FRM - 41105 You Cannot query records without a saved parent record

I have 3 data blocks. The contro data block have document type and document number if we come to new record(I have written execute query for both header and detail part) the header block will show the detail of the documnet header(Header Details) and detail block will show the detail part.
But my problem is when new record instance only the header block is querying and detail block is not querying and giving an error message(*FRM - 41105 You Cannot query records without a saved parent record*)!!
Plz help me!!
Thanks in advance,

yea header tables PK is refered in the details table.
and i have master record created already and have the detail record for those master records in the table.
i want to query the detail record related to that master when we select a document number and document code in the control block.
Its querying the master detail relevent to that header and giving this error messge while quering the detail record..

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Hello!
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I have a Parent-Detail-Relationship. At the Detail-Block a "When-create-record" sets some default values on the Detail-Block.
I got error "FRM-41106 You cannot create records without a parent record" when the Parent-Block executes a execute_query.
I debuged the problem an found out, that the error appears in the standard-programunit "Clear_All_Master_Details".
The error appears, when the code is deleting the detail-block "code: Clear_Block(NO_VALIDATE)".
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Error appear here----> Clear_Block(NO_VALIDATE);
IF :System.Block_Status <> 'NEW' THEN
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END IF;
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Thx in advance,
Wolfgang

Wolfgang,
To be honest, I've always done this kind of thing in the Pre-Inse rt or Pre-Upda te triggers. Why is it so important for the user to see the value of these field BEFORE the IN SERT or UPDAT E? Once the record is commited, they will see these values in your form. In my experience - users are typically satisfied with this approach. If your users are not OK with this approach, perhaps you could us a When-Validate-Record trigger instead of the When-Create-Record trigger.
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FRM-41051: You cannot create records here

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Location ------
EMP no -------------
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