Forms: avoiding "record changed by another user"

I have a form with a DB block. There is also a DB trigger on the same table, so when an update is performed in the form, the BEFORE UPDATE trigger updates the same row. Of course, when I try to change the same record again, I get "record changed by another user". I know that there is a property somewhere in Forms that will re-synchronise the Form state with the DB state, but I can't find it in the online docs.
Can anyone tell me where to find this property, or what buil-tin to call (if appropriate)?

Hi Chris.
There is no build-in or property do this. You have to select the current data from the database, because the data in your form is not up-to-date.
So what do you have to do.
If your form do not manipulate the fields that the DB-trigger manipulate, simply remove the fields from your form.
Otherwise, if you need the field in your form you must get the newest value from the DB, because it has changed. It make sence.
BR Claus T. Rasmussen
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chris Webster:
I have a form with a DB block. There is also a DB trigger on the same table, so when an update is performed in the form, the BEFORE UPDATE trigger updates the same row. Of course, when I try to change the same record again, I get "record changed by another user". I know that there is a property somewhere in Forms that will re-synchronise the Form state with the DB state, but I can't find it in the online docs.
Can anyone tell me where to find this property, or what buil-tin to call (if appropriate)?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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