Font mask question

hi
im using a hollow font for a logo, so the main font color
only colours the
edges...
i can give the text color by placing it over a layer of the
chosen color,
but of course the rectangle of color shows beyond the font...
is there a way to mask or hide this area so only the layer
behind the font
shows?
thanks

Mark,
Here is one way to do this - usually as soon as I post an
answer like
this, Linda, Stephane or the like will chime in and with a
few clicks
get the same effect. :)
So here is one way to do it:
1. Select font - type.
2. Select the word(s) and do a copy and paste to create an
identical
version.
3. Select the copy and go to Modify > Flatten Selection
4. Select the Bucket tool and pick the color you wish for the
fill.
5. Make sure the Paint Bucket Tool options has 75 (or so) for
Tolerance.
6. click on the areas you want to fill a couple times each so
the color
will spread a bit past the borders.
7. Select the original text bring it to the front and
position over the
Flattened selection
One draw back to this technique is that you have to redo all
of the
above if you decide to make changes to that text.
alex
Mark wrote:
> hi
>
> im using a hollow font for a logo, so the main font
color only colours the
> edges...
>
> i can give the text color by placing it over a layer of
the chosen color,
> but of course the rectangle of color shows beyond the
font...
>
> is there a way to mask or hide this area so only the
layer behind the font
> shows?
>
> thanks
>
>

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