Four Camera Multi Cam Edit

Is it possible to have a four cam multicam edit on final cut pro on a macbook pro using a firewire 400 drive with the prores HQ codec?

I chose that codec as that's the one I've seen editors at work use.
But do they or you know why you are making that choice. That's what I'm trying to emphasize. Screenwriters choose specific words to convey what the story is about. Directors interpret the script into a visual story through camera lens, framing, depth of field etc. Editors make creative choices based on emotion and performance.
These are all choices for a specific reason to tell a story. A wide shot says something different about a story than a close up. If ProRes HQ is wide shot and ProRes LT is a close up. They have different meanings.
It's all a learning experience.
This is a learning experience for all of us. Steven Spielberg is still learning.
I hope this will help you look more closely at the choices you make. Good Luck on your journey!

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