of the file as the fully editable Illustrator-specific constructs. But when doing so, if you also leave the "Create PDF Compatible File" checkbox on, then you will also be including another copy of the same content dumbed-down to PDF objects, and stored in .ai format's "marked off" area. If you then, for example, Place the .ai file in InDesign, InDesign in fact imports the "hidden" PDF content, not the .ai content.
The problem is, this scheme has been marketed as "equality" between Illustrator's native format and PDF format, and that has led to needless confusion. It's as if saying:
A may contain B.
Therefore A equals B.
Which, of course, is bogus. According to what I have been told, Corel, for example, could hide its fully-native Draw content within the "marked off" region of a PDF exportd from Draw. Corel could then, I guess, similarly claim that Draw and PDF are "equal."
Try this:
Open an Illustrator file. Make sure it contains some Illustrator-specific content, like a live Blend and a multi-line AreaType object. Save it as PDF, but turn off the Illustrator Editability checkbox. You have now exported the file as PDF content. Now open the PDF in Illustrator. It will open, because Illustrator can understand the simpler objects. But you'll find that the Blend is not an AI blend at all; it's just a stack of individual paths. The text object will be multiple textFrame objects, not one AreaType object with auto-wrapping text.
Now go back to the original AI document. Save it as AI, but turn off the Acrobat Compatibilty checkbox. Launch InDesign and try to Place the .ai file. InDesign will tell you it can't place the file. That's because InDesign can't really place .ai content. It can place PDF content, but there isn't a PDF version of the content in the .ai file you are trying to place.
So...
> I like the flexibility of saving as a .pdf
That's fine, so long as you are not fooled by the smoke-and-mirrors. If you allow yourself to go on thinking that PDF and AI are actually "the same thing," you'll be scratching your head as soon as you open a PDF that
doesn't happen to also contain a stashed-away version of itself in .ai-native format. (For just one example, if you ever happened to open a PDF saved by me.)
JET

Is possible in acrobat reader fill in and save interactive PDF created with LiveCycle Designer?

is possible in acrobat reader fill in and save interactive PDF created with LiveCycle Designer?

Hi,
Only if the form has been Reader Enabled before it is sent out to the user with Reader.
There are two ways of Reader Enabling the form. One using Acrobat Standard v9 or Acrobat Professional v8 (both have license restrictions). The other is to use LC Reader Extensions ES2, which is a server product (additional costs).
Some info here:
http://www.assuredynamics.com/index.php/2010/11/using-livecycle-forms-in-acrobat-and-reade r/
A search of the forums for "Reader Extensions" or "Reader Enable" will give more information.
Hope that helps,
Niall
Assure Dynamics

Illustrator saves blank PDFs with information about missing content

I use Illustrator CS6 on OS X 10.8. Yesterday I noticed that my PDFs come out as blank files with the text
This is an Adobe® Illustrator® File that was saved without PDF Content.
To Place or open this file in other applications, it should be re-saved from Adobe Illustrator with the "Create PDF Compatible File" option turned on. This option is in the Illustrator Native Format Options dialog box, which appears when saving an Adobe Illustrator file using the Save As command.
which is actually a description that typically appears in AI files saved without PDF compatibility. It's not document-wise but rather application-wise issue because it happens even if I create a new Document, draw something in the middle of the canvas and save it. Also, all of my existing documents which used to save well before, do that now. Basically, I cannot save correctly a single PDF. But it seems that the exported documents must contain the data because they have different sizes based on the content.
There's no problem with saving in AI format. I hope that's enough information necessary for someone smart to diagnose this problem because I start to be desperate
Do you have any idea? Thank you.

Oh, my friend just recommended me to erase cache and it worked! :-) I erased folders ~/Library/Caches/com.adobe.Illustrator and ~/Library/Saved Application State/com.adobe.Illustrator.savedState and one of them did the trick :-)

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